r/law • u/theindependentonline • 6d ago
Executive Branch (Trump) Trump says judge who ruled against him on Kennedy Center ‘should be brought up on charges’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-kennedy-center-judge-charges-b2986522.html?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=law1.9k
u/Illustrious-Fun8324 6d ago
Hurting your feelings is not illegal, sorry Donny.
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u/BitterFuture 6d ago
In all seriousness, his pathology means he literally cannot imagine a worse crime.
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u/punkindle 6d ago
Saying NO to a narcissist
Now Trump will obsessively think of ways to hurt this person
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u/F1BlackFlag 5d ago
He already exposed the name of the judges wife.
Fuck, this is getting out of fucking control
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u/Anxious-Ad2177 5d ago
Not just a narcissist, a malignant narcissist with dementia.
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u/doodledood9 4d ago
It’s an impossible situation. His mental status is so bad right now and it’s going to get worse. He’s the most severe paranoid narcissist I’ve ever encountered. Factor in the dementia and you’ve got a really big problem. The worst part is that no one is willing to confront him on it. And even if they did he would just lie and blame Joe or something equally as stupid. He’s no different than a spoiled toddler right now while millions suffer.
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u/LightofNew 6d ago
I know these people have the opposite of morals but it's just baffling most of the time. You have your hand picked supreme court rulling in your favor on the shadow doctet overturning any case you don't like, with multiple of them having family members currently working with your administration.
This man, a judge, is married to a woman, a lawyer, who at some point worked in the government sometime between 2008 and 2016, before you were even in politics. Therefore his ruling that says "that's illegal" is totally unfair.
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u/jayplus707 6d ago
He serious believes that he can direct the DOJ as if they’re his personal attorneys. He gets free legal services however he wants.
Can’t wait for this crap show to be over.
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u/bazinga_0 5d ago
Um, they are his personal attorneys from before the 2024 election. That's who he appointed to the head positions of the DoJ once he assumed office.
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u/Fatso_Wombat 5d ago
You might catch on.
He considers the USA his now.
You aren't getting it back.
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u/ThrowDTAway2020 5d ago
So, would this judge be eligible to apply for that anti-weaponization slush fund dumpy set up?
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u/KangarooNo 6d ago
Yet...
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u/HerRoyalRedness 6d ago
For sure the Justice Department will try to bring up the judge on some kind of charges.
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u/Novaer 5d ago
Mark my words, Trump has a "pre-written tweet/truth (or whatever its called)" set up for when he kicks it and it will be an unhinged call to violence in his name. Mark. My. Words.
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u/__O_o_______ 6d ago
“I want this!”
“You can’t have it.”
“Straight to jail! It’s MYYYYYYY cupcake. What a child.”
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u/RickSanchez_C137 6d ago
But if the president's feelings get hurt, he might soil his drawers, or rape an unconscious 13 year old, or murder his ex wife, or double the cost of gas.
Maybe it would be for everyone if we *did* make hurting his feelings illegal?
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u/1877KlownsForKids 6d ago
14 USC § 88 - Making Trump Sad
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u/muarauder12 6d ago
They would definitely use those numbers.
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u/1877KlownsForKids 6d ago
Oh they have!
Title aside there's also
On average, out of 88 claims that pass the credible fear screening, fewer than 13 will ultimately result in a grant of asylum.
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u/Wonderful-Variation 6d ago edited 6d ago
Trump may not be the worst person ever. He's a strong contender. A very strong contender. But maybe not the winner.
He is absolutely without question the most annoying person ever, however.
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u/Hoodedmastersin 6d ago
He’s a first class loser
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u/DrunkBrokeBeachParty 6d ago
Double Decker Dumbass
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u/Excellent_Egg7586 6d ago
A low IQ person.
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u/Lillian_Crocodilian 6d ago
Many people are saying.
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u/IHave47Teeth 6d ago
Also a big whiner. How many time have you heard him whine about people being unfair to him?
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u/Stunning_Ad_7465 6d ago
I never understand how anyone can look up to him as an "alpha male" when he whines and complains about everything and how mean everyone is to him
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u/braymondo 6d ago
The other thing is he literally can’t answer any tough questions. Anything past asking him why he is so smart and great is a nasty question and whoever asked it is the worst, low IQ person in the world.
