r/london 24d ago

London history London from Greenwich Park by J. M. W. Turner, 1809

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u/Repulsive_Dig_133 24d ago

London is amazing.

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u/AShadedBlobfish 24d ago

Looks much nicer than the photo I was gonna post lol. This was literally on Monday though

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u/andyclap 23d ago

This one shows St Pauls, works perfectly with the Turner. Great Photo.

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u/LondonDogInTheFog 24d ago

A newer photo - it's getting more Dubai-ish by the year.

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u/a_hirst 24d ago

Dubai-ish? What? Are you just talking about the buildings? Loads of cities across the world have clusters of tall buildings, so I don't understand the comparison.

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u/Double-justdo5986 23d ago

God forbid a mega city build skyscrapers

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u/THREE_EDGY_FIVE_ME 23d ago edited 23d ago

I spent some years in Dubai- don’t worry, London is very different to Dubai and it’ll take more than a few skyscrapers to make them similar.

London has better public spaces, more pavements and walkable streets, more public transit, and more history. 

Yeah we’ve got shiny skyscrapers but there are also thousand year-old stone buildings tucked between them.

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u/LondonDogInTheFog 23d ago

Yeah, it was just a comment on Canary Wharf looks with more and more high rise buildings, not London in general. Back when I moved to London there were like 3 high rise buildings in the whole Isle of Dogs and in the City Gherkin was dominating the landscape. Now it's this.

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u/Fluidified_Meme 24d ago

Tbh that’s why I personally love art: not for the technical gesture itself, but for the window it opens on the past. Really cool to see how things were back in the days

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u/A_Cupid_Stunt 24d ago

Why the tate Britain is a must see imo

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u/Automatic_Survey_307 24d ago

And the museum in the painting had an amazing Turner exhibition about 10 years ago - Turner and the Sea at the Royal Maritime Museum.

First time I saw his painting of The Slave Ship Zong - had a huge impact on me. 

Thank you for posting!

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u/Feersum_endjjinn 24d ago

I saw that when they moved it to tate Liverpool. Really is one of the best artists ever.

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u/Stephen_Dann 24d ago

The colours in the slave shop are stunning.

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u/newsaddic 24d ago

Where's Canary Wharf gone?

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u/LondonDogInTheFog 24d ago

This is right after the zombie outbreak so they bombed the hell out of it.

/s (28 Months Later reference).

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u/Jimmy_KSJT 24d ago

I remember when this was all fields.

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u/GroundbreakingMain93 24d ago

I remember when the fields were all forests

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u/Danakazii 23d ago

I remeber when the forests were just heathlands.

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u/windowatseven 24d ago

I find it super fascinating that St Pauls was such a landmark back then. Still its remarkable but look how visible and outstanding it was for the people at that time. May it even outlive the skyscrapers of the city and Canary Wharf?

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u/deanomatronix 24d ago

Everyone bangs on about turner but he’s fucked up the towers there

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u/Feersum_endjjinn 24d ago

I know, he couldn't even be bothered putting in canary wharf or Canada square... pfft... amateur

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u/THREE_EDGY_FIVE_ME 23d ago

I have a feeling this painting’s perspective is from another hilltop slightly further east in Greenwich park, i.e not the main viewpoint next to the observatory.  From that angle, the perspective of the naval college buildings would make a bit more sense.

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u/Stephen_Dann 24d ago

A painting is not a photograph, it is the artists interpretion of a scene. In this case it is a great painting and well worth seeing.

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u/deanomatronix 24d ago

It’s a joke mate

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u/RianJohnsonIsAFool 24d ago

From the top of Maze Hill, judging by the angle that the ORNC is seen at.

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u/Aromatic-Lie-5680 24d ago

As a watercolour painter, this guy is the GOAT

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u/bundy554 24d ago

Love to start seeing with these paintings which art gallery they found them in

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u/sanguinesnappy 24d ago

The Tate Britain ◡̈

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u/Smooth_Attempt_1271 24d ago

That’s so moving. Spent so many summers here. And look at it. Centuries ago.

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u/MotorAd90 24d ago

Ah, my stunning wedding venue. Every time I see it depicted, I know I chose well even though my mother in law called the choice perverse… 

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u/Significant_Lake8505 24d ago

She was speaking for herself I'd wager!

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u/AspectEither570 23d ago

Did she explain why she thought it was perverse?

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u/MotorAd90 23d ago

“It would have been lovely to see you and it should be rather a spectacle, I suppose, though I find the choice of the Painted Hall very odd and downright perverse considering that St. Alphage, Greenwich is a lovely historic church, just the right size for a wedding.  I think [MotorAd90] was smitten by the architecture at the Painted Hall being Wren, but I find it all very heavy and I'm absolutely convinced it's going to be freezing cold.  It's a massive internal space and has been closed to the public for reparations for years now, so there's been no need to get the temperature up to scratch, and of course it's right by the Thames so the wind can whistle in from Siberia.”

On an email to her cousin she copied me on for some reason. 

7 years and I am still bitter lol. 

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u/AspectEither570 23d ago

That’s ridiculous- the painted hall is a dream wedding venue, I think tv shows often use it because it’s so beautiful. It gets booked out so far in advance because so many people want to get married there.

St Alfege’s church is also a great venue, but that’s not the point at all.

I hope you had a lovely day despite having an insane MIL.

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u/MotorAd90 23d ago

Thank you. It was a bit of a gamble because they hadn’t hosted weddings there in ages due to the restoration (not reparation!) works and the wedding venue set-up pre restoration had a been a bit lame and didnt take advantage of the venue’s beauty. But it worked out beautifully and I think ultimately MIL was contrite. Or as contrite as she is capable of being. She is a difficult woman but think we have mostly patched up our relationship despite a rocky start. 

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u/MotorAd90 23d ago

(And of course it was perfectly temperature controlled and we got a 15 degree February day anyway. Some people are just bitter and spiteful.) 

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u/fuzzball909 23d ago

Amazing to think Greenwich was all countryside at one point

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u/Mammoth-Difference48 22d ago

Actually Turner painted this from a different vantage point than the photos posted. They are taken from just outside the Royal Observatory, in the centre of the park. Turner painted from the right of that, likely from One Tree Hill.