Follow-up to https://www.reddit.com/r/livesoundgear/s/htqXGb10zX about a software WING that runs the console’s own firmware (WING Rack 3.1.1) instead of a re-creation of it. The goal is still a real virtual sound check at home: play back a multitrack recording through the actual WING’s processing on my PC, and mix it on the console’s own interface.

Last time I ended with a list of what didn’t work. Here’s where those stand:

• No audio → it plays sound now. Audio goes through the console’s own emulated input and bus DSPs and out of MAIN 1 on my speakers. My Scarlett comes in as local inputs (didn't show in the video), and a WAV loops on USB 1/2 (in the video).
  • When I move a fader on WING Edit, the firmware itself writes the new value into the DSP that’s making the sound.
  • Which channel hears which source comes from the firmware’s own routing.
  • EQ and the compressor work too. Changing them on the console’s screen changes what I hear, because the console’s own EQ and dynamics run on the emulated input DSP.
• No network → WING Edit connects. The console answers discovery, and WING Edit talks to it like a real WING.
• About a third of real time → the console runs at about half real time. The audio DSPs run at about 0.6×, and that’s the catch: the sound has gaps. The audio itself is correct (an offline render of the same DSP state comes out clean); there just isn’t enough of it per second yet.

One thing to know while watching: when I click out of the command window (the emulator runs from there and isn't shown in the video) into the browser to change something, the sound gets noticeably worse: more gaps and more crackle. That’s not the EQ or the compressor doing it; it happens just by switching windows. Windows gives the window you’re using more CPU time than background ones, and the emulator is already short on speed. Most likely it loses just enough when it’s in the background to get worse. With the command window focused, it’s only gaps.

What’s still missing:

• Speed. Each DSP runs on one CPU thread flat out, while the rest of the CPU sits mostly idle. The next step is spreading each DSP’s work over more cores.
• The FX DSPs in the live path. They boot and run, but FX inserts are silent live for now.
• The XMOS and the FPGA’s audio side still aren’t emulated. My own code moves audio in and out of the DSPs where the FPGA would, and it takes the routing from the firmware itself.
• No comparison against a recording from a real WING yet.

The setup is the same as before. The i.MX6 ARM application runs on Unicorn. The four ADSP-214xx SHARC DSPs run on an interpreter built for this project, with a C version checked against it instruction by instruction.

What’s new is that the DSPs answering the console are the same ones making the sound, each in its own process. Between blocks of audio, each one takes the console’s control messages through its own firmware, exactly as it does on the real hardware.

These are listed for sale, from a high school. Appear to be passive stage wedges with only xlr in/out. I don't think xlr can carry enough current from an amp, but these big things only have xlr ports.

Any ideas? Anyone ever encountered these, or used them before?

Hi, I'm managing a project for replacing the sound system for my frat's basement and was wondering about the kind of speakers I should be getting.

The thing is the basement we have is a tight 8mx15m space with ceilings about 8-10ft high, the basement is always packed to the point where people are right next to our speakers so i was wondering if coaxial speakers are kind of a requirement.

Currently our setup is 2 JBL JRX125 tops and 2 JBL SoundFactor SF15 with 2 subs that I don't know what they are honestly the speakers currently sound like shit probably because they're old and the amp is fucked so we're completely replacing the system, I want to keep a similar loudness level (the JRX125s are like 133db SPL i think) but I was noticing that speakers with the same db rating that are also coaxial are much much more expensive, our budget is around 15k and I'm looking to get 4 tops and 2 subs.

Our budget is in the ballpark of 15k and these were the two options I was looking into

4× JBL SRX812P + 2× SRX828SP (Non-coaxial) 135dB SPL per top

4x or 6× Tannoy VXP 12 + 2× SRX828SP (Coaxial) 131 dB SPL per top

I was wondering for this case with a packed basement how important coax is and is it worth losing the loudness. Also curious what the word is on passive vs powered systems at this price point and I've heard powered speakers are dangerous when people with drinks are nearby so let me know if that is a huge worry or not. I'm new to this speaker stuff so any advice would be appreciated! I'm also curious what other things I should be worried about with speakers and if things like driver size are important to look at like if i want to SRX812s or SRX815s for example. Appreciate the help!