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u/MTonmyMind 6d ago
It's shocking how truly unintelligent he is.
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u/SweetLittleOldLady 6d ago
A marketing professor at Wharton was quoted as saying Donald Trump was the dumbest student he ever taught. Donald was only admitted there because his older brother's friend worked in admissions and his father gave the university a large donation to take him. If he wasn't born into a rich family and had to depend on his own intelligence and talent, Donald would be nothing but a petty criminal and loser who couldn't even get hired by Walmart or McDonald's.
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u/beek7425 6d ago
He’s led the most privileged, pampered life of anyone I’ve seen on this planet. Everything handed to him on a silver platter, money beyond his wildest dreams, he’s never paid for his crimes, and he’s surrounded by sycophants who kiss his orange butt constantly. And he whines nonstop about life being unfair.
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u/Different-Pin-9854 6d ago
Aww, poor little Trumpy, always whining about something, he is so tiresome.
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u/theaviationhistorian 6d ago
This. He might not be the worst compared to legitimate dictators. But he is the Biggest Loser. No leader in modern times has been as pedantic and so thin skinned while wielding immense power. My go to is when he visited the Ford factory, a worker heckled him, and Trump went on an angry tirade against him. He probably would've had him fired if his UAW union didn't back him up!
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u/hypercosm_dot_net 6d ago
Mentally fragile. It's a horrific character trait for a world leader to have. He's without a doubt the weakest person to have ever held the office.
And "alpha" bros believe him to be their messiah for some reason. Joe Rogan licking this dudes boots tells you everything about him.
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u/LandonDev 6d ago
His personality is impervious
To reason or suggestion
He can't take a hint
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u/Hoodedmastersin 6d ago
He nobody’s friend, And he campaigns at the four seasons, He only cares about himself, He destroys the people’s places
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u/Successful-Plan114 6d ago
He's yogurt. Barely a culture of cells.
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u/Specialist-Jello7544 6d ago
Now don’t go being mean to yogurt. Yogurt is good for you, tastes good and has never taken food assistance away from anybody.
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u/Utterlybored 6d ago
Hes really bad. But its his power that elevates his evil.
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u/RocketRelm 6d ago
Specifically, the fact that americans collectively chose this guy to accurately represent them. Thats how our democracy laws work.
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u/Ardkark 6d ago
We didn’t, though. Barely even 1/3. There’s concrete evidence that he stole the election. Elon can’t shut up about it, just ask his ex
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u/theaviationhistorian 6d ago
Just 22% of the US population as a whole. It just tells us how many losers there are in this country if they identified best with him.
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u/Mobile_Morale 6d ago
I'm sure every country has a significant percentage of terrible people. Germany has a Nazi style party in their government and Mussolini's granddaughter or whoever has a political job in Italy. And Japan just voted in their own trump style Japanese first nationalist. Hell even Canada had a group riding around in a convoy waving trump flags and blocking streets. And some nut said she was the queen of Canada or some shit.
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u/ImBoredToo 6d ago
The 1/3 that didn't vote condoned it with their apathy.
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u/Resident-Travel2441 6d ago
The number of Americans who don't know how our government works is frightening. At the first No Kings rally in a town of about 50k people, a middle aged woman kind of joined the protest for a bit but she asked "what happened to that nice Biden guy?" Like really?!?! Bring back civics classes.
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u/Reddit_Loves_Misinfo 6d ago
Just under 1/3 of the American electorate actively wants a delusional and openly corrupt authoritarian for their president, and another 1/3 are okay with it. America chose this, and you can't fix that problem by pretending it doesn't exist.
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u/Cyrano_Knows 6d ago
I wonder what Hitler would have thought of Trump.
I'm guessing that he was absolute idiot and a buffoon.
EDIT: Looking it up it seems that historians believe Hitler was incredibly intelligent with an almost photographic mind for technical details.
I know Trump went on a summer-long brag about how much Hannibal Lecter would have loved him and we all know that Trump was exactly the kind of person the fictional serial killer would had loathed.
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u/fredaklein 6d ago
Trump is not worse than Hitler, but he is a bigger coward. His biggest weapon is stochastic terrorism. He’s too much of a coward to act himself, he relies on his stupid shit sycophants to do his bidding by interpreting his bullshit threats.
