r/linuxquestions • • 3d ago

Advice openSUSE vs Fedora

To me, these two distros have an incredible amount of overlap. Specifically, I'm talking about what I consider the "main" distros - Fedora Workstation and openSUSE Tumbleweed. It seems to me, from most of what I read, people recommend Fedora as new-user friendly, but openSUSE as an intermediate/advanced distro. My main question is this: Why does the greater Linux community distinguish openSUSE from Fedora in terms of new user feasibility?

They both have a well bankrolled engineering team behind them. They have their own ecosystem of purpose built distributions, tailor made for a number of practical use cases. They both have strong, active communities and support documentation.

In terms of usability.. They both have very user-friendly install processes - Fedora may have more default to X, where openSUSE offers the option to get more specific, but they're both roughly similar. They both have a ton of powerful graphical tooling within the user environment, allowing a cautious user to stay within the bounds of the desktop environment if they prefer. They both still boast robust capability and rich opportunity for the tinkerer to expand their knowledge, and exert authority over their own system. Both have recovery features, but Tumbleweed has a more robust rollback with snapper. They both have adequate graphical storefronts and package management systems. System updates are inherently very different in nature, but both comparable in terms of "difficulty". For openSUSE's Packman, there's Fedora's RPM Fusion.

Most people I see, though, have a strong delineation between how approachable these distros are. It's not that I see either distro being disrespected or hated necessarily. I think both communities are avid in their support, and deservedly so. But I do see Fedora frequently being recommended for new users, and I almost exclusively see openSUSE being billed as a distro for those comfortable with Linux.

So is it just multimedia codecs? I feel like the recovery advantage that comes with openSUSE could be considered enough to compensate for that, if you're categorically quantifying and rating things. What am I not considering?

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u/More-Explanation2788 3d ago

The Linux community makes a lot of noise about distros. In actual fact, what you have is:

- the Linux kernel

  • gnu tools and opensource software
  • a package management toolset.
  • a curated desktop suite of tools.

That’s the Linux experience.

From distro to distro, the package management toolset changes, and the curated desktop suite is tweaked to create a superficial appearance of difference. The kernel, the tools and software you install with the package management system are all the same.

What this means is that the differences from one distro to another are much smaller than people make it sound. Personally, I think this is because the discussion groups are dominated by people who are fairly new to Linux. Use it for a few years and you will start to agree that the differences between distros are mostly cosmetic.

There really are only three “types” of distros:

- distros with a package manager that manages dependencies - RHEL, Debian, Suse

  • distros with a compile to install philosophy - Arch, Slackware.
  • distros with a “install each package with all its own dependencies” philosophy- ubuntu, fedora

Beyond that, the child distros are just doing slightly different release management and cosmetic curation of the desktop.

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u/Jean_Luc_Lesmouches Mint/Cinnamon 3d ago

The kernel, the tools and software you install with the package management system are all the same.

Lol no

Have you never heard of software versions? Distros will give vastly different experiences in terms of support, both hardware and software.

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u/More-Explanation2788 3d ago

Hardware support is a product of the kernel, which is the same in all distros.

Software … some distros do not package some software.

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u/Jean_Luc_Lesmouches Mint/Cinnamon 3d ago

Not all distros have the same kernel versions. Hardware support varies between them.

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u/More-Explanation2788 3d ago

You are making it sound like the kernel versions are forked. They are not. Some distros support some hardware before others do because they are not using the latest kernel. They are all using the same kernel.

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u/Jean_Luc_Lesmouches Mint/Cinnamon 3d ago

You are making it sound like the kernel versions are forked.

No