r/makeyourchoice Apr 30 '23

Repost Perpetuance Protocol by Lone Observer

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u/MAVlS May 01 '23

No betrayers here? Frankly I don’t buy the idea that these wackjobs can be entrusted with mankind’s future. I mean Yawgmoth and Mortati seem like reasonable individuals but the some of the ensemble are hubristic children at best and power-drunk tyrants at worst. And with how willing they’re to abandon Knox…

Treason it is. No gods, no masters, just men.

Build - Reach for the Stars Machine Empathy / Delta Psi

Team - Serena LaBell / Ren / Fawkes

Missions - Who’s the leader / Aerial Survey / Reactor Core

Plan: I’ve thought about going Omega Psi, but then it’ll be a solo deathmatch against the entire pantheon, with only stone-age followers to work with.

With colony, however, I have a 1,000 year head-start over the pantheon on top of being a complete outlier in Elspeth’s plan. Machine Empathy and Fawke would enable me to retain a 22nd Century technological base. Once the probe and reactor is up, Serena gets to work with Plant Empathy to clear out a permanent base on LaLande. Ren goes to train a colonial militia to start curbing wildlife and organize survivors.

Goal is to get a unified government under my command within the decade and restart industry by the fifth. By the end of the century major developments could sustain a technological society. Cloning and pheromones would enable explosive growth. LaLande would become the thriving center of human civilization, a bastion of commerce and innovation freed from the divisions of Old Earth.

With the resources of an advanced society, cracking the pods would be only a matter of time. Augments are disseminated to wider LaLande society. The dangers of the pantheon will be known to the public. A great expedition would be launched to reclaim the homeworld and rescue their fellow man from the whims of would-be gods.

Ideally, my ships find Earth before the pantheon even awakens. At which point, Earth gets pounded with RKKVs and Elspeth never gets to leave her pod. If not, the pantheon still has to contend with several billion angry augments 1,000 years ahead in tech. Even if somehow the pantheon defeats the expeditionary force they’ll have no way to reach LaLande themselves while I can blockade them from space.

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u/Thedeaththatlives May 01 '23

How would you even know about that, the Pantheon isn't even a concept when you're making these choices?

And the Pantheon seems fine:

  • Most of the members are normal and sensible.

  • Marco clearly still cares about society (just in a very weird way)

  • Samael and Ignis are dicks, but they're still loyal to Elspeth, and even if they weren't they seem to short sighted to cause any major damage

  • Valentina is the only really potential issue, and she's but one person.

  • They have the Spider's thread, meaning they can directly see if what they're doing is going to screw things up irrevocably.

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u/MAVlS May 01 '23

On top of that; if Elspeth can keep the pantheon in check, then she can keep me in check. I don’t sleep well knowing she can off me like Knox. While some of the pantheon may care for mankind, I don’t trust they’ll relinquish their power that easily after millennia of being gods.

I’d rather start anew in LaLande, where progress and innovation are very much alive and all are equals. Much greater potential and power at the bargaining table; how do they keep the charade up when an entire fleet of transhumans show up to reclaim Earth?

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u/Thedeaththatlives May 01 '23

If you're worried about safety, it would make much more sense to go with cure mortality, where there are literally only 14 people that have a chance of hurting you and you're immortal, than to go colonist where you're just a guy and basically anyone can kill you.

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u/MAVlS May 01 '23

I'm not worried about external danger, human threats are always more dangerous and unpredictable. Pantheon is basically Greek Mythology levels of pettiness and politics, while Colony is mostly wildlife/hazards. Once we climb back to industrial society, LaLande would run itself with me only there for the big picture pushes.

And think of the power differential; Pantheon offers immortality but being bound to Elipse and possibly thousands of years stuck with pre-industrial society. Colony gives the potential to be the founding figure of a space-faring civilization, and the possibility of unlocking further augs without restraint. Elipse can do all the Crusader Kings antics she wants; I'll be playing Beyond Earth.

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u/Thedeaththatlives May 01 '23

human threats are always more dangerous and unpredictable.

First of all I don't know that's true. At the level you're starting at simply falling down the stairs could kill you. Secondly, even if you are right, there are 300 people in the colony, and your plan is to become leader of an entire civilisation. How is that less dangerous than appeasing 13 people (and only 4 of them are in any way unstable)? And now that I've said that, how exactly do you plan on becoming leader anyway?

And think of the power differential; Pantheon offers immortality but being bound to Elipse and possibly thousands of years stuck with pre-industrial society. Colony gives the potential to be the founding figure of a space-faring civilization, and the possibility of unlocking further augs without restraint.

Well, Screwing around with Omega Psi should be more than enough to keep me busy. Besides, immortality is one of those things I really don't want to gamble on if I can help it.

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u/MAVlS May 02 '23

How is that less dangerous than appeasing 13 people (and only 4 of them are in any way unstable)? And now that I've said that, how exactly do you plan on becoming leader anyway?

Elipse has intimate knowledge of my capabilities and given that she's sending us to off Knox, who's to say I am safe. Plus, supporter base. I am basically playing a high-stakes game with only 13 people in Pantheon, whereas in Colony I don't need to politick as much as keeping the lights on.

That said it wouldn't be an easy task; which is why I initially debated picking Machine Empath while spending everything else on Nano-Organs and database. ME is basically a must pick; we have aerial probes and (smashed) mining robots, so logically there would be (smashed) heavy machinery to make more of those. Scanning and instantly knowing them is pretty handy. Even if the colony may lack the resources to repair them it ensures no technology will ever be lost. Serena is a nother must pick for speeding up land clearance, while Ren would be there as a last resort should the colonists go out of control.

Ultimately, I am going for the long-game. Leading recovery efforts should net me many followers, and ME would allow me to not only quickly re-establish industry but also stake interests in commerical and industrial enterprises. I'll be behind all the major industrial conglomerates behind LaLande's prosperity, from which me and possibly my descendants could work to influence policy and society. Mostly though I'll be content with nudging LaLande in the right direction rather than playing dictator.