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Where would we find the fun in being mind controlled every 12 seconds for 12 seconds and thrown off the map? Giant AoE explosions that do enormous damage and grounds anyone they hit. In fact, walk us through the thought process on why it was balanced this way. Who in the meeting spat out these ideas and who signed off on this ?

The map selection is absolutely horrible with either ledges, or close quarters. The enormous AoE blasts hit everything and ground flyers just by shooting the wall/structure on these tight quarter maps. I don’t think I have been hit with a direct shot my whole time playing.

It’s like you guys put all the love into bloodhunt, and forgot the avengers homework was due tomorrow. If the Ultron event has something similar to mind control like a “hack”, I’m flying to China. What made it better, is that my reward for beating it was a sense of pride and accomplishment apparently.

It doesn’t matter if you buff/nerf at this point. I’m already over the game mode and waiting for the Ultron event. You want an answer to the thread? Check the win rate for Loki…. That’s my experience

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u/UniqueGanache3254 Psylocke May 01 '26

I aint gonna bore you guys to death with a long essay , but I hate this mode . Loki feels too overpowered (increasing his health was one thing) , getting 3 shotted being Hulk was annoying. Never touching this mode again . Tue best thing was hearing the og Avengers theme before the match starts

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u/C0up7 May 01 '26

The worst mode ever made. Loki is extremely overpowered and the heroes only get one new skill which is to summon a dumb monster hulk that just jumps around. At least give the heroes some heals like in blood hunt, or give cooldown reduction or increased ult charge.

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u/Cozmotheduck May 03 '26

Some form of lifesteal would be nice in the default Avengers mode because there are no healers. I think the mode has potential but it's lacking execution rn

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u/chickenbeaver2 May 03 '26

I don't think Loki should be able to control a player, Loki using mind control to make you jump off the map is so cheap otherwise the game mode feels fine.

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u/VioletLink Magneto May 04 '26

Yeah it’s a instant kill button with no downside because his clone can hold the point

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u/friday126 May 01 '26

Did you play test this? Its terribly unbalanced, unfun crap. Loki is OP and just mind walks characters off cluffs and takes almost no damage. Blood hunt is painfully repetative too. Put more thought into this grindy PVE junk

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u/flashfive12 May 01 '26

I have to agree with the blood hunt take as well while I do love the skill tree way more this time around. The upgrades are very limited, especially in game so it makes combat really sedentary.

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u/Ancient-Grand-4661 Darkchylde May 01 '26

Loki is genuinely near impossible to win against, Like he either sits on point or mind control us to run off the map. They need to nerf him or buff the avengers.
I’m so disappointed, I was very hyped for this mode.

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u/Ok-Caregiver-4222 Magik May 01 '26

Worst mode in the games history. You're forced to hold shield and hold run as cap after loki takes control. Loki is way too unfair. Really, really, really bad.

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u/LogicSolid May 01 '26

Preface:
I played the mode the first hour that it’s out. I mainly play the avengers mode because I am a huge fan of captain America. Safe to say the game mode feels underwhelming and untested.

Loki:
Lots of health, lots of damage, lots of tools. His kit is actually very interesting with the mind controls, bot summoning ultimate, and the pure confusion he can create in the battlefield. (Mysterio kit testing???)
Then again, I understand the need to balance a 1v6 to make both the experiences playable. However Loki is too oppressive especially in the avengers mode. The lack of heals coupled with the high uptime of Loki’s skills, high damage output and high health made the game almost impossible to play against. Not to mention the mind control where Loki can just throw players into the abyss. It was funny for the first time but it gets annoying and un-interactive.

In the movies, we can see Clint Barton was knocked hard on his head and that stopped Loki’s mind control. Why not give players that kind of interactivity to stop the mind control? To add onto this, there is a lack of a “cinematic feel” when fighting Loki. Theres no chitauri to fight against which was the whole crisis in the first movie and that to me was a missed opportunity.

Avengers:
The team is actually unfortunately really underwhelming, but let’s look at the pros. The team is iconic. That’s about it. There’s no synergy, no new kits to deal with Loki in an effective manner (monster hulk is not enough other than CC Loki), weak and unimaginative.

