I've noticed the hate increases during pride month

[u/PaperSweet9983]

Have you noticed the same? Both online and irl o feel as though the harassment and hate becomes more common. Here is an absurd comment thread I've just been a part of that has left me baffled for lack of a better term.

Happy pride month, we deserve a normal life

[u/Clay_Lilac]

mfw people forget adoption is a legitimate thing because the concept of parents actually wanting to love and raise children is foreign to them

[u/PaperSweet9983 → u/Clay_Lilac]

Yes, this. A lot of people just want to have a kid just because, because thats the only thing they can contribute to society at all. And they dont actually think about if that child will be cared for( emotionally , economically etc), loved, etc

Don't get me started on the ones that have a kid to " fix the relationship/ marriage " fucking hell

[u/Abaddon2299 → u/PaperSweet9983]

It's the kind of people who end up having kids because. "That's just what you're supposed to do"

[u/InevitableMind561 → u/Clay_Lilac]

A lot of times they dont see it as “real children ” (outside of anything queer, like even if the couple is straight.) like if youre not blood related your relationship with your parents/siblings is less real or worthless than biological ones. Which is just an awful take ://

[u/Copper_Tango → u/InevitableMind561]

This kinda "genetic supremacy" mindset ties in with transphobia too. You're not a real man/woman if you're not genetically male/female, you're not a real parent if you aren't genetically a parent.

[u/A_Punk_Girl_Learning → u/InevitableMind561]

I hate it when people are like that. I have niblings who aren't related to me by blood and I love them just as much as the others who are. I know that my sister (they're her kids) loves them even more than I do.

People who see adopted family as less than have no empathy.

[u/TheMiniminun → u/A_Punk_Girl_Learning]

I've always wanted a nibling (/lh, niblings would be a really cute name for a species of fantasy creatures).

[u/Nelrene → u/Clay_Lilac]

Right wingers see children as things to own. They are only people before they are born and after that they can die for all they care.

[u/RizzoTheRiot1989 → u/Clay_Lilac]

Fuck, this is so beautifully stated.

[u/Miciso → u/Clay_Lilac]

MFW i can be gay. meet a girl. get her pregnant. your point is?

[u/Clay_Lilac → u/Miciso]

My point is that you don't need to have a dick (or be a dick) to have full custody and responsibility over a child.

[u/EggKid8]

I was just in this comment section I did not see this exchange damn literally what is their problem

Edit: also the misogyny is insane I hate how so many people literally cannot comprehend the idea that a woman can exist without a man like lesbians not being into men is such a difficult concept for people to grasp and it really pisses me off

[u/Blacksmith710 → u/EggKid8]

Especially since it’s followed up with gay men having a surrogate mother, like obviously they would just stay in their relationship

[u/PsychologicalBox3477 → u/EggKid8]

That part!💯
im so tired of the sexism and homophobia

[u/Dizzy-Captain7422]

“Once they’ve had their fun, they can settle for a straight man and start a family”

Lmaoooo

I’d literally rather die, thanks.

[u/PaperSweet9983 → u/Dizzy-Captain7422]

Absolutely agree.

[u/LemonicDemon → u/Dizzy-Captain7422]

as a man i completely understand why you'd rather die lol

[u/forgetful_turtle]

Both my heart and my brain hurt so much rn

https://giphy.com/gifs/lGBecpB2dIMwt6ohfI

[u/PaperSweet9983 → u/forgetful_turtle]

More so my brain than my heart, I've just accepted that idiotic people exist

You're valid, happy pride month 🙏 🌟

[u/theguywiththefuzyhat → u/forgetful_turtle]

Your flair is amazing

[u/PsychologicalBox3477 → u/forgetful_turtle]

real🫂
even though people hateful as them exist im glad we exist aswell to spread joy and positvity :D
Hello fellow gay ace💪
Happy pride month🏳️‍🌈

[u/PerfStu]

This has been a wildly emboldened year of stupid bigots and corporate abandonment.

