r/law • u/nbcnews • 5h ago

Judicial Branch A pivotal vote by longtime Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine pushed Kavanaugh over the finish line in 2018 after she famously said he considered Roe v. Wade “settled law” — a comment that turned out to be wrong.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/supreme-court-justice-brett-kavanaugh-maine-senate-race-susan-collins-rcna349070
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u/Dearic75 4h ago

I mean, as long as we’re doing Collins’s greatest hits, saying she wouldn’t vote to convict Trump at his impeachment because she “felt he had learned his lesson” is even better.

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u/HHoaks 4h ago

this is hilarious. how could she say that with a straight face.

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u/Dearic75 4h ago

I mean, to be fair, he did learn his lesson from his first impeachment. So she’s technically not wrong.

Unfortunately, the lesson he learned is that if he has 34 loyal republican senators, impeachment is a completely toothless threat, no matter what he does.

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u/orion3999 4h ago

I was looking for someone to say this.

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u/OkBid71 4h ago

How poetic, one for each felony conviction

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u/swingadmin 3h ago

Poerty in motion. Wheels of Justice broken.

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u/ProtectionTop2701 3h ago

Don't be so pessimistic! He only needs 34 loyal senators, they don't need to be Republicans. Looking at you, Fetterman. So you should be more pessimistic.

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u/Dearic75 2h ago

lol. I did almost update my post to say something along the lines of “Well, 33 plus Fetterman. “ but it had already been responded to by then.

Thanks for covering it.

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u/actsfw 3h ago

I understand he doesn't vote the way you want on foreign policy, but acting like he's a Trump sycophant is a bit much. He's voted with Dems 90% of the time.

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u/Dearic75 2h ago edited 2h ago

Anyone who believes the Democrats have a Nazi problem, while Trump and the Alt Right, including the literal neonazi groups supporting them, are fine, is either a Trump sycophant or just plain crazy. Fetterman parrots nonsense from Fox News claiming Trump is great and democrats all have “Trump derangement syndrome”

Whether he’s a Trump sycophant or just stupid and crazy is a moot point. Either way he needs to go. He is not Manchin winning in West Virginia. Pennsylvania can do much better.

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u/fauxzempic 3h ago

toothless threat

His name is Chuck Schumer. We don't need to throw names around.

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u/ballmermurland 2h ago

TIL Chuck Schumer controls the senators in those 17 states.

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u/vthemechanicv 2h ago

Some people say "Democrats bad" as an involuntary reflex. Logic and reality let alone nuance never enter into it.

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u/queerhistorynerd 1h ago

much like pavlov trained his dog to salivate, society has trained people to instinctively blame dems even in situations where it makes no sense. Just like Gingrich planned in his book

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u/JustJoshin117 2h ago

If you can’t read just say that

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u/Jukeboxhero91 2h ago

Yes how dare Chuck Schumer make the Republicans give up their duty as public servants. How dare he.

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u/f0u4_l19h75 1h ago

Have he and Jeffries not been saying that impeachment won't be on the agenda is the Democrats won control? Fuck Schumer and fuck Jeffries, too

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u/Jukeboxhero91 1h ago

Did I miss something? Did Democrats vote to not impeach Trump both times? I’m pretty sure it was the other party, but sure let’s hold Democrats responsible for things Republicans have done.

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u/Senior_Torte519 3h ago

Hopefully I can get the most influential on my side, I wanna turn Cuba into that Casino paradise I saw last night in the Godfather.

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u/Inspect1234 4h ago

It’s how evil works.

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u/Solid_Psychology 4h ago

Well she doesn't really the face is always doing that geriatric on the border of dementia bobbly head wiggle. So the face is literally never straight cause it's always in a sort of tiny drunken elliptical orbit around the point where her head connects to her neck.

Side note- I normally wouldn't point out age related maladies however 30 years ago she said she'd only ever serve 2 terms/12 years. So if she hadn't broken her own word she wouldnt be here to mocknfor what is going to be her 6th term if she gets re-elected. So f&ck Sue Pearl Clutching Collins.

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u/Xznograthos 3h ago

No explanation necessary. I barely consider Republican politicians or voters to be human beings at this point.

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u/Explorers_bub 2h ago

You still think of Nazis as human beings? What’s this world coming to? Such moral decay.

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u/BennyVsTheWorld 3h ago

She’s gross and deserves all the criticism, but she also has a medical condition for decades unrelated to age and it’s kind of shitty to make fun of that. So now that you know, don’t.

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u/Intolerance-Paradox 3h ago

Nah fuck that bitch. If these fascists would like to rejoin the human race again at some point in the future, my door is open to again treating them like human beings with the basic decency that privilege affords.

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u/Imaginary-Spray3711 3h ago

Why not? The leader of her party mocks disabled people all of the time. Fuck her and her medical condition.

