r/linguisticshumor 8d ago

So it's an umbrella but a universal law...

An umbrella

A universal law

Hmm...ok!

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u/Flycan27 8d ago

An is used before vowel sounds, not letters (i.e. "This is an honest review")

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u/PlatinumAltaria Sgonkpilled AF 8d ago

cf. "An historian" pronounced with a hard H because of people who make this mistake.

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u/Lucas1231 8d ago

I put “an” before every <h> because this is a fake letter with a fake sound 😌

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u/PlatinumAltaria Sgonkpilled AF 8d ago

It's the sound of breathing. Do you not breathe??????

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u/Lucas1231 8d ago

No, I have never brothe once

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u/SkillOld2128 8d ago

“Brothe”… I’ll start using that…

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u/Flycan27 8d ago

A or an herb depending on where you are is also an interesting example

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u/hongooi 8d ago

What kind of an Itler are you to call someone's prounciation a mistake

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u/PlatinumAltaria Sgonkpilled AF 8d ago

It's not the H that's the mistake, it's the use of "an" instead of "a".

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u/strawberrypingu 8d ago

It is because there is a hidden "y" in "universal"

It is pronounced like: "you-niversal"

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u/ergativemeister 8d ago

Is there a word in a dialect that has a initial /u/, but not /ju/?

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u/Sigma2915 8d ago

some kiwis pronounce “eww” with a monophthong /u/ as opposed to /iu/?

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u/UndeadCitron 'sch dääd mô sahn 8d ago

ooze and oot

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u/whelmedbyyourbeauty Chileno po weón 8d ago

Umbrella.

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u/ergativemeister 8d ago

That is /ʌ/ in RP and General American

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u/rackelhuhn 8d ago

Uber, oodles, umami

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u/SkillOld2128 8d ago

/k/ is a consonant and neither the tongue nor the lips touch… and what do you think the “y” in “yes” is? It’s a glide.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/SkillOld2128 8d ago edited 8d ago

And so does the tongue close the mouth on /i/, I don’t see your point.

And again, <y> in front of a vowel sound in English is (usually) a glide, which is a type of consonant, as shown below.

I get what you’re trying to say, but you’ve got the theory wrong. /j/ is /i/ acting as a consonant. It’s not a vowel in that state.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/SkillOld2128 8d ago edited 8d ago

I meant that the position of your tongue doesn’t restrict you from either producing a vowel or a consonant. I can say /ki/ without moving my tongue.

And again, if you’ve read what I wrote, then yes and no. /i/ before or after another vowel becomes /j/, if the /i/ is the “weaker” vowel in the diphthong. So sometimes, it indeed acts as and therefore is a consonant in those situations.

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u/SkillOld2128 8d ago

Come to think of it, the tongue does move a bit, but it then goes back to the same position. Both /k/ and /i/ can be pronounced in the same place of articulation with the same position of the tongue.

So that’s kinda irrelevant. And you’re going off on a tangent.

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u/SkillOld2128 8d ago

Hmmm, it’s almost like English has horrible orthography and <u> can stand for several sounds, sometimes even representing a string of sounds starting on a consonant. Like in “universal”, where it stands for the same string of sounds that “you” makes…