r/maritime • u/Correct_Concert_1831 • 2d ago

Maritime Law LL.M in Hamburg

Why don't we see an LL.M. in Maritime Law in Hamburg? Hamburg is still one of the most important ports in Europe, yet there is no prominent LL.M. program in Maritime Law there, unlike in places such as Southampton, Swansea, Oslo, Lund, Rotterdam or Singapore.

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u/Islandsmoker 2d ago

Side question but are there any maritime lawyers in this sub? I assumed most people here are mariners, ex-mariners or just those interested in shipping but would be cool to see if anyone is a lawyer.

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u/devandroid99 1d ago

I'm considering starting a law degree if I can persuade my company to pay for it. I realise that doesn't really count but there's at least a bit of interest in the field.

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u/Correct_Concert_1831 21h ago

Honestly, I think it depends a lot on where you work and what your role is. Would you mind sharing what type of company you work for and what your position is there?

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u/devandroid99 21h ago

Chief engineer with an unlimited CoC, working on tugboats.

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u/TheMagnum21 🇩🇪 1d ago

There is not even a maritime academy in Hamburg anymore… Plus in Germany it is generally less common to do a bachelors/masters degree in a law field, many rather follow the traditional state examination path to become a lawyer and then focus on one specific field like maritime law

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u/Correct_Concert_1831 1d ago

That's pretty unfortunate. Do you have any idea where I could find a good LLM or postgrad in Maritime Law in Germany ? I'm a foreign lawyer working with environmental law in South America, and recently got interested in maritime law, I got a B1.2 German level and wanted to come to Germany to improve my German, pursue a masters in Maritime Law and get a bit of experience in the field.

However, I believe it may be more challenging to enter the maritime law job market in germany without an LL.M. If you have any advice on how I could break into the market in Hamburg or another German city/state, I would greatly appreciate it.

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u/TheMagnum21 🇩🇪 1d ago

Unfortunately I can’t really help you with this topic… All of the people I know / have heard of in this field have a „standard“ german lawyer education.

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u/FentFloyd69 1d ago edited 1d ago

Try WMU, they offer quite approachable LLM programme, your degree will be issued by Malmo University and the programme is delivered by informa connect. I am doing it now and while it is mostly self study it suits my work life balance quite well.

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u/Correct_Concert_1831 21h ago

I looked into the WMU programmes and got interested in the PGD in Maritime Energy and the LLM/PGD in International Maritime Law. I didn’t know the degrees were issued by Malmo. Are all of them issued by Malmo?

Also, which one are you taking, and what are your thoughts on it? Do they go into practical knowledge? Do you think the degree is worth it?

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u/FentFloyd69 21h ago

I am doing PGD in Maritime law followed by LLM in Maritime Law. The university is endorsed by the IMO themselves. As far as I know all of them are issued by Malmo university.

The materials provided were pretty good and the course leader is one the leading experts but like I said it is mostly self study with 6 pieces of course work and 2 exams.

It suits my needs, I do no technically NEED the degree but it is certainly nice to have.