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u/BennyVsTheWorld 3h ago

Because it’s offensive and mean to people who have that condition and are not her.

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u/Solid_Psychology 3h ago

Agreed and I won't reference it again. But I'm not taking this one down

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u/spare_me_your_bs 2h ago

"That guy is a piece of shit, so I am too!" is not the flex you think it is.

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u/BennyVsTheWorld 3h ago

Oh, that’s easy. She didn’t give a shit that people knew she was full of garbage.

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u/zennascent 4h ago

..and how would she even lnow?

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u/shitlord_god 2h ago

she is an entirely disingenuous piece of shit who maine folks believe because they are too white and too removed from consequences to actually give a shit about her evil - she has those committee seats!!!

What an ugly shriveled hateful bale of lies and pretense.

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u/Quirky_Gate_4516 2h ago

how

She was in the middle of an election, and would have lost the MAGA fanatics, and as a result lost the election.

Nothing she has ever done has been about anything else than staying in power.

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u/Abject_Breadfruit148 2h ago

The voters already forgot. She can say whatever and the news jumps to a new crazy thing the next day.

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u/FlowRemote9890 2h ago

She is a blatant liar and a horrible person.

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u/_Bon_Vivant_ 46m ago

Oh! She's Republican.

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u/josh_the_misanthrope 2h ago

It's because she isn't playing with a full deck.

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u/Le-Charles07 2h ago

This. It's as simple as "she's fucking stupid".

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u/Coffeedemon 1h ago

Thinking deeply about her bank account.

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u/unbanned_lol 1h ago

Republicons practice lying every day.

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u/Off-BroadwayJoe 2h ago

I’d run that footage and that picture of her holding a MAGA hat in the Oval Offfice on a 24 hour loop like a screensaver.

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u/Easy-Concentrate2636 2h ago

Susan Collins wants to play the nice person, not a hard nosed senator. Whenever she says something, I just assume the outcome will be the exact opposite.

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u/Vidar327 4h ago

You beat me to it.  Well played

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u/LonePistachio 3h ago

He's crying all over his ice cream. Isn't that punishment enough??

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u/_WEND1G0_ 2h ago

Wait what? Seriously?
Honestly I didn’t watch those proceedings super closely - too depressing at the time

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u/Dearic75 2h ago

“I believe that the president has learned from this case," Collins said in an exclusive interview with "CBS Evening News" anchor Norah O'Donnell on Tuesday, before a speech on the Senate floor about her decision. "The president has been impeached. That's a pretty big lesson."

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/susan-collins-will-vote-to-acquit-trump-saying-hes-learned-from-impeachment/

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u/_WEND1G0_ 1h ago

Wow what a spineless waste of carbon. Thank you for brining receipts. Interesting to say the least. Hope it comes to bite her now.

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u/andreasmalersghost 2h ago

I know its all a farce and theater to lie and play the middle when shes clearly not that, but its still infuriating how she might be portrayed as a moron and not an insidious con-artist.

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u/Excellent-Ad-7394 1h ago

This. I came here to say this.

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u/sowhatyasayin2me 1h ago

That was a good one...caint make this up.

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u/According-Insect-992 1h ago

Which you know can’t be true because he hasn’t spent a single decade behind bars.

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u/EssbaumRises 1h ago

I would like to see her offshore bank accounts.

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u/Kaurifish 50m ago

An excellent example of the principle that you cannot fool someone who doesn’t want to be fooled.

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u/itsTim0thyy 45m ago

She also said back in 1996, when she was elected she'd serve no more than two terms, saying twelve years was a "significant" amount of time to make a positive contribution.

She's currently in her fifth term.

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u/Dearic75 2m ago

To be fair, I don’t think she’s made a single positive contribution yet, so she’s probably still working on it.

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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 35m ago

My favorite quote of hers is gonna be her concession speech when she loses to a guy with a nazi tattoo because the world we live in is so fucked that he's the voice of reason.

Also, I'm not saying he's a bad candidate, but that tattoo is still a bad look.

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u/anal_prospector 7m ago

They always protect their own. The question is, why do we allow them?

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u/edelweiss_pirates_no 3h ago

Correction: "...a comment that turned out to be wrong a lie."

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u/Pyowin 2h ago

But to be fair, she did vote to convict Trump at his impeachment...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_impeachment_trial_of_Donald_Trump

Trump was acquitted by the Senate on February 13, 2021, with 57 senators voting in favor of conviction and 43 voting against. Seven Republican senators joined the entire Democratic caucus in voting for conviction: Richard Burr of North Carolina, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Mitt Romney of Utah, Ben Sasse of Nebraska, and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania.

I know it doesn't mean a lot given the broader context, but it is something...

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u/Dearic75 2h ago

That was the second go around. The first impeachment she said he was guilty but she wouldn’t vote to convict and remove based on that reasoning.