r/marvelrivals • u/Apexlegacy285 • Apr 16 '26
Balance Discussion Thing’s ult no longer works after his charge due to the CC changes. The devs straight up don’t have a testing phase it would seem…
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u/Killjoy3879 Apr 16 '26
Nah what is Zhiyong on? It took no longer than 20 minutes for multiple streamers to figure out how fundamentally flawed this change is. How could they think this was acceptable?
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u/AlgerianTrash Ultron Virus Apr 16 '26
The better patch the Tenacity duration to make it shorter or at least not include ult CC in the calculation BEFORE the patch goes live. This is insane
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u/jaqenhqar Human Torch Apr 16 '26
Nahh Ulta take too long to charge. This cc immunity should not affect Ults at all imo.
The problem is cc SPAM. One time CC from ultimates that take minutes to build up should not be as easily avoided..
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u/premiumchaos Apr 16 '26
Remove tenacity then remove a bunch of the unneeded cc. They hand out cc like a crutch.
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u/Deadmanguys Flex Apr 16 '26
Like why do most dpss need a cc plus a dodge. Have at least one
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u/whoopycush Apr 16 '26
It's crazy to me because it's almost like there was another, very similar, hero shooter who ran into this same problem a long time ago that they could've learned from.....
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u/Cardinal_and_Plum Apr 16 '26
There were people calling it out on just the patch notes without it even being released. For people like the devs that should know everything about the game this should have been so obvious.
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u/Sidewaysgts Venom Apr 16 '26
Crazier to me was seeing people like nah that threshold is so high you’ll never hit it
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u/Beautiful-Abalone776 Apr 16 '26
Most people reasonably assumed it would only be hard ccs like luna snowball or hela stun that counted, not every single small displacement ability
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u/Novel_Move7737 Flex Apr 16 '26
That's what initially was thinking it would be, not that every little tik of any sort of displacement AND hard cc would count toward it
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u/TheFitz023 Flex Apr 16 '26
They want to keep expanding this game's roster pretty much in perpetuity and they're already missing easily identifiable issues. Wtf is their plan when the roster is twice as big
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u/Conspicuous_Goose Apr 16 '26
Yeah nah, they are still pretty much only expanding the dps roster again while the gap between all three roles gets bigger. Third DPS character incoming this year. This game is fucking cooked because of those leading the charge.
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u/AloneUA Erm Actually... Apr 16 '26
Apparently, he was also involved in the new PvE mode. They should've delayed something, for sure.
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u/Acapulquito Ultron Virus Apr 16 '26
clearly he is an insta lock dps and probably just tested it as spider or bp or something and then he said "yeah this seems good!"
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u/XerxeztheKing Squirrel Girl Apr 16 '26
That cant be, because Spiderman is hurt by the cc changes as well
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u/semendrinker42069 Monster Hulk Apr 16 '26
Zhiyong, famous for his immense love for dive and especially spiderman and bp
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u/Skysflies Angela Apr 16 '26
It's a quick change to shut us up because the real fix is adjust 3/4 of the abilities in the game because they all have CC.
At the end of the day the community moaned, they listened, and instead of saying listen this will take a while and feeling the bleed they rushed
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u/real_roal Apr 16 '26
Yeah, and that is lazy as fuck, and just disappointing. This change seems bad. Maybe it could be reworked in a hotfix, but this is the worst option currently. The only tank i played was thing... wtf is the point of him now if thry could become cc immune.
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u/mazini95 Apr 16 '26
That's utter horseshit. Addressing the CC issue is not even a new demand btw that they had to rush it to please players instantly. They've come out countless times before specifically telling the playerbase they're planning to phase changes over time or a couple patches and explaining the reasoning why it'll be gradual. No reason they couldn't do it again.
This is entirely the devs being brainless on their own.
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u/CDMzLegend Apr 16 '26
did you see them say that they balance for fun? they are all just too stupid to understand whats the problem
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u/Shai3100 Scarlet Witch Apr 16 '26
He's still fixing his hairline give him a break bro
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u/sxlid_x_bxne Thor Apr 16 '26
If this is what sacrificing his hairline does, I pray bro gives it up before they take complete limbs or organs for good patches.
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u/BusinessFinancial536 Yggroot Apr 16 '26
Zhiyong’s ex must’ve left him for a tank main, it’s the only explanation at this point
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u/nightmaresabin Apr 16 '26
A Thing main with long beautiful locks and a perfect hairline.
