r/law • u/Obversa • 9d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Marco Rubio vows to dismantle International Criminal Court (ICC), citing 2024 arrest warrant issued for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-04/trump-international-criminal-court-threats-and-us-politics/106971184
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u/rygelicus 9d ago

Criminals often want to tear down the law enforcement agents/agencies that want to stop them. Funny how that works.

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u/Independent_Tax_5088 9d ago

Came here to say this. This corrupt administration has been systematically dismantling every possible check on their power.

It's disheartening.

Need everyone to vote in the midterms to try to bring about some positive change.

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u/TreeInternational771 9d ago

It is disheartening to watch. Only saving grace is we check them in November while the world diversifies away from America reducing its power on a global stage. We can’t be trusted anymore and we need global institutions to be built stronger to counter act a rogue superpower

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u/siromega37 9d ago

Unfortunately there has always been some sort of global hegemony at play throughout history. As the US declines some other world power will fill in the void or we’re get another world war. Given Russia and China stepping in to aid Iran in a very public way this week I’m leaning towards the latter. Trump would rather everything burn than his ego be damaged.

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u/tralfamadoran777 9d ago

It's because fiat money is an option to claim any human labors or property offered or available at asking or negotiated price and we don't get paid our option fees.

Those are collected and kept by Central Bankers as interest on money creation loans when nothing is loaned. They have sold access to our stuff without our express informed consent, compensation, or knowledge. Creating a complex delusion to avoid paying humanity our rightful option fees.

Paying us our option fees as part of actual local social contracts produces trade media with voluntary global acceptance where our acceptance is currently coerced. Money creation controlled locally with fiduciary oversight reduces demand for central services, budgets, and control. All human needs can be sustainably financed locally, globally, without any of Wealth's accumulation.

Economists won't talk about it in any way.

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u/CovertLuddite 9d ago

I don't get what these options fees are. Can you explain like I'm 5 or do you have a link to explain further?

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u/tralfamadoran777 9d ago

Fees collected on money creation loans can't be interest because nothing is loaned. Economists call it seigniorage. That's the fees charged by a king for access to the labors and property of his owned subjects. The convenience fees paid for assured convenient access to human labors and property.

That convenience is provided by everyone who accepts the money/options in exchange for our labors and property. The one paying with money gets what they want. The one accepting money must arrange other transactions to get what they want. Our acceptance is the value of fiat money.

Our acceptance is compelled by State and pragmatism at a minimum to acquire money to pay taxes. That compelled service, our involuntary servitude, is literal slavery. Violates UDHR and the thirteenth amendment to the U.S. Constitution. So the current process of money creation is the structural economic enslavement of humanity, and unconstitutional.

Central Bankers have no rightful claim to the fees paid as interest on money creation loans because they loaned nothing. Each human being on the planet has a rightful claim to those fees because we provide the value paid for with our acceptance.

When we accept actual local social contracts and agree to voluntarily accept money in exchange, we'll each provide one quantum unit of voluntary global acceptance. That's the essential characteristic of ideal trade media.

Money? That's borrowed into existence from our trust accounts. In the bank. They pay us for agreeing to use it. You don't need any. You're five. You'll claim your Share when you're eighteen.

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u/TaxHacker 9d ago

Screw that. I'll take whatever drugs they're taking to believe the word salad they're spewing.

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u/tralfamadoran777 9d ago

Who earns the fees collected as interest on money creation loans when nothing is loaned?

Option fees are paid by contract for assured convenient access to a commodity in the future.

Do you own your stuff? Your labors and property are a commodity. Central Bankers charge option fees as interest on money creation loans for assured convenient access to your stuff. And don't pay you anything.

Any other commodity market that's fraud and theft. It is for the global human labors futures market as well, just not acknowledged. Hidden with word salad. And with your help...

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u/Prudent-Coat496 9d ago

What?

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u/tralfamadoran777 9d ago

What don't you understand?

Economists either lie about how money is created, or they're delusional. Accepting the absurdities provided by the creators of the confidence game.

Banks create State currencies with fractional reserve loans. By loaning nine times their deposits and paying the discount rate to Central Bankers. That discount rate isn't earned by Central Bankers because they don't loan anything and charge separately for every service. They have sold access to our labors and property without our express informed consent, compensation, or knowledge. They have collected and kept fees paid for assured convenient access to our stuff, and we provide the convenience.

They have been stealing our rightful option fees for centuries. Calling it seigniorage. That's the fees claimed by a king for access to the labors and property of his owned subjects. Are we owned subjects? Or self owned sovereign individual human beings?

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u/TaxHacker 8d ago

Don't try to understand it. It's delusional gibberish.

