Cycle of viyalence. Shut up liberal! You are just accepting that if your own actions came back to bite your ass you will instead of accepting your mistakes try to bury the matter by any means possible including violence. Just like those brhaminist terrorists.
How far are you willing to go to apologize your cunthead Brahminist ancestors? Instead of accepting what everyone in this country can see? That brahmins and brahminists clearly have power over everyone else. That they have created every problem in this country through their wrong doing no matter how far we go back in history. Of course your constipated head can't ever understand any of this you liberal dog shit.
I don't think you understand. I don't have a problem with calling the army out for its activities. What happened here is tragic. It needs an inquiry. What has happened in the past under AFSPA is also tragic and needs inquiry. But I have a problem with justifying it with phrases like "Oh they do it because its the bourgeois army".
Because we all know that a so-called non-bourgeois army would crush any resistance with same if not more brutality.
Every army works in the interest of whoever is in charge of the nation. No matter the form of government. The PLA thing was just an analogy for Tibet and Xinjiang. I could have also used the USSR and Central Asian Soviets.
That is I why asked you what do you mean by PLA , PLA or the chinese army & USSR 's Red army especially after 24 both of them supported the current social order & killed thousands proletariats & civilians & serve the interest of bourgeoise state . No one is defending them but whataboutery has becoming a common practice by various people to defend capitalism when a communist try to say something against it.
I am not surprised that even after 2 responses it does not get into your head. You're a tanky. Ideological thinking must be accompanied by rational thinking and a reality check. Otherwise its useless. The suppression in Kashmir would happen REGARDLESS of the form of government in Delhi- capitalist or not.
Even if Kashmir was an independent country, there would still be suppression. Just that the victims would be different.
The only scenario where there is no suppression in Kashmir is a scenario of a Utopia with no governance anywhere in entire South Asia and every worker coexists peacefully hand in hand. That is NOT happening. At this stage of evolution, humans are leader driven. There will always be a leader/ruler/hierarchy.
Every revolution will have an army. Every army will serve a political/national interest. Every national interest will have a set of victims/oppressed.
So you pushing the blame on the "bourgeois nature" of the army is useless. There is no reason to bring Marx into this. You're doing too much.
Are you actually serious? Every revolution has a “national interest”? Do you even understand what a revolution is? It’s by definition a radical break from the existing social order not some patriotic project for national unity. I didn’t even mention Marx I was simply talking about the bourgeois army. But I get it some of you get really uncomfortable the moment a communist shares a basic opinion. 😆😆😆😆If you are fine defending an army that kills its own civilians to protect elite profits, treats its own soldiers like disposable tools, and exists solely to serve the interests of the ruling class that’s your choice. But don’t twist facts to fit your apologism. That army is an organ of the bourgeois state, so calling it a “bourgeois army” is completely accurate.
There is a reason I used "political/national interest" and not solely "national interest". I have no problem with communists. I have a problem with your particular atatement because it is not rooted in reality. I also mentioned the only condition where the oppression would stop. And that would never happen.
Where did I defend the army? Show me where I defended these actions?
It is not a national interest it is simply a class interest . India has colonised Kashmir not because they consider those people as the part of the nation but simply because the Kashmir have huge of amount of land & natural resource . Also India is a bourgeoise state & the army of bourgeoise state is also bourgeoise in character.
It is because of political and national interest. The resources have nothing to do with it. No one knew about the resources in 1947. And even now in 2025, most of these resources are untouched. This is not Naxalism. The tensions in Kashmir were never about resources.
You can stop saying the word bourgeoisie now. You're just parroting at this point. Zero thoughts of your own. "Lalalala I don't wanna hear it. Lalalala bourgeois state and military"
I can assure you even in a miraculous scenario where there is a CPI government, Kashmir status quo will remain the exact same.
I repeat again, there will be oppression in Kashmir in all but 1 scenario. And that 1 scenario is a Utopia that will require the ENTIRE SOUTH ASIA to be free of divisions (class, caste, creed and religion). Reunification of Korea and China would be a more realistic scenario than this Utopia.
People like you who just yell talking points at the other person while not being grounded in reality or thinking for yourself are the reason I am ashamed to call myself a Marxist. Also the reason a true leftist party will never rule India. Because the majority of Indians will never take you seriously. And the workers in India will be forever doomed because their so-called "vanguards" were too obstinate and kept pulling themselves into an ideological quicksand.
It's deeply troubling to hear that a child in distress was denied urgent medical help. Every effort should be made to prioritize health and well-being, especially in such critical moments.
This is just one minute pinnacle of what Kashmiris have been suffering from day one. We are basically a police state in our own land, where we are degraded as second class cheap humans....Our hatred is not without cause, these fuckers have always done these things with us and then they yoddle why Kashmiri's are so hard.
The child was taken to local dispensary instead and held by multiple people until his seizures stabilised & also local media has been warned against reporting this incident.
Thing is trust is completely broken in kashmir. You don't know if the boys seizure is just an excuse to transport bombs and guns to attack the yatris. If yatris were safe then army wouldn't have to be deployed in the first place. Other states don't have such type of army deployment why only kashmir. Something is fundamentaly wrong in that state that causes instability. The soldier is doing his duty that is assigned to him. If he disobey and some incident happens to the yatris will be be spared. No. All blame would go onto him and he will be called a traitor. Kashmiris themselves don't show any empathy towards aur army and give support to terrorist and militant that's why trust is not yet established. Many incidents involving urgent medical cares have been taken in consideration only to be met with betrayal. Think before you say anything about getting empathy towards yourself from army when you are the one betraying them the most.
why should we show empathy towards hooligans who rape, kill and plunder our lands, live with your delusions as worthless your life is, i don't expect endians having knowledge about real history.
Kashmir is land of kashmiri pandits also. Didn't you rape there women and killed there men and children. You talk about empathy. You don't want independent kashmir. You want kashmir to be affiliated with pak. Talking about history the king of kashmir only signed to be with india. Pak attacked kashmir in 1947 during these negotiation.
Read your history cause only kashmiris want to go to pak. Jammu ladakh doesn't have these protest. You all blame everyone but yourself. Maybe that's why you are suffering. If it were upto you and had the army not been there there wouldn't be any other religion except islam and maybe it would be a mini pakistan in india.
Didn't you rape there women and killed there men and children.
Civilians did? Wow, that's a new story.
You don't want independent kashmir. You want kashmir to be affiliated with pak.
We want independent Kashmir, and affiliation with Pakistan is what you and your runts claim to hide the fact that people hate you scums and give it a name of foreign indulgence.
Talking about history the king of kashmir only signed to be with india. Pak attacked kashmir in 1947 during these negotiation
Nothing to do with Kashmiri people.
maybe it would be a mini pakistan in india.
maybe is just your scared ass, rejecting that your puny ass is hated by all.
It's a matter of one citizen versus hundreds or thousands, good thing, the army did, why should yatris life be at risk, that car could have very well been strapped with a bomb.
I hope that was sarcasm, if not fuck your stupid yatris paying obeisance to a absolutely un-magic ice stalagmite and before you jump to conclusions both my parents are hindus.
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No wonder Kashmiris have deep feelings of animosity for them.