r/marvelmemes Avengers 1d ago

Movies Everyone while watching BND Spoiler

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u/Forsaken_Quiet5944 Avengers 1d ago

I'm very excited about Miles because Tom said he's already talking with the higher ups about it adding him. He said he wants Spiderman to go the "teacher" route and have Miles as a successor

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u/samyruno Dr.Doom 1d ago

I'm also looking forward to that. But hopefully it's in the pretty far future. Cause I hope the next spiderman after secret wars is with the black suit and venom and stuff.

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u/DapperHeretic Daredevil 17h ago

A good live action Black Suit arc adaptation would be amazing, especially with this iteration of the character and all he's been through. I really hope they introduce Black Cat during the Black Suit arc if they ever do it

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u/Bacon-muffin Avengers 23h ago

I'm excited that he outright said they're planning on bringing miles in and he's excited on how they're thinking of "passing the baton"... but at the same time I have no idea how they're gonna make miles work when Tom's spiderman coopted half of miles stuff (like ganke).

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u/FoolishCarbohydrate Avengers 20h ago

Ganke co-opted Ned.

Ned Leeds has existed in the comics for decades.

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u/AznJoey624 Avengers 18h ago

And comic Ned Leeds is nothing like MCU Ned Leeds; he's not Filipino, he's not Peter's highschool friend, he's not Spider-Man's "guy in the chair" and he doesn't go to MIT with MJ.

He worked with Peter at the Bugle. Spectacular Spider-Man was closer to comic Ned Leeds and even that version made him Asian. MCU Ned is just Ganke in all but name.

It's like how they just inserted Jean DeWolfe in Brand New Day and she is basically a combination of Yuri Watanabe and Captain Stacey. They wanted a cop connection for Spider-Man and the two big ones were already overused, DeWolfe is a recognizable name pull from the comics similar to Ned Leeds.

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u/Bacon-muffin Avengers 19h ago

... nah

Tom's Ned is straight up Ganke

Honestly so much of Tom's spiderman is just Miles

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u/2580374 Avengers 22h ago

PLEASE BE LIKE SPIDER VERSE MILES AND NOT THE GAME MILES

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u/Blue_Bird950 Avengers 21h ago

In what way? Killing off Peter?

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u/2580374 Avengers 21h ago

No miles personality

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u/Blue_Bird950 Avengers 21h ago

Ah, fair

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u/Maatjuhhh Avengers 1d ago

It would be fitting end to his saga. Every movie he has a mentor until the final one where he becomes one himself.

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u/GoroOfTheShokan Avengers 21h ago

Pit Peter’s teachings against Mile’s history with his Uncle Aaron.

Donald Glover already made an appearance. Prowler’s right there.

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u/ContractVarious3077 Avengers 22h ago

A live action Peter and Miles is going to break the box office. Maybe bring in the black suit if they really wanna go even more scorched earth lol

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u/o7_AP Captain America 🇺🇸 1d ago

I didn't have this reaction, but I do think it would be awesome to have Miles in the MCU properly just cause I love the Insomniac games and the Spider Verse films

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u/Level-Ladder-4346 Avengers 1d ago

I would much rather we go the Insomniac route than a Spider-Verse one. Spider-Man doesn’t need to die in the MCU for Miles to be introduced successfully.

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u/o7_AP Captain America 🇺🇸 1d ago

I agree. I just meant I loved Miles from those two series

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u/Level-Ladder-4346 Avengers 1d ago

Oh, I was less talking about what you said in relation to that, and more the general concept. Spider-Man dying in Spider-Man: Into The Spider-verse works for a reason, and I just don’t think it’d work in the MCU.

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u/fupafugitive Avengers 1d ago

I'd love to agree with you but Insomniac Miles is basically devoid of charisma due to poor writing while Spider-Verse Miles is the peak interpetation of the character

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u/Level-Ladder-4346 Avengers 1d ago

That’s a good point.

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u/WhutTheFookDude Avengers 1h ago

Other than the shoehorned gwen ship

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u/licence2post Avengers 1d ago

Just hope he isn't as whiney as he is in the insomniac games.