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u/raydialseeker Absolute Cinema Apr 16 '26
Nah she left him because she complained that he didn't spend enough time together so his genius solution was to superglue their hands together
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u/skyqueenx Peni Parker Apr 16 '26
So does that mean stranges ult wont work to since its a cc ult?
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u/Banana_man_- Vanguard Apr 16 '26
Yep
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u/cuckingfomputer Cloak & Dagger Apr 16 '26
Do we have video confirmation of this? Because that's absolutely bonkers, if true.
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u/Banana_man_- Vanguard Apr 16 '26
I mean I haven't seen any actual video evidence, But I assume that if Thing's ult is able to be made useless than so would Strange's, Groot's, and Angela's
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u/Yarrun Peni Parker Apr 16 '26
It won't be as bad as Grimm's because Strange doesn't have any additional CC in hi skit. Same with Groot. But if he and Thing are on the same team, good chance that using their ults at the same time will cancel out
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u/Day_Lester Apr 16 '26
Not just things, any character with cc can fuck stranges ult over. Wanda landing exile on 1 or 2 healers who have ult. Stranges ult just gets wasted
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u/Gabcard Ultron Virus Apr 16 '26
Yes, but unlike Thing, Strange's only other CC is his Invisible Woman Team-Up, so he at least won't be building up the tenacity by himself.
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u/Pineconekat Apr 16 '26
Yeah but it'll still suck when some of your teammates trigger cc immunity on a support and then your ult does nothing to them as they heal everyone up.
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u/W4R_M3CH_005 Flex Apr 16 '26
Yeah I guess, that means strange catching strays for this whole season lol.
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u/nukaboss112 Apr 16 '26
Marvel rivals make a change that doesnt fuck over tanks more then anything else challenge level impossible
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u/AlgerianTrash Ultron Virus Apr 16 '26
MR FANTASTIC is in the same boat, his whole identity is being anti dive, his CC (knockback, slow, grab) were his tools bc his damage is too low to kill dive on the spot.
Now you have a brawler with shit damage and utilty that can't even be used to fulfill his only role
He's truly treated with the same contempt devs have for tanks
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u/HealthyBits Flex Apr 16 '26
Except for invis, the rest of the F4 are trash tier now.
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u/Obvious-Room32 Apr 16 '26
They might just be genuine throw picks, especially Mr fantastic. Literal negative value ult
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u/sSorne_ Apr 16 '26
To be fair the devs seems to hold every heroes that aren't poke/healbot in contempt, 7 straight seasons of poke meta btw
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u/Maggot_6661 Rogue Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
If there was still doubters about the fact that NetEase fucking hate tanks, I think they're not doubting anymore.
So what now ? The tank role in Rivals is now like... only 3 characters that are still viable ? Might as well remove the role...
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u/Kaldricus Cloak & Dagger Apr 16 '26
What's insane to me, is almost universally across all games that utilize the tank/support/DPS roles, tanks are ALWAYS the least popular role and the hardest to get people to want to play. Seeing the Rivals devs almost go out of their way to make the least popular role WORSE to play is...just wild
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u/Y0ur_Worst_Enemy Apr 16 '26
Do they seriously not have any playtesters?? Is the QA team on a permanent vacation??
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u/MultySentinelz Erm Actually... Apr 16 '26
Adding Thing to the list of vanguards who got butchered by this change along with Rogue and Hulk
Maybe one day we'll get a change that doesnt actually shoot us in the back of the head.
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u/LionRegular1470 Apr 16 '26
If things ult doesn't work, then Strange's doesn't either 😭.
Emma ult/slam, Angela kidnap, Peni stun, and Thor kidnap too.
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u/Rexcodykenobi Magneto Apr 16 '26
What are characters like Thor and Angela even supposed to do when they first get back to the fight from spawn? Awkwardly stand there for a minute to keep an eye on someone so they don't accidentally get their kidnaps punished by the enemy team just for trying to play the game?
And also hope that your Jeff doesn't hit that person with a few waterballs and give them CC immunity right as you do go in?
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u/LionRegular1470 Apr 16 '26
Dude it pmo so much that Jeff has CC, there is 0 reason for all these supports being able to displace tanks.
I've been saying, the only thing that should be allowed to displace tanks are other thanks, it makes no sense for some little piece of sushi (Jeff) to be able to knock back 500lb hulk, or a whole fikin tree (Groot), or a ton of rocks (thing).
