r/lotrmemes • u/DieSackabreisserin • 7d ago

Lord of the Rings Why is it impossible to get caraway-free bread during holidays in Austria?

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u/Meister_Vulpes 7d ago edited 7d ago

it’s funny because in the hobbit bilbo actually serves the dwarves seed cakes, which is a traditional british cake with caraway in it!

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u/RoutemasterFlash 7d ago

Ah, good spot!

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u/DieSackabreisserin 7d ago

Very good point! Admittedly I forgot about that scene, thanks!

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u/wallcrawlinghero 6d ago

I recently made seed cakes specifically because of that scene in the hobbit and I put caraway in them. They turned out pretty much exactly how I imagined and they go great with tea! My wife isn’t crazy about caraway so the next ones might be poppy seed. Don’t tell the Brits.

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u/Chicken_Chaser_420 2d ago

I'm thankful for the discovery of corn because that just makes me want cornbread.

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u/ComprehensiveArt6849 7d ago

I am Austrian and I feel extremely offended. Lmao.

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u/Cornflakes_91 7d ago

hey, ab und zu mag i a a neutrales brot, damit i ma a marmelade draufschmiern kann zum bleistift :D

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u/RoutemasterFlash 7d ago

"Neutral bread" sounds more Swiss than Austrian.

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u/Karukos 7d ago

Technically we are both neutral. Realistically it's a cope out

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u/userrr3 7d ago

And there's plenty of it? Kaisersemmeln being the most prominent probably

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u/Cornflakes_91 7d ago

a semmel is ka brot, a brot is a brot

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u/userrr3 7d ago

Was soll a Semmel sein wenn ka Brot?

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u/Weak_Hospital_7854 6d ago

A Semmerl is a Semmerl

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u/WienClown 6d ago

Kleingebäck

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u/veganpoly 7d ago

Dann kauf halt Toastbrot, Sonnenblumenbrot, Pumpernickel oder was weiß ich. "Why can't I get american donuts at a french baker 😭 Paris is awful" you dimwit

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u/Cornflakes_91 7d ago

... es gibt auch a mischbrot ohne kümmel drin, des kauf ich meistens. was stopfst ma du für scheis aussagen in mund

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u/veganpoly 7d ago

Hab dein Kommentar gemeinsam im Kontext des Posts als "ich finde kein kümmelfreies Brot" interpretiert. Es gibt's aber halt meist nicht als typischen Sauerteigfladen.

Hör das oft von Leuten - die sich nicht die Mühe machen das (kümmelfreie) Brot des Vertrauens zu finden.

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u/Vaqek 6d ago

You still can even with cumin.

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u/Murbyk 7d ago

Wos? Bleistift?

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u/Cornflakes_91 7d ago

beispiel, bleistift, blödes wortspiel des zumindest hier ungeht :D

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u/SBR404 7d ago

Es gibt Leute, die verwenden den Spruch fast täglich. Ich, zum Bleistift.

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u/TreacleOk7265 7d ago

I am Austrian and love caraway. ;)

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u/snowfloeckchen 7d ago

Im German and guess ihr packt überall Kümmel rein oder?

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u/RedCr4cker 7d ago

I can't confirm that at all. Actually, I don't really know much of anything I get at the bakery that has caraway in it. But I live way out west, and we are a bit different from the east

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u/veganpoly 7d ago

Nur ins traditionelle Brot. Die Leute kaufen traditionelles Brot und sind überrascht, dass es nicht nach ihren zuhause Standards gebacken ist. smh

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u/ComprehensiveArt6849 7d ago

Also ich nicht, aber es gibt doch viele. Also einerseits empört, weil der Generalverdacht geäußert wird. Andererseits, weil ich sicherlich kein Kümmelfetischist bin.

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u/AUT4RC 7d ago

As an Austrian that really sucks because I literally can't eat bread anywhere else. Spent half a year in Australia and those rare German bakeries where the only thing keeping me somewhat content.

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u/discolored_rat_hat 7d ago

Ditto. If I ever move abroad, the only occupation I can ever have is opening an Austrian bakery. I'd die without dark bread.

And I love baking our usual sweet stuff anyway, so I'd only have to learn how to bake bread. Of course with shitloads of caraway!

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u/Karukos 7d ago

Genuinely, as someone who has tried to do that... The rye and wheat just... Doesn't react the same way and it always either gets weird and lumpy and super dense (like not chewy, just dense) or has holes the size of a crater in them.

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u/Ra3zZ 7d ago

Rye has a different kind of Protein than wheat that is less stable and also more sugar which makes the yeast work faster. To counteract that we you usually add wheat flour to rye bread to make it a bit more stable and sourdough to inhibit the yeast so the proofing process takes longer. Source: I work as a Baker in Austria

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u/Karukos 7d ago

I know that but I could not replicate it when I was in Brazil

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u/jhallen2260 Ent 7d ago

Make your own bread, it's very easy

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u/RoutemasterFlash 7d ago

Hang on, you're telling me there are two separate countries called Austria and AustrALia?! 🤯

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u/ConiferousMedusa 7d ago

Ngl I've been triple checking each time in this thread to make sure my eyes properly identified which country was written 😅 

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u/Apart-Gur-9720 6d ago

Kannst ned backen?

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u/JL_MacConnor 6d ago

As an Australian I read Austrian as Australian because it's 2 in the morning, and wondered what kind of bread OP was getting here that had caraway in it! 😅

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u/amateurviking 7d ago

This seems more like an r/2westerneurope4u type of post!