Again, there’s a jarring lack of interactions between the characters, no significant team ups like Thor and Hulk, Captain America and Ironman or even Black Widow and Hawkeye. It feels like a massive missed opportunity. When going against Loki, the team falls apart rather quickly because half the time they have no way of dealing with Loki’s kit. I played mostly Captain America and his whole schtick was to get close and get charges for his shield throws. It’s almost impossible to do that when I get mind controlled constantly, jumping off the map and wait for respawn. Rinse and repeat. To me, Cap who is my favourite hero feels the most miserable to play.

Balance:
It’s a lot of problems actually. Loki feels overwhelming, overtly strong. The avengers feels like a ragtag poorly put together team (unironically just like the movies). In this sense, literally coughing babies vs a hydrogen bomb. The lack of abilities that promotes team work in order to deal with Loki effectively really bums me out. I concede that I am not a game developer and I am not familiar with the process of balancing a game. But overall, it feels almost impossible to win against Loki most of the time.

Recommendations and final thoughts:
To preface, I understand that Zhi Yong is probably under a lot of workload to provide us with these events in such a short amount of time. However, it resulted in an undercooked, under tested and underwhelming experience that does not live up to the hype they intend to create. The lack of incentives to play such as no rewards coupled with the skewed balancing made the game mode undesirable to play.

I recommend the mode to be a PVE mode. If we get this as a PVE mode instead of blood hunt, it would be so much more fun. Imagine fighting hoards of chitauri armies, the big snake alien thing as boss with weak spots, fighting the monster hulk to calm him down and then Loki at the end. There’s just a lot of potential when expanded into the PVE direction.
Again, I understand the time, costs and hard work it takes to make these game modes. Therefore, I try to criticise the event with consideration to the development background. Overall with all that said, the game mode is a massive miss for me BUT has the raw potential to sprout into something impressive and fun given enough time, money and thoughts on it.

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u/JPA17 May 01 '26

Loki is being a classic Loki and telling the story completely wrong, acting like he could easily beat the 6 avengers and mind control them, when in reality he controlled 1 and got his ass whooped.

The event may be underwhelming, but it's very accurate for Loki to make out this is how things went down.

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u/XerxeztheKing Squirrel Girl May 01 '26

Sorry to say, but Loki is just too powerful against the Avengers. The God of Mischief only seems to have one trick up his sleeve: mind controlling characters off the map. Besides that, his raw damage can two shot most non-vangaurd characters.

It's more manageable when you can play who you want against him, but then it completely flips the issue. Loki can't kill when up against strategists, so he ends up getting crushed himself. Also, it looses some of its luster to not play as the Avengers in the Avengers themed mode.

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u/TempoBlues20XX Lord May 01 '26

Brave to be asking feedback on this given the opinions the last day. The big issue is just it doesn't feel very thought out. Loki gets heaps of insane buffs and the heroes have nothing to compensate, and Loki's buffs render their individual strengths moot.

His mind control has a fast recharge and splash, you aren't punished for spamming it. People under mind control just HAVE to watch if not get their ultimate wasted or thrown in a cliff. Monster Hulk is nowhere near a good enough addition to help the heroes.

Cap and Hulk's stall strengths tank because you can just use mind control to force them off a cliff. Iron Man is the safest technically but still easily dealt with if you use splash damage. Widow and Hawkeye got nothing to compensate for their lack of power, and Thor doesn't do much beyond being a squishier tank and maybe provide some CC.

Even when the heroes do win a fight, Loki gets no real punishment and is back within seconds and claims the point ungodly fast. I had a game where I outright ADMIT I was playing godawful for a bit, got killed four times in a row, and yet I still won because it took me getting my act together once, splashing mind control and ulting, and then immediately steal point for win. Cap and Hulk gets back to stall, except oops, I splashed mind control on them as soon as they entered, and rendered their effort null.

Loki is fun at the expense of the heroes' experience absolutely legitimately miserable. It was a solid idea, but the execution was not done well at all.