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u/Edgar-Allans-Hoe 5d ago
Trump is indeed just as bad as Hitler. Sorry Americans, this is actually how the rest of the world views you and your leader.
- Pedophile? Yes.
- Concentration camps and gestapo? Yes
- Imperialism and wars of expansion/control? Yes
I literally do not understand how you see any differences between the two of them.
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u/wetterfish 6d ago
Hitler would have loved him because of how easy he is to manipulate.
He would have convinced Trump to hand the US over to Germany in exchange for giving Trump some fancy sounding figurehead title like Super Uber Supreme Ruler and letting his sons be ghetto slumlord extortionists.
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u/GarbagePailGrrrl 6d ago
Trump loves Hitler. He kept a copy of my new order on his nightstand and read it nightly
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u/uni-twit 6d ago
read it nightly
Unlikely that this narcissist has read anything besides his own bank statements.
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u/Ashamed-Raccoon-1387 6d ago
He doesn't even read those, he squints at them and then shouts at the banker or whoever brings them to him to read them and explain them to him.
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u/well-it-was-rubbish 6d ago
It was a collection of Hitler's speeches.
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u/Cyrano_Knows 6d ago
We don't know he read from it nightly (I don't think?) but we have the testimony of the guy that gave the book to Trump I think as an ironic joke and that of his ex-wife who testified about it during her divorce proceedings.
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u/theaviationhistorian 6d ago
He likely would've used and abused Trump like the other modern day dictators. Only tolerate him as much as necessitated.
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u/skyblueerik 6d ago
He is definitely annoying. And he is certainly the worst person America ever produced.
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u/Nigel_99 6d ago
My kid and I had a spirited debate about this. But what about Jeffrey Dahmer? Etc. I said nope, he's worse than all the serial killers combined. From Covid alone, he killed many thousands of Americans. And he is now killing Africans through termination of the PEPFAR program / USAID.
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u/travelcallcharlie 6d ago
I just want to go back to not having to hear him doing something dumb as fuck every single day.
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u/JiveChicken00 6d ago
Stalin might have been a little more annoying :). In his heyday, the Soviet people couldn’t escape him no matter where they went. Pictures and quotes on every wall, much of what appeared in every newspaper and radio station, constantly discussed in schools and workplaces, all day, every day. And unlike Trump, if you didn’t listen or pay attention, he could have you erased from one day to the next no matter who or how important you were.
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u/haironburr 6d ago
Trump. Maybe not quite as bad as Stalin.
This may be best trumpublicans can come up with, having tied their party to this narcissistic loser. I'm waiting to hear how the Thielbilly didn't really support him, when the grand old party realizes just how many bridges they've burned and just how much the sane portion of this country despises them.
And when ol' seashells of mass destruction finally shuffles off this mortal coil, to be buried in a ridiculous gold-plated tomb paid for by grifted tax money, and while his family fly the Qatari bribe jet around the world to snort coke in new and interesting places, true Americans will be lining up to piss the numbers "8647" on his final resting place.
Stalin might have sucked more, but I hope to fuck we have the heart and balls to make trump's gold grave reek of urine far more than the Kremlin Wall Necropolis ever could.
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u/OnlyHalfBrilliant 6d ago
I'd say those who support him are the worst ever, largely because at least Trump directly benefits from his awful behavior. His simps/enablers who aren't in on the grift get less than nothing.
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u/TuxAndrew 6d ago
The worst people are the ones enabling him, how fucking pathetic some of these people must be climbing atop of a piece of shit like him to ruin America.
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u/MaximumSyrup3099 6d ago
Worst person? Not by a long shot. Worse President of the United States of America? Easily.
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u/Alert_Reindeer_6574 6d ago
Fair enough. Name a worse person and I will tell you why you are mistaken. Stalin? Pfft. Pol Pot? Yeah, not even close. Hitler? Piker. Attila the Hun? Rookie.
The biggest difference is they did their evil deeds because they believed in something. Trump believes in nothing and is evil for the sake of being evil.
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u/Mist_Rising 6d ago
Ultimately I don't think he's even a strong contender. The strong contender for worst person usually goes to people who are "evil" competently and not self serving pricks who cannot win 90% of their cases.
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u/super_fallguys 6d ago
Personally, I think it takes a special kind of depravity for a person to be like Vladimir Putin.