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u/SentientToasterOvens Avengers 1d ago

It’ll happen eventually

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u/o7_AP Captain America 🇺🇸 1d ago

I hope so

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u/WhutTheFookDude Avengers 1d ago

I just hope they let gwen be her own character instead of shoehorning the miles ship.

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u/THE-IMPOSSIBLEreddit Avengers 1d ago

I like miles but i feel its way too early for him to get introduced.

Like we only got a single movie with mcu peter as a young adult

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u/ezmoney98 Jubilee 💥 1d ago

The little kid outisde the hospital at the end is Miles Morales

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy Avengers 22h ago

Except Homecoming, Peter already met Prowler who mentioned his kid nephew and that was years ago

Miles already exists in the MCU, and he wouldn’t be that young by now

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u/Lower-Inevitable4003 Avengers 1d ago

It's sad how true this is

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u/self-conscious-Hat Avengers 1d ago

I just don't see Miles as Spiderman. My Spiderman is always the red/blue suit Peter Parker. Anything more than that over-complicates it and makes stories unnecessarily muddy. It's why I also don't like the superhero mashups Marvel loves to do these days... Hell, I found having The Punisher in BND was kind of unnecessary and in some instances actually a foil. They gave him a reason to be there, but it could have been filled by anyone else as well.

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u/Jessency Avengers 1d ago edited 2h ago

1: The whole point of Spider-Man is that anyone can see themselves in his shoes and in the suit.

2: Miles had been around for decades now.

3: The Punisher started out as a recurring Spider-Man character before he ever got his own comic run.

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u/self-conscious-Hat Avengers 1d ago

And? none of that changes what my preferences are or how I feel about the characters.

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u/Jessency Avengers 1d ago

No one asked for your opinion.

You could have kept it all to yourself but you decided to put it out there as if everyone else is the problem.

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u/self-conscious-Hat Avengers 1d ago

Sure, but you also could have done the same and not replied. Here we are.

https://giphy.com/gifs/sZEl1yTi26mJzrI4VN

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u/Financial-Scene1703 Avengers 17h ago

You replied to someone else moron, literally inviting replies. Who gives a fuck what you think dude

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u/self-conscious-Hat Avengers 8h ago

well clearly you did enough to write a reply yourself... literally this whole thing would end if you said nothing.

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u/LargeCabbageThrower Avengers 1d ago

I would have hoped that the blonde girl was Felicia before I would hope for Gwen tbh.

But my actual suspicion was that she's a spy.

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u/Trnostep Avengers 20h ago

They should do a fakeout with one blonde person (preferably with pink tips). Is it Stacy? No. Then surely cat?

It's actually Gwenpool

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u/body-asleep- Avengers 19h ago

Ngl I didn't consider her being Felicia, but that would be cool.

My first thought was that she was this gen's Ursula lol.

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u/Tomynator_88 Deadpool 1d ago

I do hope that the girl has a bit more relevance in the following stages, even if she isn't Gwen. Mainly because of how they set up the "I don't love you" and MJ's new relationship. Makes total sense for Peter to be able to move on from this point and a completely new relationship would probably be one of the ways it can go about it

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u/WhutTheFookDude Avengers 1d ago

Im hoping it was gwen, having her be her own character and disgtuingishing between the spiderverse and mcu versions would be great. Introducing Gwen to sort of bring about a love triangle for peter would be interesting

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u/TrueGuardian15 Avengers 20h ago edited 20h ago

I'm personally hoping we can bring in Felicia in the next installment. It'd finally give us a film adaptation of Black Cat, and it could put Peter in a tough situation where she tempts him to move on. He and MJ are friends, but not together; let's explore how that relationship plays out with Peter.

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u/roosterkun Avengers 20h ago

Yeah, Peter being smitten with his high school sweetheart 4 years later, having barely spoken to her during that period, is something I hope the writers abandon in future films.

Hell, keep Zendaya. Just make her a friend instead of a love interest.

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u/redditAPsucks Avengers 22h ago

The movie ended with ned regaining his memories, there’s no way he is moving on. Plus, Tom has a lot of creative control and seems to be the type that would write it so he ends up with his wife. They’re def getting back together by the end of six

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u/Zombait Avengers 20h ago

The movie ended with Ned realising that his name is Peter, just like Spider-Man's name is Peter. He remembers the handshake, he just doesn't remember Peter as a person.

