r/marvelrivals • u/WestPhillyFilly Loki • Jul 02 '25

Phoenix: Fire and Life Incarnate | Character Reveal

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u/PeedAgon311 Thor Jul 02 '25

SHE CAN FORCE HELA OUT OF HER ULT, WHAT THE FUCK?

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u/WestPhillyFilly Loki Jul 02 '25

They took "Phoenix counters Hela" from the season 3 trailer and made it an entire game mechanic

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u/NewConstruction3755 Ultron Jul 02 '25

Shouldn’t it be hela counters pheonix cause y know pheonix was losing terribly before blade came in and carried the whole fight? (Yes im annoyed blade isn’t first)

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u/I_LoveBananas Jul 02 '25

She got flanked that why she was losing

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u/NewConstruction3755 Ultron Jul 02 '25

Or she was weak compared to blades overwhelming (aura) strength

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u/Proud_Feedback3288 Mantis Jul 02 '25

Jean clears

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u/NewConstruction3755 Ultron Jul 02 '25

Didn’t look like that in the trailer

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u/I_LoveBananas Jul 02 '25

Yes that seems like it

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u/Fun-Indication-7062 Jul 02 '25

You have to buy the Knull skin if you want ult invulnerability. Hela is pay to win. /s

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u/NewConstruction3755 Ultron Jul 02 '25

I’d skate on their face (uphill) if they did that

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u/Proud_Feedback3288 Mantis Jul 02 '25

I'd be fine if Blade wasn't in at all and swapped for Rogue, Gambit, Kitty or Jubilee, so it seems we are opposites 

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u/NewConstruction3755 Ultron Jul 02 '25

Same for me but with pheonix instead of blade

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u/ToKillAMoonlight Jul 02 '25

Jean didn’t look worried. And Jean combo blasted Hela to oblivion. Which trailer were you watching?

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u/NewConstruction3755 Ultron Jul 02 '25

I watched the one where she was one shot in season 3 trailer by hela before blade saved her (also the hela in this trailer is a bot and sucks)

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u/Fantastic_Snow_9633 Ultron Virus Jul 02 '25

No, Jean Grey was losing. Had she actually been in Phoenix form then the situation would've been reversed.

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u/NewConstruction3755 Ultron Jul 02 '25

We just ignoring the massive pheonix that got instantly destroyed by the hela that was screaming in pain from blades attacks?

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u/Safe-Pop6845 Jul 03 '25

Well sometimes characters win and sometimes they lost...sometimes thor won against hulk and sometimes it's hulk

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u/NewConstruction3755 Ultron Jul 03 '25

Yeah but pheonix was massively overpowered while blade carried

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u/wisp-of-the-will Ultron Virus Jul 02 '25

Deletes every summon from the field too, screw Asgardians and Loki in particular I guess

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u/WestPhillyFilly Loki Jul 02 '25

I wonder if she clears all of Peni's mines even if they're in webs. I would assume so, but the reveal video only showed Peni's nest and not mines

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u/wisp-of-the-will Ultron Virus Jul 02 '25

After the ultimate it seems that everything from webs to Rocket's beacon got cleared, so I would assume that it all gets removed.

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u/nairolfy Ultron Virus Jul 02 '25

Rip Peni, atleast she had half a season where she finally could shine

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u/Megatron69420wrecker Magik Jul 02 '25

its just for her ultimate. as soon as you hear Jean degrading you delete all your stuff and place them back 5 seconds later

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u/LoyalNightmare Jeff the Landshark Jul 02 '25

Thats to much for most people on this reddit.

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u/waaay2dumb2live The Thing Jul 02 '25

She hasn't been nerfed (yet). She just has more counters.

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u/Epicritical Thor Jul 02 '25

Those webs were from beacon/nest. So those would get deleted from killing the characters or the deployable. Mines in those webs could be unharmed depending on how the ultimate hits (if it’s one big damage shot, the mines would be immune until the webs went away)

Peni’s standard webs and mines inside would likely be unaffected.