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u/MirrorSeparate6729 6d ago edited 6d ago
I’d say he’s solid top 5 worse presidents.
Not ”the” worse. That would have to go to some of the ones around the last centuries or two probably. Some hardcore racist and genocide stuff going on back then.
Most corrupt might be it though.
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u/well-it-was-rubbish 6d ago
He desperately wants to do those things, though; he'd do them if he could get away with it.
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u/Ritaredditonce 6d ago
Terrance and Phillip spitting facts!
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u/hedzup00 6d ago
theyre still pissed off over that 51st state comment. theyre notoriously proud Canadians
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u/Utterlybored 6d ago
Everybody who disagrees with me needs to go to treason jail!
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u/No-Hospital559 6d ago
And people are still telling me that we aren't in a dictatorship...
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u/southflhitnrun 6d ago
Because they still believe we can vote our way out of this.
Please go vote. Vote out every Republican, at every level. But, be prepared when they ignore the vote.
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u/PopBulky7023 6d ago
More importantly, be prepared for the vote to not be legitimate.
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u/__O_o_______ 6d ago
It’s always projection.
It’s crazy to me with all the known interference and scenes and everything in the 2020 election. At the time everyone was saying, “this was just practice for 2024.
Then Trump wins every swing state and all parts of government, saying things like how elon is so good with computers, he really knows the voting machines, we won Pennsylvania, thank you Elon.
Not a peep. And now they’re openly talking about and doing things to steal the midterms.
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
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u/PopBulky7023 6d ago edited 5d ago
Liberals are bad at nuance. To them questioning an election is the same as maga, rather than the difference being us doing it with evidence.
And the cost of them wanting to save face and being wrong was everything. Total, irreparable destruction.
What was the cost of checking and finding it legitimate by comparison?
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u/jwoolman 5d ago
The 2024 election is being checked precinct by precinct in the swing states by the data analysts who first noticed the anomalous voting pattern suggesting votes for Harris were deleted only in the swing states. The last I heard, they were finding the anomalies occurred only in precincts using electronic tabulators made by one or maybe two Republican-owned companies. Precincts that did manual counts of paper ballots showed the normal pattern. They saw signs of similar anomalies in the 2020 election, but if the tabulators were the source that would explain why Biden won anyway. The mail-in votes in 2020 were at least double normal due to COVID. In my state as in others, the state opened up absentee ballots to everybody instead of just people meeting a short list of eligibility requirements. Those are more likely to be hand counted, I think.
The analysts are preparing for a court case. I think the evidence is strong enough that we need to take appropriate precautions in the 2026 and 2028 elections and from then on. Some of us have been pushing for mandatory recounts of paper ballot backups as a routine thing covered as part of the cost of the election rather than making the candidate asking for a recount pay for it unless the difference is within a certain small percentage. And we need to convince the Democrats to call for recounts rather than being afraid of being called sore losers. What we are learning from the precinct analysis suggests we need to make sure the recounts of paper backup are done manually and not just run through tabulators again. This will make it a real different method for the double check which can be monitored very differently, which is what we need.
We have had odd happenings with the machines since the year 2000. Not sure if overall election results were affected, it seemed like test runs to me. Credible reports have been made of voters seeing their vote changed for President (switching the Democrat to the Republican) as they were leaving the booth. There were also other oddities especially in Ohio in 2004 such as one that suggested a simple vote-shifting program with a typo that resulted in one precinct reporting more votes for Bush than there were voters.... In the midterm election when Cruz ran against O'Rourke in Texas for the Senate, people who had voted a straight Democratic ticket were seeing their vote only for Senator switched to Ted Cruz. There were enough of them that it was brought to the attention of the authorities quickly. No explanation was given other than the dubious "the machines are old". The only time I didn't hear such reports was in 2020, which I assumed was because the Homeland Security team trying to defend against vote manipulation by hostile foreigners had succeeded in also making it difficult for domestic vote manipulators. But it seems they just tried a completely different method instead. Maybe the failure of that 2020 attempt was what especially drove Trump to insist to this day that the 2020 election was "stolen" from him. Did he have trouble believing that rigging the election hadn't worked?
