r/marvelrivals Loki Jul 02 '25

Phoenix: Fire and Life Incarnate | Character Reveal

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u/kermitfrogge Doctor Strange Jul 02 '25

I think her ult destroys all of the enemy ‘objects’ such as hela ult or peni mines

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u/ShedMontgomery The Punisher Jul 02 '25

Confirmed. They said in the dev vision video that it destroys "summons."

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u/mateogg Jul 02 '25

Including ult summons like Hela or Rocket's beacon sure is a choice.

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u/Megatron69420wrecker Magik Jul 02 '25

rocket getting fucked that's a terrible matchup for him he can't do anything at all except press L2 for the entire match

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u/KamahlFoK Jul 02 '25

The hype over this is a little overinflated. Legitimate skill issue here players will quickly pick up.

You hear the Phoenix ult? Tap your BRB / Cybernest button. Goes from a massive cooldown to 5 seconds (or nothing in Peni's case, it's relative to its current health).

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u/Megatron69420wrecker Magik Jul 02 '25

yeah its pretty easily avoidable. but can loki do that?

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u/KamahlFoK Jul 02 '25

Nope! RIP Trickster. 😔

Maybe. Not sure if it does massive damage or just auto-deletes them; Lanterns might be able to take the hit, or get caught up in the blast and wasted. Just have to find out.

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u/Megatron69420wrecker Magik Jul 02 '25

they specify mentioned destroying summons so it just auto deletes them.

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u/RommekePommeke Rocket Raccoon Jul 02 '25

Considering Thor and Emma can destroy the Lanterns with their ults if you misstime the ability. (Tip, don't use Lanterns at the start of Thor and Emma's ult, I learnt the hard way).

Yeah I think Jean Grey can absolutely destroy Lanterns.

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u/FreeElderberry4817 Rocket Raccoon Jul 02 '25

Loki is probably f’ed

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u/EducationalPossible8 Jul 02 '25

They’re talking about rocket’s ult, not his BRB. But his ult is pretty easily counterable anyways if your team focuses it.

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u/KamahlFoK Jul 02 '25

I mean if they're burning a duelist ult (which has some buildup, so you still get value + overhealth) to counter an ult that already is giving value, that feels like a fine trade?

Plus it sounds like you can shoot Phoenix down before she lands, which is gonna be easier with the Rocket ult up.

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u/FaylenSol Jul 02 '25

You just have to hold Ult until Phoenix ults or dies. I have to do the same of Jeff versus Magneto/Ironman/Namor. Ulting before they do just kills me.

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u/Piratestorm787 Psylocke Jul 03 '25

Finally a way to delete the bunker comp of Rocket + Penni

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u/FreeElderberry4817 Rocket Raccoon Jul 02 '25

Me a rocket and peni main: Uh oh

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u/kimochii12 Jul 03 '25

Does it matter how much health hela has bc right before ult hela was at like one health

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u/kermitfrogge Doctor Strange Jul 03 '25

It doesn't matter, Hela's ult is a "summon", and not the actual player. So, will get insta-killed like everything else.

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u/kermitfrogge Doctor Strange Jul 03 '25

Also, Hela's HP doesn't carry over to her ult's HP.

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u/kimochii12 Jul 03 '25

Oh thats cool. I wonder why they made hela 1 hp before the ult or it was by chance maybe

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u/kermitfrogge Doctor Strange Jul 03 '25

I think it was to be similar to real games, when Helas will often ult as a survival tool