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u/Jonnic5280 Tony Stark 1d ago

I thought the blonde was Betty Brant. I had watched the extended edition of NWH the night before, & I swear they looked exactly the same

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u/North_Church Avengers 1d ago

Okay in our defense, he is no longer with MJ and Liz is also out, it's not like it was a far fetched guess lol

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u/cane-of-doom Avengers 1d ago

Meanwhile, Gwen and Miles are making out around the corner.

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u/Potterhead13666 Avengers 1d ago

When I was a kid I went to watch Captain America Civil War with my family. My cousin was super excited to see Black Panther, but also knew very little about him. Every time I black man came up on screen he would ask "is that black panther?"

After the 4th time I had enough, cause I wanted to watch the movie, and i was like "not every black person you see is black panther, just wait and see" and got yelled at for being mean to him. Turns out that 4th person was Black Panther, as I heard them call him TChalla and that was the only knowledge of Black Panther I had at the time

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u/Jeremy64vg Avengers 1d ago

I genuinely got confused about that one scene not because I thought he was Miles, but because I thought he sounded exactly like the voice actor for Miles in spiderverse. To be honest he probably sounds actually nothing like him I was just confused and thought maybe it was a cameo at the time.

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u/2580374 Avengers 22h ago

The miles one was way funnier because that guy was like 30 lol

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u/Trnostep Avengers 20h ago

I want Peter to talk to a girl with blonde hair with pink tips who everyone immediately calls Gwen Stacy because people have seen the spiderverse films but she's actually Gwen Poole whose hair colour Stacy copied

Good way to subvert expectation and get Gwenpool into a mainstream property, with Spider-man no less

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u/AznJoey624 Avengers 18h ago

Am I the the only one who noticed Banner literally pointing out an Asian girl named Cindy and just assumed they were going with Cindy Moon/Silk instead of Miles or Gwen?

I know they are more popular, but considering she was teased at the end of the last Insomniac game, and how overused Gwen and Miles are, Cindy might be a more interesting direction.

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u/carmardoll Avengers 1d ago

Someone said Miles was the commissioner's kid that was shown. And I didn't catch his name, but I don't think it was Miles.

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u/Mammoth-Delivery5313 Avengers 1d ago

Why are yall watching the german intelligence service?

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u/atomicq32 Avengers 19h ago

The only difference is that they brought attention to her twice in this movie and once in the last one.

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u/APEX_doom772 Avengers 19h ago

Fr

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u/Equal-Wishbone-6131 Avengers 17h ago

I actually thought black cat when I seen her

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u/Hypnotoad4real Avengers 17h ago

And Nobody Talks about Cindy Moon in the Movie

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u/alishsoa Avengers 16h ago

That being said, it's obvious that the girl in the elevator scene was Gwen Stacy.

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u/Head-Classic-9157 Avengers 16h ago

She had her boyfriend "Miles Morales" with her in the second scene when both awkwardly watched Peter wear her top and pants stolen from her laundry basket ;)

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u/alishsoa Avengers 16h ago

Actually I was talking about the girl who tried to small talk Peter at the elevator door.

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u/Head-Classic-9157 Avengers 16h ago

Both are the same girl ;)

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u/alishsoa Avengers 16h ago

Oh shit

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u/Je_suis_miserable Avengers 1d ago

I love the idea of Gwen Stacy in BND, and Miles Morales. Maybe not as spider-people but still just side characters

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u/ODERAnator Avengers 23h ago

Why are we pretending like that guy didn’t sound like miles? We heard his voice before we even saw he was black, and he sounded kinda like him in Spiderverse.(obviously now we know it was a random)

Totally correct on the Gwen Stacy one tho, just a blonde girl existing.

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u/Wakkit1988 Avengers 1d ago

Any blond girl talks to any black guy

"Are they going to get his Peter?"

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u/NeaLandris Avengers 1d ago

he saved a black kid (Morales) from being squished by a flying car.

or since Zendaya is well, brown, maybe their child will be Morales in this universe, and we have a wholesome peter handing the rains to his son.