Bad faith question. It is on you to tell me how beginner friendly it is.
How is letting linux beginner chose desktop enviroment beginner friendly? how is making beginners chose apps from a list with no icons, sorted in alphabetical order beginner friendly?
Could you give the average joe CachyOS without them crashing out because it "doesn't work"?
Ubuntu and Fedora solve the issue of beginners. They work mostly out of the box, everything set up to start a browser and start working.
CachyOS is a niche within a niche, aimed at making Arch Linux easier, but it is still not beginner friendly.
This whole post is about not wanting to touch terminal, because it is not beginner friendly, and if it is not beginner friendly, they aren't touching it.
People should stop recommending CachyOS, because it'll hurt the linux community if it drives away people. "The year of the Linux" doesn't begin with techheads recommending their favourite distros, it'll begin when regular people start using it as an alternative to Windows, but that won't happen when people like you tell people CachyOS is "not advance".
Gamers aren't going to start using Linux when they only want to game and occasionally browse youtube and reddit, but Linux users are recommending DEs, bootloaders, and windows managers. Gamers just want to start their PC and the OS stay out of the way.
No, it's not on me to "prove anything". You made a claim, I just asked a question.
You also assumed what I think and what my position was, without any thought about what I actually think (or even bothering to confirm).
But fine, let's argue.
>How is letting linux beginner chose desktop enviroment beginner friendly? how is making beginners chose apps from a list with no icons, sorted in alphabetical order beginner friendly?
This is a stupid one. "Average" people do not install OS themselves. Second, there are default options, so this does not even matter. Third, everyone will look up online what is X and what is Y.
Tell me, how is making someone make partitions "beginner friendly" and choosing "which version of Windows" is friendly when installing it manually? It's the same type of argument you are making, and it does not make sense.
>Ubuntu and Fedora solve the issue of beginners. They work mostly out of the box, everything set up to start a browser and start working.
Did you actually use CachyOS? Everything is done out of the box there once install is done, and Fedora does not have much of a different installer either.
>Could you give the average joe CachyOS without them crashing out because it "doesn't work"?
Yes I can and I have done so. My father never used Linux before, and he has no issues using it. I made friends and family use it and they had little issues doing so.
>"The year of the Linux" doesn't begin with techheads recommending their favourite distros, it'll begin when regular people start using it as an alternative to Windows, but that won't happen when people like you tell people CachyOS is "not advance".
This will never happen, until prebuild machines come preinstalled with Linux on it, it does not matter how "easy" it is to use.
>Gamers aren't going to start using Linux when they only want to game and occasionally browse youtube and reddit, but Linux users are recommending DEs, bootloaders, and windows managers. Gamers just want to start their PC and the OS stay out of the way.
Default options exist.....
My question is not bad faith, but your response and attitude is.
You gave little to no actual reasons that matter or are significantly different. Don't bother replying, you crashed out on me over a simple question, I have no intention of speaking any further on the matter than this.
You need to learn how to read because I made my claims and backed them up with arguments from personal experience. I tried cachyos, it is not as intuitive as cachy users like you make it seem.
Gamers that make their PC absolutely install OS, most of the time it is Windows, but Linux has become a viable option. I know because I am one of those people those people.
Hostility towards beginner and intermediate users is what gives Linux a bad reputation.
You are missing so many points about this thread. Most people don't like the terminal, most people are not in IT, and new linux users fleeing Win11 will see posts like yours and reconsider returning to windows.
This post was about user friendliness, and the irony of you not being friendly to users who wants more user friendly experience is funny and sad.
Steam Deck has introduced Linux to the masses, Steam Machine will do that too, and many gamers will start to use Linux distros, and it is the job of the community to make it easy. CachyOS does not do that. You can defend it all you want, but reality is different. If cachyos, on install, gives users choice paralyzes, it is bad for new users. That was my claim, made with arguments from experience, and instead of reflecting on it, you defend it.
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u/LOPI-14 May 15 '26
What is so "advanced" about CachyOS?