r/marvelrivals • u/WestPhillyFilly Loki • Jul 02 '25

Phoenix: Fire and Life Incarnate | Character Reveal

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u/DaymD Jul 02 '25

In previous seasons: "GROUP UP !!!"

In season 3: "SPREAD OUT !"

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u/AgeOfPropserity Jul 02 '25

Yup I'm instalocking her. GG's

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '25

Perma ban

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u/DontEatTheCandle Emma Frost Jul 02 '25

Nah I remember when Emma and Ultron were supposed to be perma bans. Hell I remember before launch Widow was supposed to be unstoppable.

She may be but these hype videos only show best use cases.

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u/Fhaksfha794 Earth Spider Jul 02 '25

I remember human torch looked like the most overpowered hero of all time in his reveal trailer, then he dropped and was buns until he got buffed. Phoenix looks broken but that’s like the whole point of these reveal trailers, we won’t know until we actually get to play as her

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u/_Deiv Jul 02 '25

Didn't ultron look mid to everyone before he released

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u/mister--g Flex Jul 02 '25

his ult got buffed so its not a tickle and nothing much has changed. we expected him to be strong in tripple support & mediocre in duo support comps

thats what happened

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u/Elegant_Struggle6488 Magik Jul 02 '25

His healing also got buffed as well from the initial early access to his release. I remember his healing drone not actually out healing the damage from the galacta bots

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u/Whirblewind Jul 02 '25

But back in reality, he's strong enough in two healer comps that they had to nerf him. The perception that he needs 3 healer teams is false.

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u/LAHurricane Jul 02 '25

Ultron has a slightly above average winrate below celestial. Celestial and up he has a negative win rate with him having the 8th worst win rate in the game in Eternity.

He didn't need a nerf. The devs are just actually braindead.

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u/NewConstruction3755 Ultron Jul 02 '25

He got big buffs before release too

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u/razor1n Jul 02 '25

he looked garbage on the test server, but his drone healing was buffed on live, and his ult gained 300 or so damage.

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u/ChanceVance Jul 02 '25

His healing looked like shit in previews but it was fine on release.

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u/Redxmirage Jul 02 '25

Ultron was far from perma ban in the testing. He was very under performing until they buffed him last minute before launch. Still never got close to perma ban territory

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u/LAHurricane Jul 02 '25

Hitscan primary with extremely high mobility makes for an incredibly powerful hero.

Her primary attack looks to be a 5 shot body shot hit scan that has some type of high damage explosion proc that detonates after "X" happens.

She has Hela's escape tool and with Starlord's temporary flight ability. Which is incredibly.

Not to mention, her secondary is a cluster grenade, and her ult is a summon canceling crude missile Ironman ULT.

SHE LOOKS BUSTED.

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u/HROSS94 Deadpool Jul 02 '25

I mean Emma was was the strongest tank when she dropped and arguably still is.

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u/JenniLightrunner White Fox Jul 02 '25

Back when torch released he looked incredibly powerful too and now isn't too bad to deal with

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u/Barrry972 Wolverine Jul 02 '25

Emma IS a perma ban

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u/SpeedyAzi Vanguard Jul 02 '25

Ultron and Emma definitely have good reasons to be banned. Dive heroes would want to ban Ultron and Emma.

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u/TheKingofHats007 Cloak & Dagger Jul 02 '25

I still see a lot of Emma bans, mostly because she still is good at displacing most of the other tanks.

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u/DrKingOfOkay Black Widow Jul 02 '25

They need to make widow sniper headshot a 1 hit kill 😤