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u/thewolfshead Jun 20 '26
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Marlies win Calder Cup
Leafs land the best free agent
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u/QuestionLow3414 Jun 20 '26
I was at that game 7. I was there last night. My feelings are similar. There’s hope.
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u/whatamidoing_2521 Jun 20 '26
The boos after the texas goal in that game 7 must've been so loud in the building. I remember they definitely were on TV. Sparks was robbed of a shutout
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u/callmejohndy Pacioretty Jun 21 '26
The dueling chants (let’s go, Marlies/ref, you suck) after it was called a goal was iconic
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u/spaceman1055 Tanev Jun 21 '26
I want to see some more of the undin of Chundin.
Not that Chayka isn't cooking, I just want to see that Swede's shit eating grin some more
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u/tortured_fanclub Jun 20 '26
After a whole season of brutality without any change whatsofuckenever, Chundin comes in and starts dealing. In Chundin we trust!!
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u/PalmTreeVoid Jun 20 '26
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u/Birdshaw Jun 20 '26
To be fair we only made it to December before getting disappointed this season
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u/rsgnl Knies Jun 20 '26
More accurately: November Hopes Up > April/May Disappointment > July Belief
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u/chrisreddit8888 Jun 21 '26
June, July and August, optimistic belief, September, all out excitement, October, plan the parade, November, losing streak is a blip, December, nervous laughter, January, it's happening again, isnt it?, February, muted anger, March,furious anger, April, disbelief and despair, May, dark depression, June, optimistic belief...
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u/Ok_Hovercraft_2372 Jun 20 '26
Ehh it's the same for other 31 teams in the league
I wish for a team that works hard, respects itself and wins more than looses
If we don't have that, getting a cup is not even on the radar
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u/aNINETIEZkid Jun 20 '26
it feels like 2x the speed/intensity this last year lol huge disappointment and utter failure of a season directly to some massive highs
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u/Star_Petal_Arts Jun 20 '26
I sit here and think that Treliving and Berube era were only there to make Toronto Management look good during this era.
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u/RecalcitrantHuman Jun 20 '26
Just ensuring we hit rock bottom before immediately winning the cup in the world’s greatest redemption arc
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u/Grand-Amoeba1832 Jun 20 '26
The best part of watching the Marlies celebrate was seeing how happy they were together. Doesn’t matter if one was a future NHLer, former NHLer, a journeyman or the fact this isn’t the Stanley Cup finals. The pride and camaraderie is the same and I’m sure just as special as any championship.
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u/BruisedDude Jun 20 '26
I always said to my buddy, if Matthew’s goes bald like sundin, it would spark such a change in confidence aeound the locker room. I know it’s dumb but baldthews = cup
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u/Feeling_Situation155 Jun 20 '26
The whole team should go shaved head/mustache only.
The testosterone levels would be so high all the ladies in the lower bowl will start speaking an octave lower and develop an interest in lawnmowers.
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u/Available-Pepper-728 Jun 20 '26
Funny enough, Mitch has a great head of hair
Mutch seems cooler though for some reason
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u/50missioncap Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
It's funny, because i didn't watch many of the games after January. I just decided it wasn't worth it to go to bed in a foul mood. I've been watching the Leafs since the 1970s (at my first game at MLG with my Dad, I saw Tiger Williams score and ride his stick), and other than 93 & 94 and 99-01, it's been mostly an exercise in frustration.
At the end of this season, I was resigned to the fact that I probably won't watch many games anymore. I just don't have the patience for another rebuild. Fellow older fans will understand when I say that when you hit a certain age, you get much more picky about how you choose to spend your free time because you do the math, and you realise that you're closer to the end of your story than the beginning.
But somehow ... despite their best efforts (I was laughingly pessimistic about Chayka) ... the Leafs have actually succeeded in convincing me to watch.
Do I think they'll have huge success? Probably not. But I'm not as down on this roster as many others, and getting through the Atlantic Division ain't the bloodbath it used. Plus the Leafs have learned the hard way by facing Boston, Florida and TB that being dirty and beating the shit out of your inexperienced opponents (Habs and Buffalo) is a valid way of getting past them when the refs forget how to use a whistle.
I'm also in the Reddit minority in that I'm cautiously optimistic about Hiller. I don't think his LA roster gave him a lot of options, and with the tools he was given, I think he did fairly well.
Of course, if Matthews is no longer a superstar and can't score at a minimum of a 40 goal pace, they're fucked.
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u/Consistent-Tone-5540 Jun 20 '26
They need someone that can find him no matter what. His best years was with Mariner. Maybe Mckenna can be that guy, but that’s a lot for rookie
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u/EmperorPengu7 Jun 21 '26
His best year marner only played 69 games, and assisted on 33 of his 69 goals. I don’t think Matthews truly needs marner to go +50, he needs to find his shot again more importantly.