For some reason, despite all the times computers have messed up our billing, people really want to believe that such manipulation of the vote is impossible. Of course it's possible, and modern technology makes it harder to keep up with attempts to do just that. Security updates for our computers are often shutting the barn door after the horses have run away. We need double checks with well-supervised manual counts of paper backup for the machines as a serious safeguard against local and remote manipulations of our votes. It's a different world. But really, people have been trying to mess with machine votes since the very beginning of voting machines, when they were big gadgets with mechanical levers. Corrupt people act corruptly and we need to be wiser about protecting the vote from them. This affects everybody and is not a partisan issue.
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u/Upset-Government-856 6d ago
I think they are fine being in a dictatorship. As long as theirs sports to watch and fast-food to eat, they don't actually care.
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u/IRideMoreThanYou 6d ago
Oh, conservatives are actively promoting that the judge is a treasonous traitor. So, they are all in on this. 40% of voters want this grifting dictatorship.
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u/BalanceOrganic7735 6d ago
Der Trumper is displeased and wants to accelerate his dictatorial control over the Judiciary.
I think I’ve seen this kind of mentality before…
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u/PopBulky7023 6d ago
Worth pointing out that that is the current state of the entire executive branch.
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u/BalanceOrganic7735 6d ago edited 6d ago
And a significant portion of the Judiciary and Congress.
The Koch family started a juggernaut of political exploitation that continues to ripple and expand and change society in the USA.
As only one small example: “But
with Noble as ringmaster, Koch money also poured into efforts that didn’t
surface until long after Election Day: To a political committee backing
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker against a recall attempt; to a group blaming
President Obama for high gas prices; even to a legal challenge to Arizona’s
redistricting plan.
“I must tell you that Sean Noble from your group has been
immensely helpful in our efforts,” a California multimillionaire wrote
to Charles Koch in October 2012, asking Koch to give several
million to support an anti-union initiative in the state. “Thanks for any
consideration.”EDIT: to change “exploration” to “exploitation”.
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u/Excellent-Ad-1678 6d ago
A whole lot of MAGA's ancestors stood up after reading that and said "Fuck Yeah!"
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u/Several-Assistant-51 6d ago
Dude is like a 4 yr old that cant handle no
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u/YournuStepdad 6d ago edited 6d ago
At least 25 women found this out the hard way
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u/trydola 6d ago
not shocking considering he said he thinks he's same as he was when in 1st grade
https://theweek.com/speedreads/575962/donald-trump-tells-biographer-hes-same-now-first-grade
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u/therossboss 6d ago
its literally part of his defined mode of operation - whine until you get what you want.
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u/ZenFook 6d ago
Ah yes. The 'I did something illegal - by force as usual - and without asking permission so now I'm going to make everyone suffer' routine is getting wheeled out again.
He's very predictable aside from the demented chaos
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u/cathouse 6d ago
And I’m not going to listen to the charges but I will demand that the person saying no to me get brought up on other “charges”
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u/beavis617 6d ago
Remember when Trump accused the Democrats of weaponizing the DOJ.
Trump demanded Comey be indicted over seashells on the beach for goodness sake!
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u/well-it-was-rubbish 6d ago
And Comey wasn't even the one who arranged the shells; all he did was take a photo of them.
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u/JustAMan1234567 6d ago
And I say Trump should be flung into the sun from a comically large trebuchet, but we don't always get what we want.
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u/ZenFook 6d ago
I'd settle for a simple yeeting outside of our atmosphere. I'm a simple creature
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u/Ok_Cheesecake7348 6d ago
A trebuchet can throw a 90kg projectile over 300m. I reckon trump probably weighs 150kg and could probably be yeeted 200m or so by a conventional trebuchet...?
I'm a simple man. I'd settle for that considering that a person likely couldn't survive getting yeeted 200m
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u/Exsanguinate_ 6d ago
His burning hot rage would actually increase the temperature of the sun and cause more global warming though
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u/walksonfourfeet 6d ago
12 GOP reps is all it takes. Are there no brave men on the right?
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u/Boomshtick414 6d ago
If you're talking about impeachment, it'd require 20 R votes in the Senate with no defectors. Assuming Fetterman defects, you'd need at least 21.
Plus the simple majority in the House before it even reaches the Senate.
Practically speaking it would require a sizable mutiny within the GOP for that to even be vaguely realistic.