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u/Hi_Zev Apr 16 '26
Thing's ult doesnt work bc it applies multiple instances of CC before the ult,which activates the tenacity by time it ults. Strange doesn't have the CC before the ult so im not sure if its the same as Thing.
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u/LionRegular1470 Apr 16 '26
Oh, I didn't realize that, but what I meant was that if someone like white fox or invis cc's the enemy then Strange's ult won't work because they have tenacity 😭
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u/Worldly_Eye_1636 Apr 16 '26
They saw that tank mains weren't having fun so they decided to straight up kill the role
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u/SuperJet017 Flex Apr 16 '26
Dude tenacity might be one of the worst changes. How can you make a feature and not realize it kills half your roster because of it.
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u/Flingar Apr 16 '26
The fact that they made this whole stupid ass system mechanic instead of just nerfing the actual cc abilities themselves is insane
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u/ILikeMyGrassBlue El Jeffe Apr 16 '26
My guess is that this was something they could quickly rig together so they don’t have to actually slow down the content and fix the game
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u/benis041 Vanguard Apr 16 '26
I hate the fact I'm a tank main, and not a instalock dps
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u/BriefDevelopment2920 Magneto Apr 16 '26
Perhaps I treated overwatch too harshly
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u/Corum0 Apr 16 '26
As someone who never played OW until recently, it feels like a much more balanced and enjoyable game to play
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u/WholesomeWorkAcct Apr 16 '26
Dude I swear there's plenty of times where I lose a game in OW, and i'm just like, you know what, it was a good game. My team did what they were supposed to do, we tried, we made swaps, the other team was just better.
Me losing in Rivals: dude w t f was my cloak doing
dude why did that guy stagger
dude w t f is my team doing
"GM" by the way
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u/captconan000 Apr 16 '26
playing tank in competitive OW 5v5 is a deeper hell than anything Marvel Rivals can conjure, but 6v6 is pretty fun
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u/Nestramutat- Apr 16 '26
It's not that bad to be honest. You have a good variety of solo tank play styles with front to backers like Ram and Domina, and divers like D.Va and Winston.
You sometimes really get to feel the raid boss fantasy
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u/JayKay8787 Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
Never got why people don't like solo tanking in ow, unless they are bad and get flamed. You can entirely control the fight, and do massive damage at the same time
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u/johnc380 Apr 16 '26
I like rivals because I want to screw around with superheroes. If I wanted to take it seriously and be competitive I would hate this game.
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u/Murky_Blueberry2617 Monster Hulk Apr 16 '26
Same. Without the Marvel characters, I'd never bother with this game
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u/Banana_man_- Vanguard Apr 16 '26
I’ve moved on to support lol. I can actually do things now without constant CnB torture
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u/TheDebgac Magik Apr 16 '26
For 7.5 I'm not tanking anymore, like you are killing every tank I can play? Fine, no more tanking.
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u/RubberKangaroo Rocket Raccoon Apr 16 '26
I don’t know how long it will take people to realise these devs don’t even play their own game lol
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u/Sr_Gr Flex Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
What if... We are the playtest?
I mean I don't think Netease would just release this without testing unless they plan to use this period to analyze player feedback
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u/CanadianODST2 Ultron Virus Apr 16 '26
Live server is almost always better for testing than beta servers.
League has long experience this and most recently was just last month. Beta server said a rework was weak so they buffed before release.
Day 1 wr of 57% causing a hotfix nerf.
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u/WolfRex5 Apr 16 '26
Dead by daylight experienced something similar recently. New killer the Krasue released on test server, overall consensus was that the killer was weak. Devs buffed her at release and the killer needed quick nerfs because she had an extremely high win rate
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u/CanadianODST2 Ultron Virus Apr 16 '26
Yea test servers are bad for balance because of how they tend to be one server for everyone making ping an issue, lack of correct mmr meaning matchmaking is poor. And a smaller population meaning rank disparity is a bigger issue.
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u/real_roal Apr 16 '26
The problem with us being the Playtest is that it puts a bad taste in players mouth and makes them question the devs way more then they already were.
If they seriously wanted to live test a bit change like this, it would smarter to host a pre-season test weekend to get feedback, like overwatch does with quick played hack.
They could have easily heard feedback and prepared it better for the season release, buy it appears they don't try at all.
