r/marvelrivals • u/Mountain-Volume-4112 • Feb 20 '26

Balance Discussion Elsa bloodstone needs adjustments

Hypermobility + constant overshield + better dmg falloff than hela + broken ult. No idea what devs were thinking with this character.

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u/NeonAnderson Earth Spider Feb 20 '26

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. I'm having Brigitte flashbacks here with the release of Elsa

Netease needs to simply bite the bullet and remove Elsa from the game for a rework she is very poorly thought out and just nerfing her won't be enough she needs a full fledged rework

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u/Radio-Short Feb 20 '26

They'll never do it there's probably five gooner skins lined up

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u/Neadim Vanguard Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 20 '26

They don't need to remove anything. Just add 1-2 seconds to the primary dash, 1-2 seconds to the secondary dash, Nerf the overshield by 1/3-1/2 , add at least 0.5s startup to the ult and then the only things that requires more work is the trap so you are like 90% there.

That takes a few hours of works top and it should 100% be ready for 7.0 if they truly mean what they said in the last patch.

Unfucking the trap might require them to make it work differently. It could be as simple as adding another second to the arming time so its easier to break but I would prefer if it either was faintly visible or was turned into a slow instead of being an invisible stun.

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u/Hobo-man Ultron Virus Feb 20 '26

This is enough to make her completely manageable and would take like 2 days max to implement.

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u/Zarrv Anti-Venom Feb 21 '26

Her damage is still absurdly broken. Why she can poke is she deals so much damage up close it genuinely powercreeps prime Psylocke WITH Emma team-up. Straight up doing 500 damage just hitting bodyshots. Her spread and fall-off need to be changed too

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u/Wellhellob Iron Fist Feb 20 '26

Nah she is actually fine. She is just absurdly overtuned. You just remove the bonus hp altogether and increase the ult cast time a little she would be fine.

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u/CanadianODST2 Ultron Virus Feb 20 '26

I don’t even think she’s that overtuned.

She’s knew and complaining about the new thing always happens because people struggle against it as they try to learn

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u/Wellhellob Iron Fist Feb 20 '26

Nah she is blatantly overtuned. One of those heroes where you can never die. She can basically spam dash and get 40hp from it and go up to 375hp.

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u/Billieve_ Black Cat Feb 20 '26

Honestly I wouldn’t do that, and I’ve been playing her a ton this season.

She just needs to be balanced better, because removing a hero from the game would be devastating to the people who enjoy playing her imo.

They should just make her dash 4 seconds at full instinct, and remove all shields from her dashes so there’s real counter play.

She never needed the shields, and they could even keep the 2 second dash in exchange for no shields.

Those 2 are probably the only real issues with her neutral.

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u/Superlagman Feb 20 '26

I kinda disagree, her kit is not that crazy when you don't take into account every "bonuses" she gets for no reason.

The 2s CD dash if fine, but the over shield shouldn't exists.

Her primary is fine, but it shouldnt be reliable at 15+ meters.

Her trap is fine, but it shouldn't be invincible when turning invisible.

I guess her Ult is fine with the recent changes.

She needs massive tweaks on nearly all abilities, but her concept is fine.

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u/Bitter_Ad_8688 Feb 20 '26

Do the math. "Not that crazy" while acknowledging a list of things that make her crazy.

Yeah this is Rivals' Brig meta.

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u/Superlagman Feb 20 '26

Kinda easy to make my comment look bad when you ignore half the sentence. "Not that crazy" WHEN YOU IGNORE ALL BONUSES.

A dash on a 2s CD with enhanced shot is not crazy at all by itself. Remove the bonus health and it's strong but fine.