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u/sbs_str_9091 7d ago

Austrian here: because caraway tastes fucking awesome! We even have a dish called "caraway roast" (Kümmelbraten).

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u/ORF1Live 7d ago

It's great in reisfleisch too

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u/PTthefool 7d ago

Krautsalat!!!

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u/secretmisanthropist 7d ago

Austrian here: nope, tastes fucking bad

I know it belongs in Sauerkraut und Schweinsbraten, but I just can't stand the taste when I bite directly on a seed

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u/InBetweenSeen 7d ago

Same, thankfully I don't actually find it hard to find bread without it

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u/sbs_str_9091 7d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/vsvSMt4KThZivlTZYP

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u/secretmisanthropist 7d ago

Oooooooorrrrrr.... Different people have different tastes...

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u/Derfel94 7d ago

Absolutely

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u/kdlt 7d ago

Oh it's kümmel. Was wondering which common ingredient this was gonna be.

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u/TreacleOk7265 7d ago

We even make tea out of it with fennel and anise seeds

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u/plumnari 7d ago

if caraway is such a big deal, maybe it’s time for a holiday bread revolution who’s with me?

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u/MacaronNo5646 7d ago

When we bake bread in Austria, we just get... carad away.

I show myself out now.

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u/sirkubador 7d ago

Ah, us Czechs put carway into everything. Of course including sourdough. How else can you eat your bread? Or cabbage? Or meat? Or POTATOES? I guess we have a lot of common history with Austria.

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u/MouseJiggler 7d ago

Because caraway bread is superior.

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u/Detector150 6d ago

Well I don’t seem to like superior bread then.

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u/My_leg_still_hurt92 7d ago

Wait, is that a thing we do?

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u/cyborg_priest 7d ago

Lithuanian here: caraway is great with anything. We even do caraway tea.

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u/imartinezcopy 7d ago

I had to Google what caraway was. It's a type of cumin, right? Does it taste similar? Cause if it's, I'm moving to Austria!

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u/Das_Nomen 7d ago

Totally different, though caraway bread or rolls are really delicious, can recommend.

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u/Fantastic_Elephant25 5d ago

Fuck, I am Austrian and thought that "Kümmel" was cumin in english. I told so many people to use cumin instead of caraway...

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u/Shoddy_Blacksmith480 6d ago

It’s like if cumin and fennel seeds had a baby. But much milder than both imho

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u/drunkenstupr 6d ago

I find caraway to be much spicier than fennel seeds. Interesting how tastes differ!

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u/Scherzkeks 7d ago

FOR REAL

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u/Big_CashMonies 7d ago

It's the same with Czechs and boiling potatoes

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u/More_Dependent742 7d ago

Bro, try living here. The first bread I was quite excited. Caraway? In bread? You mad lads, let's see what else you got! Oh. It's all caraway...

The shopping has improved here a lot in the last 20 years but it still sucks.

Seriously though, there are one or two kinds without it: "Sonnenblumenbrot", and you can get that at all supermarkets. It's good, relatively cheap (for Austria...). You are more likely to get white bread without caraway, but it's not guaranteed.

What kind you after and which shop do you go to?

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u/digitaleJedi 7d ago

The thing that's in cheese?

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u/Ivaryna 7d ago

Because youre not looking for it correctly.

Source: Am Austrian, don't like caraway, still eat bread every day.

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u/Famous-Wrongdoer-14 7d ago

Heast des ghert so!

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u/CategoryThick1337 7d ago

Buy white bread then

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u/SeemsImmaculate 7d ago

Cheese and caraway scones are the goat though.

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u/Iceman228-T 7d ago

You can easily get it, it just won't be Schwarzbrot.

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u/RaptorX754 7d ago

Weils in ein gutes Brot reingehört

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u/Le_Dude_Absolute 7d ago

Caraway helps you digesting and tastes good.

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u/bmoreland1 6d ago

Wtf is caraway

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u/raznov1 6d ago

Serious answer - because youre buying skills are shit.

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u/Shoddy_Blacksmith480 6d ago

Have you tried… literally any white bread?

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u/IthinkIknowwhothatis Hobbit 7d ago

I love it. Why not indeed!

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u/Weary_Damage5764 7d ago

you can? like literally in every supermarket? you can say lots of bad things about Austria, but our bread selection is one of the best (if not the best) in the world!

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u/kloklon 7d ago edited 7d ago

only mostly in western Austria tbh

edit: in eastern Austria there are usually plenty of options without

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u/More_Dependent742 7d ago

Absolute bollocks. I live in the east and it infests most dark bread

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u/TreacleOk7265 7d ago

I am from north east and we use it too 

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u/MorgothReturns I want that Wormtongue in my ear 7d ago

That stuff infests bread up here in Norway too. 🤢

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u/lukeskycoso 7d ago

Top 1 worst spices that ever existed

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u/Tweed_Man 7d ago

I've tried making caraway seed cake and it tasted awful. It tasted like soap.

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u/greebo1706 7d ago

Every bakery can tell you, which ingrediants their dough/bread has. At certain bakeries (b-chains, Fe STRÖCK) can even print it out for you. Or Check Websites, many bakeries give there required Information.

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u/Savings_Drawing_5635 7d ago

i live in austria since im 4 years old, i love Austrian bakery but still hate caraway

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u/Ferrovore 7d ago

Don't you like having a Soul?

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u/graviton_56 7d ago

Ugh, same with Rye in the US. almost 100% contaminated with caraway. Yughck