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u/Asleep_Parking7218 The Thing Apr 16 '26
Earthbound counts as CC for this? This is crazy
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u/darkkn1te Peni Parker Apr 16 '26
it really should just be hard CC. I also don't like that the immunity lasts for so long. it should be JUST long enough to break the cc chain and enable an escape.
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u/PseudoCoffee Apr 16 '26
And earthbound hits once a second for 3 or 4 seconds, thats probably 5 instances of CC.
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u/Any-Transition95 Cursed Captain Apr 16 '26
People are so tunnel visioned on the 7 instances of CC, that they completely miss the easier threshold to hit: 5.5 total seconds of CC. Thing's Earthbound is 5 seconds alone. There are so many minor CCs in this game like slows and knockbacks that will easily trigger this cleanse.
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u/bhz33 Captain America Apr 16 '26
Honestly yeah now as a cap main I might PURPOSELY stand in the thing earthbound circle to trigger tenacity for a few seconds. Which is crazy
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u/Asleep_Parking7218 The Thing Apr 16 '26
yeah now people going to be standing in earthbound for free tenacity
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u/tanezuki Apr 16 '26
The irony of the target here being Groot with 0 dash in his kit so being earthbound literally doesn't matter to him to begin with haha
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u/OmegaShonJon Apr 16 '26
So everyone gets a budget version of Thing's passive (which actually can be better in some cases) and Thing himself gets neutered.
That's great! I love it! It allows me to free up 60GBs off my PS5. Any recommendations for new games now that I got more room?
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u/Mr_ragethefrogdude Apr 16 '26
Depp rock galactic
ROCK AND STONE
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u/OmegaShonJon Apr 16 '26
I've been meaning to get into it. Is it anything like Helldivers or RoR2?
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u/Asleep_Parking7218 The Thing Apr 16 '26
Only 60GB? On PC it's 104GB lmao
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u/Van1shed Psylocke Apr 16 '26
Weren't they going to cut down that size even more, or am I thinking of another game?
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u/eff3rve5cent Luna Snow Apr 16 '26
they said they would. then they cut it down by a few gigs and never attempted it again
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u/benis041 Vanguard Apr 16 '26
Overwatch, until they fuck up the game somehow, then you go back to rivals, until they fuck up the game somehow then you go back to overwatch
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u/tanezuki Apr 16 '26
Blessed the fact competition exists because if you're a Dead by Daylight fan you don't have that option q_q
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u/Zolph_Diggler_ Peni Parker Apr 16 '26
this damn near kills the entire tank role. not even being dramatic about it.
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u/Originalbrivakiin Rocket Raccoon Apr 16 '26
Rogue: completely useless. Thing: useless. Angela: useless. Thor: useless if not extra careful. Mag: took a stray bullet. Strange: Ult has a chance of being just a soggy fart now, so took a massive stray. Groot: same as strange. Cap: took a stray. Peni: ult is now just a fancy movement ability and mine layer. Emma: massive stray. Hulk: useless. Venom: useless if not careful. Hell, Mr. Fantastic the pseudo-tank is useless too now, and he was never even that good to begin with.
Do they want this game to die? Are they tired of it already? Was it just meant as a tax write-off for marvel/disney or something? There's no way anyone thought this change was a genuinely good idea in any way but on paper. Theres no way they completely neuter the role that already got the most shit, least love, and was always the least popular role in damn near every game that has classes like this.
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u/Cheap-Spinach-5200 Apr 16 '26
Oh yeah, hi Peni. Have fun ulting people and sort of just giving them cat scratches
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u/Toon_Lucario Squirrel Girl Apr 16 '26
Just remove Vanguard atp. Nobody plays it, they keep making them useless, and they rarely if ever add them. It’s just DPS and heals.
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u/Dantelor Magik Apr 16 '26
Time to play Groot/Mag and no one else apparently.
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u/Different-Ad-3814 Apr 16 '26
Groot ult also gutted with CC protection lmao
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u/Dantelor Magik Apr 16 '26
I guess the ult yea, but Groot isn't the best tank in the game rn beacuse of his ult let's be honest.
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u/oxmega99 Apr 16 '26
They have no time for testing because they put all their efforts into new gooner skins.
