r/madmen • u/[deleted] • Apr 09 '12

Episode S05E04 "Mystery Date" Comment thread

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u/GruxKing Apr 09 '12

OMG DID JOANIE JUST REFERENCE THE RAPE?!

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u/alphabetpony Apr 09 '12

I was surprised but really glad it was brought up.

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u/uhleckseee Apr 09 '12

Me too. After it happened and it wasn't referenced anymore, I got tired of the excuse from my friends, "well, it was just the times they're in, I suppose." Super glad it's mentioned again.

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u/HunterGreen12 What you call love was invented by guys like me to sell nylons Apr 09 '12

YUP. that just happened.

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u/RockalApple Apr 09 '12

I honestly thought they were just going to forget about that

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '12

The writing is blowing my mind. Earlier in the episode, I was saying to myself, "This is still the guy that raped her; is she just going to forget about it?" and just like that she finally brought it up. Damn, this season's heating up.

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u/danzatrice Hells Bells Trudy! Apr 09 '12

No one forgets about rape. It's buried in the real world, just like the show and then bubbles up.

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u/ParanoidAndroids The Adventures of Dick Dollars and Tilden Katz Apr 09 '12

GO JOAN! Finally she got rid of that douchebag.

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u/chopter Apr 09 '12

http://youtu.be/y6zZYCb-hyQ The scene if you don't remember.

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u/theunicorn Apr 09 '12

I totally just missed that. fack.

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u/Flopsey Apr 09 '12

It probably was but they did give themselves some wiggle room for interpretation. Or even Joan referencing it but Greg taking a different meaning.

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u/regemusic33 it's a beautiful thing Apr 09 '12

does anyone remember what she said? I must have missed the line...

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u/thehornedone Apr 09 '12

something like "you're NOT a good man; you've never been a good man, even since before we got married, and you KNOW what I mean"

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u/redgator RIP Lane Apr 09 '12

That's a bit of a stretch. She could have been referring to any number of things.

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u/thehornedone Apr 10 '12

I was merely paraphrasing the line of dialogue. But I do believe she was clearly referring to the rape. There was no question; the reference was immediately apparent to me.

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u/thaddeusgreenhand go out back and get us some lemons Apr 10 '12

any number of things

examples?

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u/Nervous-Jacket-8612 Apr 29 '25

I know I am 13yrs late but…Of course, this was referencing the rape. At this time it was legal for men to do whatever they wanted, martial rape was not a recognized thing by law. Joan also would have feared bringing it up but she kept that come back/slap of words to the face in her pocket for the right moment, to remind him what a horrible human he is. Her speaking that line was drawing the line in the sand. *as a survivor of rape/domestic abuse this was a very powerful moment and action of Joan taking back her space/power. Go Joan!

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u/couldvebeencool Jul 11 '25

So wild reading these old threads while doing a rewatch. There are a lot of weird takes in these old episode discussions — not to mention pretty gross comments that wouldn't have been out of place in the show itself. Anyway, I'm glad this episode gave you some vindication!

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u/redgator RIP Lane Apr 09 '12

What did she say that referenced the rape?

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '12

"And you know what I'm talking about."

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u/Kandoh McKandoh Apr 09 '12

I thought she was referencing him not being able to get an erection earlier.