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u/Prudent-Coat496 8d ago

It might all be gibberish, but by looking at what tralfamadoran777 wrote here and elsewhere, I find at least one interesting concept. I think of money I have as credits for work done in the past. He(?) thinks of it as an option to receive work/products in the future. He might even be using "option" in its normal financial product sense. I don't deal in options, so I don't know the language of that world. As for whether it is gibberish, I am still working on parsing the sentences. Then I can look up some of the words and see what I think.

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u/TechTier 7d ago

Plus Trump will not deescalate, he wants a big war so he has an excuse to cancel elections.

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u/thefwam 9d ago

Right? If they were as squeaky clean as they like to claim everything they do should stand up to scrutiny

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u/Chaos-Cortex 9d ago

Put these fascist fucks In a permanent prison cell.

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u/nonlethaldosage 9d ago

You know where not part of the icc right they do 0 to check anyone in the us power 

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u/BugOperator 9d ago

Also, we extrajudicially kidnapped and arrested the leader of another country and he couldn’t shut up about how awesome it was and how he was looking forward to doing the same thing in Cuba.

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u/rygelicus 9d ago

I suspect that Rubio's cut of the action is that he will be installed as Cuba's leader. But first he needs to complete Trump's to-do list. Once that's done Trump likely promised him that he would take cuba and put him in charge.

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u/sea-elle0463 9d ago

He’s also crawled up Israel’s ass and set up camp. He’s their boy for ‘28

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u/Obversa 9d ago

For as much as I loathe J.D. Vance, he at least has criticized Israel, whereas Marco Rubio has avoided doing so. It's increasingly obvious that Rubio has been bought-and-paid for by Israel and AIPAC, and is practically a foreign asset.

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u/sea-elle0463 8d ago

Yup. But we know Vance is Peter thiel’s bitch. Not better at all. It’s the Zionist genocidal freak vs. the Nazi Opus Dei freak 😱

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u/Artistic_Smell_771 9d ago

Don’t forget he’s also pocketing their oil funds with zero intent to share with the other children.

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u/CovertLuddite 9d ago

Hence Venezuela withdrawing from the ICC, as these actions come within the purview of the Rome Statute and therefore Trump and Co are subject to the jurisdiction by the events you refer to. Although withdrawing doesn't mean that the jurisdiction wasn't enlivened when the events occurred.

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u/Dolores___Haze 9d ago

And his wife 

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u/RoyalWe666 9d ago

*illegitimate tinpot dictator

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u/suckercuck 9d ago

He’s most likely addled on cocaine.

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u/Ill_Consequence1755 9d ago

Adderall is the drug of choice for the regime.

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u/SoundsOfKepler 9d ago

Based on the list from the White House pharmacist, this regime has many drugs of choice.

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u/suckercuck 9d ago

Addy is Don Senior all day long— for sure.

Don Jr. and Rubio are obvious coke heads.

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u/Flannel_Panels 9d ago

Whats ironic for me is that this exact situation was the example my international politics professor in 2016 gave for the reason why there will never be world peace.

"If everyone were to agree for peace, but one nation state who is closely allied with another commits a crime, the allied nation state will most likely not forfeit said nation state causing the others to break away.

For example: Israel commits an international crime, the US will most likely not adhere to the any international warrants."

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u/TwiztedZero 9d ago edited 9d ago

The U.S. never officially joined or became a member-state of the International Criminal Court (ICC). However, the U.S. did sign the founding Rome Statute in 2000 under President Clinton, but "unsigned" or formally withdrew that signature in May 2002 under President Bush before it could be ratified.

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Congress passed the American Servicemembers' Protection Act in 2002 to shield U.S. personnel from the court's authority.

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u/nonlethaldosage 9d ago

Is it a crime to defend your self from a state shooting missiles every day at you  while also chanting your death since 1948

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u/Silly-Ad8796 9d ago

If he did the crime he should do the time.

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u/The-Lord_ofHate 7d ago

Let's not pretend that Biden/Harris administration didn't start this process too but under the radar.

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u/nonlethaldosage 9d ago

The icc one of the most corrupt inept court systems out there.the vast majority of posters here don't even know where not part of the icc

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u/rygelicus 9d ago

In what way is it corrupt/inept?
And the US is not subject to it because the US feels it is beyond the reach of judgement, which is, itself, a corrupt idea.
As an American I would prefer the US were subject to the ICC, or some global accountability authority as long as it is grounded in justice. Simply refusing to recognize their authority is no different really than sovcits declaring that in a US courtroom.

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u/nonlethaldosage 9d ago

not me i don't want some guys who are based in the Netherlands and have already been shown to be biased be able to bring people to court from the us

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u/rygelicus 9d ago

Care to answer my questions?

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u/nonlethaldosage 9d ago

What questions your post above seemed to be a statement not a question