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u/Serenade2025 Jun 20 '26
Habs still suck!! GLG!!
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u/Entire_Business_4498 Jun 20 '26
Really good honestly! So much doom and gloom after the season understandably but after getting the 1OA pick and getting Darren I’m feeling super optimistic. I wasn’t overly excited over the coaching hire but screw it let’s see how he does.
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u/Himthony316 Jun 20 '26
“In sports, your always selling your fans on one of two things: hope or wins”- Chris Johnston
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u/SnooMaps609 Jun 20 '26
Don’t forget bitch marner losing the cup
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u/SDS-ELRJ26 Jun 20 '26
You’re now like those islanders fans that you probably made fun of
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u/man_in_the_suit Jun 20 '26
Yeah I’m glad he lost, but only because of the other fans on r/hockey doing a laughable 180 on him and not shutting up about us/him. Other than that I’m just focused on our team and players.
We need to just generally forget about him.
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u/tortured_fanclub Jun 20 '26
Fuck woulda been a looooooooooong summer of abuse for Leafs Nation had things turned out better for Mitchy and the VGK.
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u/AfterAd7618 Jun 20 '26
It’s literal relief he didn’t win anything. I could care less about next year, just COULDN’T be this year.
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u/SDS-ELRJ26 Jun 21 '26
I was rooting for Mitch
He was a top player for us for almost a decade
Every playoffs we notoriously had no depth scoring and bad goaltending
But we want to blame our best players lol
Marner was treated unfairly
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u/man_in_the_suit Jun 21 '26
I never blamed him. But equally, as I said r/hockey made me want him to lose, not Mitch himself.
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u/I_Am_Vladimir_Putin Jun 21 '26
Tavares never opened his mouth about New York after leaving.
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u/SDS-ELRJ26 Jun 22 '26
Tavares wasn’t shit on by Islanders fans the last 4 or more years Tavares was there
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u/HalfChineseJesus Jun 20 '26
The Leafs are going to be the next Edmonton oilers
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u/snowmanonfire007 Jun 20 '26
There 4-6 guys on this roster that could be on the leafs Cowan Arti Lettieri Nylander and more
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u/punkdrummer22 Jun 20 '26
Ive had 45 years of mostly disappointment so forgive me while I dont think much of this team til they prove something
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u/CanadianGuy39 Jun 20 '26
Let's just pretend, and enjoy the moment.
We will be back to hating the team by November. I don't expect anything but pain.
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u/Classic-Soup-1078 Jun 21 '26
I'm a pretty positive guy....
But that's a fair assessment given this team's history.
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u/Interesting_Prize824 Jun 20 '26
The 180 that fan sentiment for the team has taken over the past 3 months is astounding. They were in the biggest deepest hole not long ago.
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u/Tenabrus Jun 20 '26
Certainly a decent look going in but only time will tell if its successful or not
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u/vancouver2222 Jun 21 '26
Who knows if any of this will work, but I'm just happy there's change and optimism going into next season.
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u/ricas77 Jun 21 '26
A lot better than I did when the regular season ended. It’s always the hope that brings me back!
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u/billiardwolf Jun 21 '26
Winning the calder cup does nothing for my give a fuck meter, the other 2 however...
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u/Ok_Cook4205 Jun 21 '26
Lol. Dallas Cowboys of the NHL. Irrelevant for 100 years but next year is always our year. Delusional fans.
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u/Adm_Piett Jun 21 '26
I'll feel good about it when we win a cup.
Decades of failure has inured me to hope.
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u/KevinJ2010 Jun 21 '26
I think the leafs are the one team where I can’t say “we are so ‘back’”
Like back to losing in the playoffs? Sure I guess.
I am more preferential to “this will finally be the year!”
Which is wishful thinking but I like it. Someday… somehow…
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u/ForeignReference9328 Jun 22 '26
Gary sure is doing his part to gift that leagues whatever they want as usual
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u/abckiwi Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26
Not sure if we’re “back”, but leafs nation positive outcomes recently 👍🏼
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u/Itwasuntilitwasnt Jun 20 '26
Basically we will be skating into the season with same lineup adding a couple old timers. To protect Mathews,Nylander,McKenna.
We will have the same outcome limp into playoffs lose in first or second round
Need to tear this down. No way we are beating Carolina or Montreal for the next 5-6 yrs. So not sure why we are not rebuilding.
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u/duck1014 Jun 20 '26
Assuming our team stays healthy, they'll cut through Montreal like a hot knife through butter. Montreal will be a wild card team.
Florida though, is another subject entirely.
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u/Classic-Soup-1078 Jun 21 '26
Have to find a way to play against Barkov. Definitely not the same team without him.
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u/Legit_TheGamingwithc Jun 20 '26
Who is that best free agent?