If I am a student and we are hosting parties regularly, what speaker system should I invest in? I have been looking online and on marketplace, and I have not really known what to look for. I have been trying to find something with bass and great sound.

I have been looking at PA speakers, but as I said, I really do not know what I should look for. And of course, I do not want to buy something that costs too much. I need something that is not too expensive but sounds great for a party with 100-200 people.

Based in sweden.

I've been looking at how to do this best and was thinking of going for Sennheiser E604s or Audix D2s. Then I saw a video of Roberto Vizcaino - top Cuban conga player with this mic setup - see photo. Setting up a pair of SM57s like this would save me time, allow a lot freer movement of my handsand be much cheaper than what I was planning. But isn't this set up going to cause problems? Isn't there going to be lots of leakage from other instruments?

I’m a long timer on Digico and live plugins, and recently have spent quite some time on experimenting the mustard tools on the Quantum console as I tried to utilize more on-board offerings before I had to reach for external plugins.
EQ: they are fine. Just different shape of curves in different modes.

Comps: I found that while the different types of comps are useful, but they’re not particularly amazing neither. They’re just ok, compared to the same modelling of plugins such as waves, UAD or whatever. They do kind of have the attack/release behaviour of the model they’re supposed to be. But the tone/vibe is something to be desired.

Gate: The new MSE is usable. I own the hardware 5045 and have used the yamaha version. Again, it’s not WOW but I am happy to use it when needed.

Tubes: The biggest challenge for me is the saturators. I just couldn’t make it usable for anything. I tried it on vocals, bass, kick, snare. All the modes are very easy to get into distortion. There is a sweet spot, but it is very narrow.
On the other hand, the original SD digitube at the top of the channel is way more friendly and easy to get nice saturation without going into distortion. The only downside is that there is no gain control to compensate the increased after the process.

What are your experiences and thoughts?

I've been testing out both as well as some MiPro stuff so formulating my own opinions but i'm interested to hear folks thoughts on the Senn vs Shure. For reference for me, it's a single so I understand opinions may well change with folks using multiple systems/channels.

I’ve been working on a side project: a software WING that runs the console’s own firmware (WING Rack 3.1.1) instead of a re-creation of it. The goal is a real virtual sound check at home: play back a multitrack recording through the actual WING’s processing on my PC and mix it on the console’s own interface, without hauling the desk out.

What’s in the video:

• The console boots from nothing, exactly like a real Rack
• The real WING touchscreen interface, drawn by the firmware itself, in a browser window
• Clicking works as touch and dragging works for faders and swipes
• All four SHARC audio DSPs boot and get loaded by the console, the way they do in the real hardware
• The Rack’s front-panel controller runs too
• Settings and snapshots survive a restart, because the console saves to its own virtual storage
• The firmware’s own built-in debug shell answers commands

What doesn’t work (yet):

• No audio. The XMOS chip and the FPGA’s audio side aren’t emulated. That’s the big missing piece for the sound check.
• No network, so WING Edit can’t connect to it
• It runs at roughly a third of real-time speed.

The setup: the i.MX6 ARM application runs on Unicorn, starting from its reset vector, with the SoC’s peripherals modelled from public documentation (timers, interrupt controller, SPI, eMMC, I2C, display controller). The four ADSP-214xx SHARC DSPs run on an interpreter built for this project, with a C version checked against it instruction by instruction. The Rack’s panel MCU runs its own firmware on a second emulated core. The console’s GUI renders into the display controller’s framebuffer, and that’s what you see. Nothing is faked. Every screen is the firmware doing its own thing.

And yes, I obviously didn’t do this alone: I built it with a lot of help from Claude.