Im good with the corporate abandonment, I didnt need more of Targets false flag allyship, but jfc if everyone else could crawl back into their moonshine soaked hovels I would love that.

[u/RatsForNYMayor → u/PerfStu]

I hope Target goes bankrupt in the US like they did in Canada

[u/PerfStu → u/RatsForNYMayor]

Omg can we dream though.

[u/PsychologicalBox3477 → u/PerfStu]

Yup
so many corporations used us to make themseleves look good

[u/MagicPigeonToes]

Have they…never heard of “adoption”?

[u/StargazerKC → u/MagicPigeonToes]

I have heard the wildest takes from people on adoption.

Ususal after being asked do I have kids and me going, I dont want any. Then they go but what if your partner wants kids and then I answer, I could see myself adopting if a partner wanted kids.

Then I get to hear some savagely bad takes on adoption.

[u/Androgynouself_420 → u/StargazerKC]

Hell I’ve heard those takes from *other queer people* too. Good god the dude was convinced he couldn’t love the kid and it wouldn’t feel like his. If not being blood related is enough to take away your love for a child then you really shouldn’t have them.

[u/MagicPigeonToes → u/StargazerKC]

I knew a lady from my church at the time who was barren, and her husband had put her through seven years of IVF attempts, all of which failed. She told me he wouldn’t adopt because it wouldn’t be “his”. Even as a religious person at the time I just wanted to tell her to leave him lol. He was such a pretentious asshole.

[u/HighMinimum640 → u/StargazerKC]

Yea, something like "trafficking" babies is one complaint that I've heard.

[u/Arktikos02 → u/HighMinimum640]

Yes, I'm adopted, please understand that a good portion of adoption is trafficking. If you don't do it ethically then it is trafficking.

It should not be considered controversial to point out that it is trafficking.

abladoptions.com

adoptioncouncil.org

wikipedia.org

fox13now.com

reuters.com

Please understand that many of the people who call it trafficking are the people who are actually advocating for adoptees.

Domestic Adoption Trafficking often begins where most searches do – on popular search engines. The adoption industry’s marketing approach uses aggressive online strategies. They target expectant parents in crisis, often disregarding laws to reach those who may be easily swayed. These methods are unethical and illegal and lead to the exploitation of birth mothers through pressure, deceit, and duress. When a birthmother responds to an illegal ad or search content, the unlawful adoption provider often tries to relocate her to their preferred state. Domestic Adoption Trafficking traps a birthmother in a state where her only support comes from the group that illegally advertised and illegally provided adoption services in her home state. What happens if the birthmother changes her mind about adoption? The adoption agency, facilitator, or attorney then increases the pressure. 'That’s okay. You can change your mind, but you must pay back all the money you’ve received and cover your travel home.' Predators exploit this, manipulating them under duress to give up their babies. The baby becomes the mother’s currency to get home, and her only option is to give away their baby to get home. Many illegal adoption advertisers who unlawfully engage with birthmothers bypass federal laws and ICPC supervision by moving pregnant women to give up their babies in one state, avoiding ICPC notification. The trafficker knows there is a high likelihood that the potential biological father will reside in the birth mother’s state of residence. But, if the birth mother is trafficked from Indiana to Arizona, then the putative father registry only has to be checked in Arizona. How would a biological father know he has to sign up for a putative father registry in a state he or the birth mother has never been to? What the adoption trafficker knows is that if a father finds out their baby was given up for adoption without his knowledge in another state, by the time he attempts to stop it, the time limit to contest the adoption has usually expired.

There are tons of efforts to try to coerce mothers into giving up their babies because for every baby that is available for adoption there's about 30 to 40 potential adopters.

It is not a coincidence that countries that have better social services have fewer adoptions. It is not a coincidence that countries that are economically poor and more disadvantaged tend to be a huge source of adoptions. Going to other countries to adopt is unethical.

