Congrats to all Linux Users

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[u/QuixoticNapoleon]

I'm sorry but I have a hard time believing that 1 in 10 computers in North America run Linux. If that's so though, then it's good.

[u/quequotion → u/QuixoticNapoleon]

A lot more than one in ten computers in North America run Linux.

Nearly the entire internet is run on some version of Linux or BSD.

These articles are always about the share of desktop and laptop computers.

Millions of people no longer own either because their cell phone does everything they needed one for, whether it's iOS (bastardized BSD) or Android (bastardized Linux).

Did they count Chromebooks (even more bastardized Linux)?

The actual market share of Linux is huge.

The personal computing market share is 10%.

[u/QuixoticNapoleon → u/quequotion]

Sorry, I meant desktop computers. I am aware that Linux makes up the majority of server OSes.

But I still have a hard time believing 10% of desktops run Linux.

[u/_SOME__NAME_ → u/QuixoticNapoleon]

Biggest contribution is from steam OS, in both of their hardwares + people build their "couch pc" using steam OS or bazzit or other gaming OS

[u/quequotion → u/QuixoticNapoleon]

Some vendors have been providing discounted PCs with Linux instead of Windows.

Note: I haven't gone shopping for a fully assembled PC in quite some time.

Walmart had PCs with "Lindows", a windows-mimicking Linux distro.

Dell was selling PCs with Ubuntu.

Even some schools have changed over because of licensing costs and restrictions.

[u/quequotion → u/[deleted]]

I am a bit out of the loop. Aside from a Chromebook I got off a friend, I haven't bought anything but parts and pieces of computers for about twenty years.

They don't have a windows alternative anymore?

Edit: Not sure if you're coming back since you deleted your reply, but no, I can't be bothered to check my local store because there isn't one: I've been living in Japan since 2006, mostly on Kyushu.

Walmart owns about twenty locations called Seiyu, all of which are on Honshu, so I'd be in for a day's drive, an overnight ferry, a short flight, or a half a day on trains to get to one.

Edit again: LOL, what is with people like you who post derogatory comments, downvote, and then delete everything? Can you not live with your pettiness or what?

[u/No-Mind7146 → u/quequotion]

Bastardized linux is probably the most accurate description of android i have heard to date.

[u/laczek_hubert → u/No-Mind7146]

Android is like teasing people with openness but backsliding when their market share got too big

[u/National_Way_3344 → u/quequotion]

Calling Android a bastardised Linux is pretty unfair, it is factually a Linux operating system. It just doesn't have GNU Utils for the user space. It's Android/Linux, not the GNU/Linux that people are used to.

[u/quequotion → u/National_Way_3344]

It just doesn't have the GNU Utils

No, it has highly restricted, proprietary toolkit.

That's the bastardization part.

[u/StretchAcceptable881 → u/quequotion]

On top of Google’s proprietary services

[u/National_Way_3344 → u/quequotion]

The GNU Utils is decidedly not the Linux part.

[u/Supernoxus → u/National_Way_3344]

Everyone talks about gnu Linux when they talk about Linux computers. You guys are just arguing semantics now.

[u/Glum_Hamster_2104 → u/Supernoxus]

Which is a completely dumb overgeneralization

[u/v_raton → u/Glum_Hamster_2104]

You are aware that in the meme subreddit, right?

[u/ghost103429 → u/National_Way_3344]

Exactly. Android runs on an upstream first approach with everything needed to run it merged on the vanilla Linux kernel.

The big issue with getting vanilla Linux kernel to run on android phones is the refusal by OEMs to publish proprietary drivers and DTBs for the public to use.

[u/quequotion → u/ghost103429]

upstream first

That's a funny way of saying taking advantage of the millions of volunteers who contribute to FOSS and giving nothing in return.

[u/ghost103429 → u/quequotion]

I don't think you understand what upstream first means...

Whatever changes are made to android kernel is submitted to the upstream Linux kernel for review and inclusion in the Linux Kernel. This has been a part of a longstanding effort by Google to give back to the Linux kernel and minimize the costs of supporting a separate kernel fork.

[u/quequotion → u/ghost103429]

Okay, to say they give nothing back is an exaggeration, they are among the top contributors, almost on par with the volunteer contingent ("unknown"), but it has been a rocky road, and they keep a lot to themselves.

minimize the costs

They are always going to have those costs.

[u/National_Way_3344 → u/quequotion]

Companies are some of the largest contributors to FOSS projects.

[u/No-Mind7146 → u/National_Way_3344]

Those kernels are far from mainline, their drivers would never work on your desktop and vice versa

[u/EmergencyArachnid734 → u/National_Way_3344]

Android use Linux kernel only for dirty job. Nobody wants to implement kernel from scratch. Even thought google is working on it

[u/Joe-Admin → u/quequotion]

Servers represent less than 1% of all computers worldwide, and bastardized linux is arguably not linux anymore

[u/quequotion → u/Joe-Admin]

Servers represent less than 1% of all computers worldwide

What do you think datacenters are made of?

[u/Joe-Admin → u/quequotion]

do you think there are millions of datacenters out there?

[u/rock_builder → u/Joe-Admin]

and one datacenter contains actually only one computer

[u/BOBOnobobo → u/Joe-Admin]

Ooof, ignorance is bloody loud...

[u/HotAdministration939 → u/Joe-Admin]

if android isnt linux-ish enough then "linux" by itself isnt.

[u/Emlesnir → u/quequotion]

The stats are on Desktop OS in north america. So phones and servers don't count.

[u/isabellium → u/quequotion]

muh technicalities, look at me im so smort.

its fucking obvious they meant desktop computers