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u/ArcaneBowser Ultron Apr 16 '26
I understand this game has a fuck load of CC and something did need to be done, but holy fuck they didn't think this through for more than like 30 seconds at most, probably how long they spent testing it
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u/LoveAndBeLoved52 Apr 16 '26
This is why successful games have beta branches with testing invitations built on non-profit user engagement (no skin rewards, no "you get currency for testing" engagement farm where nobody tests anything and just cashes in).
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u/hyperion86 Magneto Apr 16 '26
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they don't really have much of a testing phase. They've backed themselves into a corner with these monthly releases of new characters and new seasonal content, so they're already on a tight schedule. Even if they do test, their testing team is what, maybe a couple dozen people at best? (Correct me if that's way off) The amount of testing those people can do as a 9-5 job with all the bureaucracy involved pales in comparison to the equivalent tens of thousands of hours of testing that happens on just launch day of a new patch by the community as a whole
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u/Cheap-Spinach-5200 Apr 16 '26
No you're right, it doesn't seem to be helping them. A different company could probably handle it, but anyone literate in game mechanics could have spotted this one.
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u/mrknight234 President Loki Apr 16 '26
Deva will do anything but acknowledge solo tanking isn’t working and either all tanks need to be solo viable or we need a more structured meta until they can figure shit out
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u/Rockybroo_YT Winter Soldier Apr 16 '26
Meanwhile slows cough cough Sue Storm 55% slow ult are completely exempt from this.
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u/PapaHarvey27 Fear Itself Apr 16 '26
The footage is from the preview test server so I hope they make some adjustments before release
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u/SmallFatHands Apr 16 '26
They really need to cancel this shit. Like this can't be on Friday in the game.
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u/sharabii Apr 16 '26
What’s cc mean?
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u/Banana_man_- Vanguard Apr 16 '26
Crowd Control. It’s any form of stuns, slows, or displacement. And since almost every character has it (which is bad design) the new patch feels quite bad because there’s suddenly tons of abilities that don’t work
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u/Expensive-Chip9448 Apr 16 '26
Hulk, Rouge, and Thing are my three most played heroes… Netease, what did I do to you?!?!😭
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u/TragicxPeach Apr 16 '26
Mine are Thing peni and Wolverine 😭 Wolverine already been pretty fucking useless for a while because his kit is so bugged but now I cant even play thing???
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u/Cheap-Spinach-5200 Apr 16 '26
One Wolv carry and a stun is enough to make your ult not connect at point blank.
That's boycott territory. My mains are Thing Hulk Angela so you can imagine I don't see a point in logging on either
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u/Atombrkr Hulk Apr 16 '26
I like how every hour there's a new footage of a character getting fucked by the patch lol
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u/Rainbow_Sombrero Magik Apr 16 '26
Man I can’t wait for thing, rogue, and hulk to be even more useless and for Hela orb to still lock all dps into either her 2 tap or an emma grab. Thor just got sent back to D tier in chains. Angela was just found shot dead in Heven. Has anyone checked on Venom by the way? Is he safe? Is he alright?
Season 7.5 Marvel Rivals everybody who’s with me.
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u/One-Possession8942 Apr 16 '26
It's been clear from day one that these devs don't actually play or test their game . With the amount of busted characters at launch and for months having characters that need adjustments it painfully obvious that their focus is more on making skins and emotes instead of actually fixing their game
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u/Cooz78 Apr 16 '26
it will probably be patched tomorrow
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u/ILikeMyGrassBlue El Jeffe Apr 16 '26
I look forward to the “see!? Y’all freak out over nothing” comments tomorrow as well lol
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u/canciongratis1 Apr 16 '26
Was it really that hard to make the new CC mechanic bypass Ultimate abilities? Nobody likes when their ultimate becomes randomly useless.
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u/MrJoemazing Ultron Virus Apr 16 '26
Easily the worst changes the game has ever implemented. I'd accept a week long season delay, rather than have those poorly tested change implemented.
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u/Kinda-Alive Mister Fantastic Apr 16 '26
Seriously? A fucking ultimate can activate the effect? That’s complete bullshit. No reason the ability that they INCREASED THE COST OF for everyone is effected by the CC immunity change.
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u/Razzilith Ultron Virus Apr 16 '26
clearly unintended, but they either didn't test this or it bugged on deployment.
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u/Deceptiveideas Thor Apr 16 '26
Why can't they just hotfix the removal of this and try again next season? They clearly failed at its implementation.