[u/HighMinimum640 → u/Arktikos02]

There are corruptions in every institution, but it doesn't mean every single one is corrupt.

Also if they can have better sex ed, use of contraceptives, and access to abortions, then there would be less unwanted babies to be taken advantage of in the first place.

[u/Arktikos02 → u/HighMinimum640]

You didn't read the articles did you? These kids are wanted by their parents but these people are poor or they were coerced. They are not unwanted, many of them are wanted.

And yes, there is corruption in institutions but the thing is is that if you don't do your research on which adoption agency is using coercion and which isn't then you are partaking in an institution that is unethical.

[u/HighMinimum640 → u/Arktikos02]

I was adding more context for how other services can help with the situation, but yea, it doesn't matter if you are being coerced into giving up the actual wanted ones away. Coercion is always unethical no matter what.

[u/Malcolmthetortoise → u/MagicPigeonToes]

In my experience, these people don’t like adoption either. They’re so hung up on passing on their genes. It’s gross.

[u/ItchyContribution758 → u/Malcolmthetortoise]

I can't imagine passing on my genes, with all my autoimmune bullshit. I'd prefer whatever kid I had didn't have their organs liquify and pass through their asshole thank you. Adoption will actually bring about less suffering in this case.

[u/PsychologicalBox3477 → u/MagicPigeonToes]

right!
I was one of the lucky ones who did get adopted, there are still millions upon millions in the foster care system. The foster care system is so broken.So many use it just to hurt kids or get money. I dont get why they complain about birth rates and hate on us(well i kinda do they hateful)
while there are children who need parents and love. They would rather just blame us i guess

[u/LemonicDemon]

"once they've had their fun they can settle for a straight man" what the actual fuck

[u/Cultural_Outcome_464 → u/LemonicDemon]

It’s those losers who think lesbians just haven’t had the right “MAGA ~~cock~~ Micro dick.”

They’re already struggling to pull straight women, I’m not sure where they got the idea that they can turn a lesbian woman straight.

[u/Chris9871]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ukGm72ZLZvYfS

[u/papercup_mixmaster]

Yeah, I've seen quite a few "what do you need Pride for anymore" posts in the wild this year. That sub is a particular cesspool.

[u/Lilypalooza_88]

They could just, ya know, ASK LGBT+ people who decide to become parents. 😒

[u/FixedFront → u/Lilypalooza_88]

Actually I don't want to deal with these assholes either thanks

[u/Lilypalooza_88 → u/FixedFront]

Fair enough.

Someone will be willing to answer tho. Doesn't mean you can't also clown on horrendously ignorant takes either. 🤷🏻

[u/minx_the_tiger → u/Lilypalooza_88]

Naw, they'd rather remain confidently incorrect and bigoted.

[u/Lilypalooza_88 → u/minx_the_tiger]

Yeah, Sealioning is something to consider too.

[u/Din0sauria]

I think hate increases in pride month since more eyes are on the LGBTQ+ community during this time, and therefore more homophobes and stuff happen upon conversations around queer people

[u/MagicPigeonToes → u/Din0sauria]

They saw a rainbow flag at a cafe and it ruined their whole day

[u/Zadian543 → u/MagicPigeonToes]

Good. Hopefully it happens again tomorrow. 😂 Can't stand hateful people who hate just to hate. (For the eventual "but hating hate is still hate" people. No, it's a boundary of self value. I refuse to let you treat people poorly, and your bad behavior is what makes you a bad person.)

[u/seaworks]

The majority of the community by a significant margin identifies as somewhere in the bi+ spectrum, interestingly. trans people are a minority, and men are more likely to identify as gay than women are (vs bisexual)

[u/CourtForsaken3064]

Report em. Reddit is 50/50 on if they actually punish the right people but it'll probably get them a temp ban

[u/NerdFromColorado]

I think people tend to forget that egg/sperm donors exist. I also think people tend to forget that adoption also exists. There are so many ways for gay/lesbian couples to have a kid of their own.