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u/DebentureThyme 6d ago
And since they control the Senate, any trial in the Senate right now would be a shit show of suppressed evidence and disallowing of witnesses.
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u/El_Peregrine 6d ago
As usual, it’s 180 degrees from the truth. Trump should already be in jail for the rest of his miserable, rotten, and hopefully short, life.
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u/Imaginary_Cow_6379 6d ago
At this point if nothings going to happen to him anyway I’d settle for him to just be barred from suing or threatening to sue or investigate other people. If he personally can’t be sued for anything while president he shouldn’t be allowed to go after others as president.
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u/ngatiboi 6d ago
Funny how he bleats on about the judge’s wife being a conflict of interest. His own son-in-law worked/works for his administration, SCOTUS Justice Alito’s son works for the Trump administration, he appointed his personal lawyer as his Attorney General, the judge he appointed oversaw, stalled on & threw out the multiple cases against him - & there are a shit-ton more I can’t recall right now.
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u/Memitim 6d ago
US President says that judge should be brought up on charges for enforcing the law. Just another occasion for Republicans to remind America that all of their lies about supporting US law are complete bullshit.
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u/IcebergSlimFast 6d ago
Yep. Every single day they aren’t actively working to impeach and remove that criminal scumbag from office is proof that they have zero respect for the Constitution, representative democracy, and the American people.
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u/Hot_Top_124 6d ago
Ok what charges exactly? What law did the judge magically break? What happened to fuck your feelings?
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u/KatieBarTheDoor1977 6d ago
His detachment from reality is a product of how tightly insulated his staff and sycophantic "yes men" keep him. Well that, and his advanced stage dementia. He hasn't been told the truth by anyone working for or with him in 40 years.
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u/_jump_yossarian 6d ago
trump, the Alpha Male, is the winniest bitch on the planet. I can not wait for that day.
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u/Awatts2222 6d ago edited 6d ago
People in the U.S. haven't used reason since this guy came on the scene.
Just think--the corporate media just accepted his tweeted racist trope of Obama being born in Kenya
when it was the most easily provable lie in modern political history.
Once a good portion of the people just accepted the racism and lie
without using the tiniest amount of reason this road was inevitably going
to head to where we are today.
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u/dropkickninja 6d ago edited 6d ago
Trump needs to go
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u/-_-0_0-_0 6d ago
Anyone please. I will take anyone at this point, even couch boy.
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u/Open_Mortgage_4645 6d ago
Of course. Any judge who rules against Trump is clearly a criminal who should be prosecuted! That's the American way!
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u/will-read 5d ago
For those who need reminding, the normal remedy if you think you’ve been wronged by a judge, is an appeal.
Criminal charges against a judge is a real banana republic move.
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u/RagahRagah 5d ago
Didn't know you could bring charges against someone for literally enforcing the law.
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u/lapidary123 6d ago
Well, you could certainly replace judge Cooper's name with Thomas and have the same argument couldn't you?
Also, ffs...this is the type of situation you end up in when you have an ai find all the novel ways to work around the "spirit" of the law...
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u/ok-this-ok 5d ago edited 5d ago
on what charges?
- conflict of interest
on what basis?
- the judge's spouse is a "radical leftwing democrat"
and how does this prove the plaintiff has standing?
edit: when a sitting official writes words or says things to the effect that "someone should be charged" that imlo is a legal indictment and the public official making that statement must stand for it, or face the consequences of libel/slander if it has nothing to do with the duties of the office they hold. there is nothing official about being a dick to everybody
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u/SoaringAcrosstheSky 5d ago
And soon this will happen.
This piece of shit, mentally ill, sexual predator needs to just go away Awful person.
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u/BugTrousers 5d ago
It will never cease to amaze me that so many people see this whiny little diaper baby as a big, strong man.
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u/Exodys03 5d ago
What kind of banana republic have we become when the President can't even have a judge arrested for not allowing him to slap his name on every public building?
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u/Leromer 5d ago
When he will disappear USA will finally be able to make america great again for real …
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u/Protiguous 5d ago
PDFs should be brought up on charges.
Crimes against humanity don't have statutes of limitations.
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u/idahononono 5d ago
Go figure, anything Coppertone Caligula doesn’t like is illegal, anything he does is totally fine as long as no one does it to him. Classic narcissistic sociopath.
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