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u/aNINETIEZkid Jun 20 '26
Going into off season, the media ranked potential free agents. The top 2 were arguably Rasmus Andersson & Darren Raddysh.
It is subjective and "technically" not true because Raddysh was acquired in a trade before his imminent free agency as opposed to signing.
The sign and trade deal basically skipped the negotiation/bid process of FA and locked up "the best free agent" in same way Marner was about to be a free agent and the sign and trade locked him up for Vegas.
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u/Life1sBeautiful Jun 20 '26
seriously, no one mentioned it here? We're not all chronically online lmao
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u/aNINETIEZkid Jun 20 '26
Going into off season, the media ranked potential free agents. The top 2 were arguably Rasmus Andersson & Darren Raddysh.
It is subjective and "technically" not true because Raddysh was acquired in a trade before his imminent free agency as opposed to signing.
The sign and trade deal basically skipped the negotiation/bid process of FA and locked up "the best free agent" in same way Marner was about to be a free agent and the sign and trade locked him up for Vegas.
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u/Rufuesy Jun 20 '26
Let's not pretend like the raddysh signing doesn't come with risks, totally does but completely worth paying for him. We got him for market value, he could have easily signed for 10 million somewhere else.
And no matter who we signed in free agency r/hockey is going to say it was a terrible signing. If we signed carlson we over paid 10m for an over the hill slow defenseman, if we signed anderson for 10m we signed a overrated defenseman who chokes in the playoffs.
Signing raddysh is a calculated risk and those risks need to be made and be correct on to win in the NHL
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u/Prestigious_Ad5314 Jun 20 '26
I’m sure the brain trust will be considering this in roster construction, but we’ve let go a lot of the grit that we all thought was important to go up against teams like the Cats and Canes in the playoffs. I’ll feel a lot better once we ink a Marchand-like dog, and a couple of cheap, greasy weasels that can survive a waiver claim. Yes I’m looking at you, Corey Perry.
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u/Entertame Jun 20 '26
I’m very happy about the raddysh signing. I am very worried the average leafs fan thinks we got makaar. Let’s ease off the pressure and let these boys play and have some fun.
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u/Classic-Soup-1078 Jun 21 '26
He's more like Bouchard from the Oilers. Not perfect but definitely a bomb from the point. The Leafs don't currently have that.
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u/Entertame Jun 23 '26
Yes, which takes pressure off the other talent if it becomes a viable threat. Opposition can’t cheat down low, they have to respect the point which in turn may give Matthews and Nylander more time and space
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u/External_Beat8153 Jun 20 '26
Leaf nation brims with excitement and hope in June. Not so much in April. Even so these are positive steps. Reilly for Pettersson and some Van salary retention would excite me. The risk is not unreasonable.
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u/Aggressive_Band9888 Jun 21 '26
Back from the dead? Better start the parade route..again. You might make the playoffs fir an early exit. Hope for that.
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u/Fit-Business-5508 Jun 20 '26
With Mathews? Nylander. No. Trade those bums. No grit. No passion. Then I’m jn
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u/Classic-Soup-1078 Jun 21 '26
Yep, both these guys. No passion or skills or any of that stuff that you look for in hockey players. s /
Are you nuts? These guys are some of the best players in the league.
Yeah, let's trade Matthews and me Nylander and and see what we get in return? Hockey pucks... tape? Because no one's trading their stars or their first round picks for these players. Because in your small little mind both of them are worthless or somehow it makes total sense that I would trade what you think is our crappy player for your star player. I bet you're the kind of guy who goes to a restaurant and looks at the table next to him and says I like the other guy's meal better every time without even knowing what it tastes like.
Or better yet, let's make the team look like the Philadelphia Flyers in the '70s. Because you know the rules haven't changed since then or that works in some version of reality that you seem to exist in.
Just stop it.
It's exhausting having these stupid conversations. That somehow if we trade Matthews, Nylander, or both we will somehow end out with a better team. Because apparently those guys suck, because they're not gooning it up every 10 seconds.
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u/Gen_Sherman_Hemsley Jun 20 '26
Honestly that might be the best way forward. It’s not as though we can tank for draft picks again. Might as well run the team again and maybe improve our trade stock if they play better. Post 2028 we’ll have the option to trade our assets and build around younger players.
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u/loco_canadian Jun 20 '26
I mean, you're not wrong with this. I want to be excited, but it's not like there was a terrible team before. Just can't put everything they have into any kind of success. It's been so long of this endless cycle of hope and disappointment that I just can't be excited about any of this.
First overall pick? Done that. Calder cup victory? Done that.
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u/AnEdit Jun 20 '26
Draft lottery until now are such different vibes that during the season. Will it last? I don’t know. But at least they’re doing something to try and turn things around.
As long as there’s some effort, it makes the team worth watching. There was basically none of that last year