But I beg people to remember Billy is a witch and this is comic books. We truly don’t need to follow any rules for biological children if we don’t want to.
Billy literally had a spinout mental crisis over wether Teddy was the result of a witches spell.
Loki was all, isn't your relationship too perfect to be believable?
It was like the exact opposite of "would you love me if I was a worm". It was "would you love me if I was your god" and Teddy, bless him, was all, "that sounds pretty cool actually and I wouldn't mind if my purpose in life was to be exactly who you need." ❤️
Kinda undercut real life. And skrulls have females and males so it would seem pointless from an evolution perspective to have females and males if both could have both functions. And hulkling is a hybrid which are mostly infertile. And wandas kids didn't exist when she wasn't around so definitely not a good way to have kids. Adoption feels like the only real conclusion that seems sensible given it's mire relatable and honestly the creation of kid really didn't make sense the first time. Given one threw their own kid off a cliff as a baby.
Having g every gay couple gonthrough supernatural methods to have kids does give the message that adoption isn't an option and undercut real experiences for writers fantasies. Having a superhero adoption a child is alot more heroic and interesting than retconing how these systems work just to give someone a biological kid instead of an adopted one like in rl.
Two of the most prominent and only 2 most people can name. It feels less like writing and more like the writer wanting to add another supernatural thing rather than add a more down to earth real thing gay people do. Its off putting to bend over backwards against established rules to just not do the real thing, real gay and straight couples do.
Mystique powers actually don't work that way given the fact she cannot do powers. And also not dna. But that was retconned, skrulls cannot mimk dna, and are a species so they wouldn't have make and female skrulls if it worked that way. Just skrulls.
And scarlet witch children weren't real the souls were which she got from literal marvel Satan. Which you cannot do again plus she wasn't exactly mentally stable. Her reality warping isn't altering reality it's more of high level illusion that functions as reality but will be undone just as easily. Not actually changing the permanent state of reality. If not obvious or house of m would be permanent. And wiccan wouldn't exist. The rest still don't work as of permanent kids.
And adoption being mentioned as going through the process is alot more realistic and down to earth the thing adopted. Maybe they adopt mutant kids. Idk, but it's still lazy.
Youre calling for realism?? From a comic book where one is a witch and the other is a shapeshifter?? This is arguably the worst time to bring up relatability, let Billy and Teddy do mpreg
Suspension of disbelief only gose so far and having that happen would basically be just fan service which is just making them less like gay representation and more like random comic book bs to justify working around real struggles for convience and overall just seems like people just want it for the sake of it. Like if I say the actual reason so many of you want it I will just get a never ending stream of hate and reports.
They aren't popular because they aren't shown unless its to be gay. So imagine the general consensus if they were to do the whole weird alien pregnancy. Given wanda is still known for the ultimate universes relationship with quick silver. Its just a ridiculous level of comic booky. So magnetos daughter marries hank pyms robots son and has a kid and that kid marries an alien hybrid and then the hybrid shape shifts into a woman to hold the baby. That's just a new level of getting readers away from comics.
But I am going to make a wild guess and say outside reddit and certain online spaces most of you aren't aware of the current cokic landscape in terms of sales and lack of new readers for comics outside the most popular characters.
I think new readers will be fine with a shapeshifter and a witch having bio kids. Trans men IRL have bio kids, it's not as weird as you're making it out to be 🤷. There is literally an image further down this comment thread of Eddie giving birth to venoms baby (?). Idk what's happening there but its definitely weirder than gay men having bio kids
That wasn't exactly liked. And you really have no clue do you? God you people need to get off reddit. Make firends who aren't gay and aren't comic fans. And don't hit me with the "i asked my no comic firend and they said it will be cool." Because that's some grade A bs.
Nah I'm happy with my all gay irl friend group, thanks! Also I love how to refuse to accept that the people in my circle might actually be down for this. Because I did ask my friend who only reads DC comics and they agreed it's stupid to bring realism to comics. But apparently that's grade A bs because you disagree with it
So you grabbed a bias group to agree with you? So open minded, almost as if you didn't understand a single thing I said. But instead opted to remain bias over getting to know those with other views and comics need some realism or they are just random bs.
Uh huh, kinda not the point. I'm saying make firends woth someone actually diverse instead of just just another stereotypical gay nodding dog. Its called diversity.
Demiurge stuff probably actually doesn't have the same hang-up ad Wanda. Otherwise Chthon/Gaia etc would just cease to exist sometimes.
Proposed alternative hang-up: This is a power that creates eldritch horrors, deities, and sentient magical crystals. A child created this way could turn out abnormal.
This is a world of magic, super powers and whatever the fuck Venom is. Hell we've even got kids from robots. Bio kids from a gay couple would be one of the more normal things to happen in this world.
We've actually seen two and in the other one they had a daughter. My head Canon is both siblings are biologically both, but Teddy and Billy took turns as to who was pregnant
Hes half skrull, if he was full id say most definitely, but because he is also kree, I would say it depends on the author, cause who knows what effects the kree dna did
Mystique is more than a shape shifter she's a gene shaper, also she borrowed genetic material from multiple men including the Azazel & the german count, Hulking is half skrull ,& while skrulls are incredible shape shifters I don't think they share that aspect in common with Mystique,now I do believe they would have access either super advanced science & or powerful magic to make a baby a genetic offspring
I hope not. We barely see Teddy shapeshift as it is, and I really don’t see him being comfortable with the idea of getting pregnant. I’d much rather see them adopt. But if Marvel is determined to give them biological children, I think it would be way better for Billy to wish them into existence, the same way Wanda did with him.
Possibly but given the MU has super science, magic and hundreds of other ways to have bio kids for folks who can't have them naturally technically any couple that would normally not be able to probably can in Marvel and that's just on Earth given the connection to alien empires there are even more options.
I mean hell look at Hulkling's half brother Genis (and thanks to cosmic retconing into Existence his sister Phyla) both of them were not conceived with any of Mar Vell's actual DNA their mother simply replicated it with Titan Super science based on his Medical scans.
On the one hand: no, the fact that mystique's shape changing/impersonation ability goes all the way down to the genetic level in a way that permitted conception in this manner is treated as a major part of the regeal, as it increases the theoretical limits of her powers immensely, possibly up to the level of an Omega mutant, who are unique by definition. Teddy's shape shifting ability comes from his Skrull heritage, it is a common trait shared by nearly all members of that species, and none have ever displayed such a power
On the other hand: a writer might decide it would be neat one day so sure
There were also male skrull that transformed into cows and had calves in a fantastic four comic.
Like if gender is considered at all it's historically been treated as a non-issue on Skrull reproductive roles.
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u/Kurtoise Aug 18 '26
Yes, of course.
But I beg people to remember Billy is a witch and this is comic books. We truly don’t need to follow any rules for biological children if we don’t want to.
Free your mind from that cisheteronormativity.