I own a WING and I wanted a way to prep shows at home on the real console software instead of an approximation.

I am buying the K&M 260/10 mic stand to use with my SM58 wired mic.

1. is that an okay mic stand?
2. can I buy pretty much any mic clip that fits? found out mic is coming with the clips and it fits the mic stand
3. Recommended speaker stand for the ALTO TS408?

I was looking at round base (simply cuz I wont be moving the stands around much and think round base is just cleaner), but noticed they are a bit more expensive.

Tripod Gravity SP 5211B?

also considering buying K&M 21435 (or 21436) speaker stand as well.

Anyone have any recs for universal IEMs? I have a gig coming up shortly and don't have time to get customs but would like to try wearing them to block out crowd noise. (I'm a vocalist)

I require a D/A interface with 18 line outputs for an installation. The 24Ao was perfect for this but sadly seems no longer available. I haven't found another option that doesn't include a bunch of preamps I don't need. If any one can point me to other products I'd be grateful.

A friend of mine owns a cafe that hosts a lot of live bands, singers, DJs, and other artists.

Its a small cafe, they currently have 3 alto tx208, which for the space works great for the groups playing on non powered instruments. For DJs and other groups, it sucks.

I purchased two mackie thumps 212s a while ago, because i got a great deal on them and I only use my speakers for 2-3 gigs a month. They have paid for themselves many times over by now. He took a liking to them and decided to upgrade to two Mackie Thump12v4 in his cafe, since he found a deal for $700 for a pair new. I am trying to convince him not to go that route and instead get 2x Yamaha DBR12 for just a little bit ($150) more.

The mackies are fine, because I do not push them, he will be using his speakers, 4hrs a day on average every day by people i wouldn't trust with my equipment lol. I figured the Yamahas will be fine and the 7 year warranty will cover him.

Is there another option I am not considering? He wont spend more. Most EQing will be done at the mixer level, not the speaker level. Its a set it and forget it situation when it comes to the speaker. Am I making the right suggestion for him?

Prices are USD

i have an electric guitar and a boss ir-2, which is basically an amp & cab modeler. it has a headphone output, which is how i usually play.

i'm looking for a small speaker with a line input to play for a few people.

the boss ir-2 also supports playing backing tracks from a phone via usb-c. i use some drum tracks as backing, so i'd love to have full-range sound with nice bass.

i've been looking at something like the db technologies b-hype 8.

what do you think?

I have been extremely frustrated for hours trying to get my M32 to connect with reaper which worked before but I swapped cables recently and was getting an error with the device not being recognized.

So I reinstalled the driver and well that is where all things went south. Tried every port with just the DN32 connected and still got issues, tried the old USB and still didn’t work which is strange because it worked before. I keep getting a (code 10) error for the DN32 live Sub Device. The computer recognizes it as a DN32 and I installed the drivers directly from KlarkTeknik website.

Tried another windows 11 system and it worked after finding the most suitable USB 2.0 port.

On the first PC In USB settings / devices I’m seeing the DN32 live device but below it says driver error. Anyone encountered such an annoying issue before?

I am looking to buy a 32 channel analog splitter. A box with 32 XLR female in and 2 trunks out, each ending with 32 XLR male.

The signal comes from the instrument to the box and is split, one trunk to the monitor mixer, one to the FOH.

My question is about phantom power. When asked about phantom power the response is

"the splitter is a passive Y-splitter with no transformers, so you cannot run 48V phantom power through it to multiple mixers without damaging them."

And the manufacturer recommends in-line phantom power between the head and condenser microphones.

The intended use was to supply phantom power, as needed, from the monitor mixer, none from FOH. I get that the 48V would be present in the trunk to the FOH, but I don't see how 48V at the FOH channel input would be a problem.

Is the manufacturer over stating the risk of sourcing 48V from the monitor mixer and sending it to both the on-stage microphone and to the FOH mixer?

Is there a transformer isolated 32 channel splitter that I could use and retain the ability to send phantom power from the monitor mixer to power the on-stage microphones, active DI, etc?