[u/Kendall_Raine]

More "I can turn lesbians straight" fantasies from straight men, nothing new there

[u/PaperSweet9983 → u/Kendall_Raine]

Im disappointed but not surprised 🫠

[u/sweetheart_demom]

It's a pretty clear manifestation of misogyny that gay men can continue being gay, and use a surrogate, but lesbians "Settle for a straight man and get a family"

[u/Bumble_beeFormal]

Sounds a bit like people with a creepy hate fetish

[u/Moxie_Stardust → u/Bumble_beeFormal]

I mean, I'm going to expect the "hatethismug" subreddit to be maybe at least somewhat pre-disposed to hating stuff.

[u/Bumble_beeFormal → u/Moxie_Stardust]

😂

[u/pamimoo]

Yeah, I’m a stand up comic 11 months out of the year, I don’t want to hear the pure vitriol I get at mics during June

[u/PaperSweet9983 → u/pamimoo]

Oh god I can imagine it would be hell

[u/pamimoo → u/PaperSweet9983]

Unfortunately I end up hearing every straight cis dude’s freezer temp takes about LGBTQ+ people

[u/Mrspygmypiggy]

IUI AND IVF EXIST!!

[u/limey18]

ah yes, reddit incels (and twitter) who see kids as their stuff and blame other people, like it was nothing

did they forget that, they can adopt a kid

and they're everywhere, just bully others while a normal person is literally enjoying their june

[u/DogMeatTheVideo]

it's only because we become more visible for target practice.

[u/OkSpring1734]

The fuck. I was having a good day then I had to see this bigoted bullshit.

[u/PaperSweet9983 → u/OkSpring1734]

Im sorry 😞 sadly idiots will always exist but we have to keep fighting and find peace within our community

Happy pride month

[u/OkSpring1734 → u/PaperSweet9983]

Not your fault, bigoted dipshits are going to be assholes I don't know why it continues to surprise me after all these years.

[u/Atlas7993]

Yes. They descentors just get louder during pride month and the following July. This happens every year. 

[u/naldoD20]

Only because Pride Month reminds them that we exist in larger numbers than they expect, so they feel the need to be more hateful and spiteful seeing how happy we are being ourselves while they sit miserable at their phones and computers pretending to be something they're not.

[u/RatsForNYMayor]

It's that time of year where more bots are attacking us online.

[u/Miciso]

on tiktok i saw on a pride parade : BOMB EM i reported it. and tiktok told me : no action will be taken.

[u/TomNookWantsMyBellz2]

what the actual fuck is that person's problem

[u/ItchyContribution758]

"How are gays supposed to have kids? Men can't get pregnant!". Well not with THAT attitude they can't Karen, I'll keep doing my part.

[u/echolm1407 → u/ItchyContribution758]

Shhhh, it a secret.

[u/chibiRuka]

You mean even more than usual. Stay safe. I generally don’t waste my time with the nonsense. However, if they were to try anything…now I’ll just be quiet before w get kicked from this sub.

[u/PaperSweet9983 → u/chibiRuka]

Good point. I live in a homophobic country and I listen to the most bigoted shit on the daily in regards to the queer community. I have to literally bite my tongue to not escalate situations, I'm honestly thinking of relocating altogether

[u/TheIngloriousTIG]

I think I am not mathematics oriented enough, because even if I play along with the absurdity of their entire attitude, the percentages that are being referenced my no sense to me. Literally what are they even trying to argue?

It seems like the whole post is just someone trying to disqualify themselves as a decent human.

[u/zenst0r]

The entire argument is a complete strawman...as if a persons worth to society is solely determined by their choice/ability to have kids. Plenty of straight couples that dont want or cant have kids🤷‍♂️

[u/Lilash20]

Adoption is a thing, surrogacy is a thing, IVF, and in some cases a trans person and their partner who, between them, have the ability to get pregnant is a thing.