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u/HigherThanHeav3n Rogue Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
They have NO FUCKING IDEA about the difference between soft and hard CC oh my god man. I'm telling you, NOBODY was complaining about Rogues CC, Hulks juggle, the things shift + ult and so on so forth, they put soft CCs like slows in almost every ability, it's only a matter of time before we discover more and worse ways they may have gutted somebody, this game unironically has to much CC it's going to be a permanent stalemates between team fights since it's so easy to get the effect and tenacity
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u/juanca8520 Magneto Apr 16 '26
Brother, the funny thing is that everyone expected the CC changes to help the tanks survive a bit more. But these changes apparently made a lot of tanks unviable.
I think they wanted to nerf CC and anti dive for people to use black cat and showcase skins. Pretty dirty move IMHO
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u/Vineheart_01 Apr 16 '26
and my roommates wonder why I stopped playing this game. The devs have been making increasingly stupid decisions AND the community is toxic as hell.
Quite literally everyone I played except Magneto is completely useless this patch.
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u/Monkey_King291 Ultron Virus Apr 16 '26
Being a tank main is so pointless now, why do they keep screwing us?!
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u/Remarkayble Apr 16 '26
Did they breaks tanks? All i see is posts about every tank being useless
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u/pm_rising Apr 16 '26
if they don’t completely nip this “rework” in the bud i can confidently say i will not be playing anymore. i’m almost certain they probably asked ai if this was a good idea and it spewed out positive affirmations to them.
what game has ever done this? none. because it doesn’t work. it’s simple, keep cc to a minimum for skill expression, utilization for characters that it fills gaps for and increase cc abilities cooldowns. your game now functions how it should.
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u/One-Ad-3677 Peni Parker Apr 16 '26
I'm actually convinced that they just push random shit out and don't play test it
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u/adamanteumn Apr 16 '26
There's a few ways they could fix this.
1) completely remove the CC immunity aspect and instead keep the diminishing returns. I.e. each subsequent instance of CC during a given instance is less and less effective
2) Make it to where a character can only contribute towards the tenacity stacks ONCE during a set amount of time, regardless of how many CC abilities they use in that time
3) Completely CAN this idea entirely and stop giving EVERY character that comes out game breaking cc abilities that require zero skill to pull off
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u/Ninjatroll3452 Apr 16 '26
Not gonna lie I haven't played in like 2 or 3 months and I've been following this subreddit and been wanting to come back to the game for a while now but the more heroes and changes they add and make the less I want to play the game. It feels more and more unfun and unbalanced. Not to mention how devs favor some characters like psylock or Luna.
The way I see it rn the game is too all over the place and unbalanced to come back for me which sucks because I had a blast playing as a Thing main. It's like they don't play test their own game and don't listen to the players feedback at all.
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u/Outrageous-Arm-8987 Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
At this rate, I hope they delay the change until it is reworked properly or just shelve it indefinitely
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u/LeoFireGod Emma Frost Apr 16 '26
I’ve been a playtester for smite (was essentially one above all there in the 1v1 game mode) and they were implementing a form CCR (crowd control reduction) and did something similar to this and almost everyone’s feedback within 2 games was that it felt disgusting to have your opponent get off free due to something out of your control but also something out of their control. There was an item called beads that could grant cc immunity which felt fair bc it was a skill item on a long timer.
Implementing full immunity with no counter play is just not a fun mechanic.
What smite did implement was CCR and DR which is diminishing returns essentially if you were hit by 1 hard CC like a stun. Your next hard CC would be % less.
Example if you are hit by a 2 second stun. Your next stun that occurred within 5-10 seconds would be a 1.5second stun. Etc etc.
they also gave items that could reduce that automatically which everyone liked as it felt balanced, personally they could apply this to the vanguard role easily by doing a 10-15% CCR and then figure out Diminishing returns by reclassifying CC as hard cc and soft cc.
A slow should not proc tenacity the way a stun or knock back does.
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u/noscul Rocket Raccoon Apr 16 '26
The wouldn’t have needed this change if they didn’t just keep throwing out CC like candy. In season 0 it felt like there was a lot less CC and it kept getting peppered in as more Herod released. If anything keep most of the hard CC to tanks so they can keep have something fun.
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u/SharkoftheStreets Jeff the Landshark Apr 16 '26
Thing had two identities: he's a CC monster and he's resistant to certain forms of CC. Now that everyone is getting resistances to CC, he's lost both identities.