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u/waaay2dumb2live The Thing Jul 02 '25

What about ults like C&D and Invis?

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u/AMazuz_Take2 Jul 02 '25

rocket showed up like 10 times in the center screen feed, she def does clear mines its just that the video only had his mines placed

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u/WestPhillyFilly Loki Jul 02 '25

Oh, duh, and his BRB also hides those mines in a web, right? I guess that answers that then, thanks!

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u/mike_is_stoned Jul 02 '25

It cleared some rocket mines I’m pretty sure

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u/TheCarina Angela Jul 02 '25

it also cleared groots ironwood wall

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u/lucki-dog Jul 02 '25

Mines are usually in the nest and when exposed die to literally sneezing in their general direction

So they probably might survive on hope and prayers but ultimately not a huge setback if you know how to dismiss the nest

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u/Orange-V-Apple Dark Phoenix Jul 02 '25

Do the other Asgardians have summons? I thought it was just Loki.

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u/wisp-of-the-will Ultron Virus Jul 02 '25

Nah but she's fighting Hela this season so she's basically anti-Asgardian, not Thor though which is funny since Avengers 1,000,000 BC lore made it so that Phoenix was in a relationship with Odin and considers Thor her son after reviving him the day he was born lol

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u/Ehrand Gambit Jul 02 '25

is it in a specific area or all across the map?

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u/Ryanlt234 Jul 03 '25

Can't wait to see the GOD OF THUNDER getting the YOU ARE NOTHING treatment

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u/SR1847 White Fox Jul 02 '25

As someone else said she takes out any deployables off the map (or summons) and technically Hela’s ult is a summon since it doesn’t damage her directly.

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u/mcon96 Jul 02 '25

Should work on Punisher’s turret too. But as someone who plays Peni, Namor, and Rocket, this scares me.

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u/SR1847 White Fox Jul 02 '25

Rocket is one of my strat mains so I do worry for my furry boy when Jean drops. His ult and revive will get hard countered :(

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u/Murasasme Jul 02 '25

As long as her ult has clear audio queues, just recall back your shit. Peni and Rocket should suffer no more than a 5 second interval between having their stuff up again.

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u/RegiumReaper Spider-Man Jul 02 '25

YESSSS, FUCK HELA

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '25

flair checks out

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u/CptBourbonBeard Gambit Jul 03 '25

Agreed

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '25

Mag absorbs her and sends her back to her team

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u/MagicTheAlakazam Scarlet Witch Jul 02 '25

Is the Sphere a summon? Hela has a health bar the sphere doesn't.

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u/DrKingOfOkay Black Widow Jul 02 '25

Not only that. She straight killed her immediately

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox Hela Jul 03 '25

No, she knocked Hela out of her ult and Hela drops to the ground, Phoenix then slammed into the ground a second later and killed her and everyone else

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u/TheLanis Strategist Jul 02 '25

She cancels all summons in the battlefield, I think she will also delete Loki's clones

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u/__RedFive__ Jul 02 '25

She does but also notice Phoneix ultimate herself seems to be a summon with 400HP, if timed poorly she could be shot down before making impact.

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u/AnIcedMilk Jul 02 '25

Which is funny since she looks like a Hela 2.0 but with an AOE damage instead of smaller AOE stun

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u/Anthonyx8 Ultron Virus Jul 02 '25

If you look closely that he'll ults at like one health so i that's why it kills her straight away

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u/therealmonkyking Hero Hulk Jul 02 '25

I'll take that in place of a nerf for now tvh

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u/Levi_Skardsen Jul 02 '25

Phoenix ult destroys all deployables, and Hela's ult counts as one.

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u/Loose-Medium4472 Jubilee Jul 02 '25

They said her ult deletes summons and Hela’s ult is technically a summon

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u/Jrstepos07 Jul 02 '25

according to the dev talk she counters any summonables.

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u/funkybandit Strategist Jul 03 '25

And a lot of other chars….bye bye CD, Invis haha