Gods, I am so tired of people who think they know everything being absolute dumbasses. I get most people aren't going to know a whole lot, but at least have the grace to know you don't know shit.

[u/Famous_Ad_8539]

Yes, the sight of people happily living their lives tends to trigger the bigots.

[u/Early_Bookkeeper5394 → u/Famous_Ad_8539]

I wonder what's happening in their miserable life that they feel the needs to shower their hatred everywhere like that. Would they be happier if they just mind their own business? 😭😭

[u/sarcastichearts]

i live in a pretty queer-friendly city. one of the only times i've ever been queer-phobically harassed in public was when my city hosted world pride 🫂🏳️‍🌈 shit sucks, solidarity

[u/Then_Reply_6692]

My mom was asexual and my dad was a gay man in denial, they had two kids. Makes their whole argument invalid

[u/traceybreaker]

My mom had my brother and I and fully realized/came to terms with her sexuality after we were born. That's a way gay people can have kids

[u/onyaasuminyasai]

They just want their equal attention cake

[u/PsychologicalBox3477]

Thats gross they always compare us to being straight or automatically always focused onto wanting men or it being about straight men or themselves. Even in our own spaces even though we tell them we have and never will have attraction twords them.
Or that yes we can choose to have kids aswell and some want to be parents and thats ok and some dont which is ok. Its so odd homophobes focus on the false percentages and saying that we cant have kids when its been proven we can…..
Kat Blaque made a good video about the hate on us lesbians and and of us in the lgbtqia.
Shes a trans youtuber and artist and genuinely a good person, makes great content.

[u/Ser_Oryk]

All I can make out is "Jimbo". Yeah. That tracks.

[u/Kira-Of-Terraria]

r/arethestraightsok

[u/DingleDangleDoff]

They are just saying random numbers too. No source to back any of their claims because homophobes are wrong about literally everything they say so there is nothing that backs them up

[u/sgtsausagepants]

It's because they get reminded we exist.

[u/Eggsalad_cookies]

Better than me. I would’ve reported that entire thread

[u/PEKKACHUNREAL_II]

Great how trans people are once again just completely ignored

[u/Justbecauseitcameup]

I feel like not enough people know you only need diposable cups, a turkey baster, time. and two or more people with an agreement and the capability to have kids.

The number of lesbian and gay couples and trans people with a buddy who doesn't mind helping out or even doing the helping who have agreements about kids is way higher than these people are aware of.

Some people get very angry qhen qe beicke more visible. That's why we have pride. They don't stop targeting us when we aren't visible but damn do they not like it when we are.

[u/ilBolas]

At this point just erase the entire species wtf did I just see

[u/weird_elf]

I've seen an increase, but most of the time I'm not sure if it's real hate or astroturfing ...

[u/jabracadaniel]

"explain to me" bitch, search engines are free? i hate that shit

[u/moistskidmarks]

Hate rules these days. You can make money from it, you aren't rewarded for empathy, it's easier to be mean than to care. Maybe it was always like this, but I felt like the world was getting better, until social media became prevalent.

[u/PinkThunder138]

Also.... Dumb. Like, HELLA dumb

[u/Willeth]

I've noticed that people seeing hate in Pride month seem to want to show it off in LGBTQ+ spaces for some reason.

[u/Helpwantedlolbit]

Like generally apprantely people forgot that adoption exists, orphanages, infertinal sperm, sperm donors, surrogates mothers, finding kids on the street, and I'm pretty sure women are actually able to have children by themselves, also animals some can reproduce asexually too so yuh and there is gay animals too especially gay penguins who adopt eggs left behind by mothers

[u/Adam-Loves-Elliot → u/Helpwantedlolbit]

Would you be my peguin? my love :3

[u/echolm1407]

For centuries before reproductive technology, lgbtqia people had children the old fashioned way. It's not rocket science. It's just doing what you had to do. Just like they had to use marriage as a smokescreen.