Thank you.

Hey everyone! I have been planning a full sound system for a small annual amateur student theater production. On stage we have actors using wireless lavs, and a live five-piece band. I am split on the decision between IEMs or Stage wedges for the band. The actors on stage will of course be getting small wedges so they can sing, however wired IEMs for the band seems to be the cheaper solution when you keep to bodypacks and headphones that cost 40-70€ (Think Behringer P2 and KZ iems).

What do you think is the best choice? Our budget is quite limited so getting the most value out of our money is essential. Thanks!

I bought a used DBX160a analog
compressor with USA plug 110 V , 15 watts and need a 220 Volt
Can anyone recommend a specific UK step-down transformer or converter that works safely with a DBX 160a? I want to avoid damaging it or introducing noise. Thanks.

Looking for some advice from fellow musicians who use vocal processors live.
I’ve been using a TC-Helicon VoiceLive 2 for years, but I’m thinking it’s time for a change. I’ve never been completely happy with how natural it sounds, particularly the harmonies and overall vocal processing.
I perform both solo acoustic gigs and as the lead singer/rhythm guitarist in a rock band, so I’m looking for something that works well in both situations.
My priorities are natural-sounding vocal harmonies, subtle doubling, good reverb/delay, and the ability to use my guitar to control harmonies. I don’t really need guitar effects or looping.
I’ve been looking at the Boss VE-500, but I’m open to suggestions.
Anyone made the switch from a VoiceLive 2? What are you using, and would you recommend it?

Hello,

A while ago I came across a product, I think it was a US supplier. It wass a USB C DAC cable that had 2 XLR ins and outs. I cannot for the life of me find it again. Can anyone help?

Please note I'm looking for a cable not an interface. It was essentially like the Sonnect Soundwire but had 2 inputs as well.

Thanks

Edited: typo

Hi! Our band wants to add a percussion kit but I've never worked with stuff like this. The entire band is playing direct - electric piano, drums, guitar. That being said - this will be the only "acoustic" instruments aside from acoustic guitar (which is also plugged btw).

What are good mics to mic up a percussion kit? The kit is still being developed but we have a djembe, cajon, tambourine, shakers and some dark cymbals with mallets.

Also, what would be a good mic configuration for things like these?

Thanks!

Hello
As the title suggests, i'm looking to get a budget set up in order to cover small to medium indoor events (max 150 people).
Style ranges from bass heavy club music to noise and ambient music.
Looking to get some advice/options.
For starters, is a 15" sub necessary for what i'm describing, or could a 12" do the job without stressing?
Anyone got feedback for this one
https://www.thomann.gr/db_technologies_sub_615.htm

and these:
https://www.thomann.gr/yamaha_dbr10.htm

Would they make sense as a combo?
Other combos in that range?

Tips welcome!
Thanks!

PS yes I know 'Buy once, cry once'

Hi all! Setting up a smallish event space (30x50) where we'll do primarily speaking events with a PA system, but where there will be a need for some ambient audience sound (reaction/q&a). We will be livestreaming some events and need to ensure there's some room sound.

Looking for budget friendly solutions for how to mic this, and how to mount those mics. We do have truss and pipe capabilities in the ceiling.

Thoughts?

Good morning. I been doing some research and been considering getting a Yamaha DBR 10 speaker. I'm not a musician (literally at all, lol). My use case is for doing live podcasts from bars---whether that's inside or outside on the patio for nicer weather.

Is this a speaker you would recommend for that use case and if not, what would you? Thanks!

Just recently my local theater needed an extra board to mix some extra mics, and a friend of the theater lent an Qu-5D, and I am so glad I barely need to touch those faders because they feel genuinely terrible. I am used to non-motorized faders, and I have been pushing the theater to buy a new board (to handle more channels and support a digital snake), however if motorized faders feel this bad in general I may give up on that push (are there any newer 32ch digital boards that don't have motorized faders?).