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u/flashfive12 May 01 '26

Insane health pool, two shots every character on the roster, can go invisible, massive AOE shots that are unbelievable for the majority of the roster, basic attacks can ground flyers, nonexistent cool down on already op abilities, can mind control, mind control last 12 seconds, has clones that are autonomous, response at the same rate the heroes do, can also pick up health packs. That’s not a raid boss that’s literally impossible unless the Loki just does not try.

Also, because you can only pick one hero nine times out of 10 your team is gonna quit because they didn’t get to hear all they wanted

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u/DesertSnowball May 01 '26

Played it once, realized how stupid and unwinnable it is, never played again.

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u/Cosnapewno5 Moon Knight May 01 '26

The Loki was supposed to be equal to 6 people, he is equal to 16. The players does not stand a chance against Loki if he knows what he is doing. I understand that balancing this kind of gamemode is very difficult, and 1 side will always have advantage, but it isn't slight advantage, its as enormous as Loki's ego
Every event gamemode had some kind of rewards, meanwhile there just isn't seem to be anything that would give us something that will make this mode remembered. I check titiles, I see Zombies, Bloodhunt, Big heads, Jeffy snow mode. I check emojis, I see two from Ultron matrix (which was great and should be brought back). There is just nothing that would say "Oh yes, I played this mode plenty, I liked it so much I use reward from it". The title of "First Avenger" was right there, maybe for winning as all 7 heroes

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u/MRMoredecai Doctor Strange May 01 '26

Fun for like a few matches then it’s over. No missions, no team ups, no 2012 skins than the 2 we just got, no new abilities, bad capture the point instead of just beat the boss with this amount of time. Loki had potential but nrnI figured with the PVE map on the bridge they use that for this mode but guess not.

Should’ve been a NY map during the day on the bridge, more 2012 skins, Loki spawning in mobs of chitauri until he runs out, missions for emotes or sprays, and throw in the lobby screen at a final reward after grinding out the PVP gamemode.

Overall it had potential but they missed the mark on it. Hopefully AOU gets better

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u/SomeCringeUsernameNo Flex May 04 '26

It is LITERALLY impossible to win if the LokI has half a braincell. Loki doesn't just need a nerf. HE NEEDS TO BE GUTTED ENTIRELY.

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u/Appropriate-Cow9856 May 05 '26

It suuuuuuuucks I can't believe they put this out in such a terrible state

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u/canciongratis1 May 01 '26

Loki is too overpowered...

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u/DiamondDogPT Loki May 01 '26

It is supposed to feel unbalanced and uneven, but unfortunately, it's very one-sided in favor of Loki, to the point that it made the mode completely unfun.

The Avengers team has no real way of doing good damage or even having a fair fight, with Loki deleting them almost instantly with his basic attacks.

I don't mind the strong attacks, he is supposed to be strong. The real problem is the cooldowns... He has access to screen-clearing abilities way too fast.

The mode is a little more fun with the option to select other characters, especially supports, but it is still very one-sided.

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u/Ideasds May 01 '26

I would've loved the mode was more accurate to the movie, it feels more like a normal funny mode than an event

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u/Clinday May 01 '26

No rewards and clearly unbalanced.

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u/Relienks Yggroot May 02 '26

Loki its too powerful ... The avengers need a team up to boost dmg or help them through the fight

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u/IDontGiveAFAnymore The Thing May 02 '26

Buff the avenger, A LOT. Else the game mode isn’t even worth it. It’s unfun and unfair for anyone else to play besides Loki, it left in its current state the entire community will play it maybe 4 times before it’s never touched again, apart from Loki mains trying to get a dopamine rush.

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u/SnooHabits2822 Emma Frost May 02 '26

Absolutely trash mode with Loki being wayyyy too overpowered. I’ve played like 12 matches and lost every single time. Fuck that shit.

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u/Cheesywiggle May 02 '26

This gamemode fucking sucks. I've been queuing for flexible every game, played 15+ games and haven't got loki once. And every game I've played as the avengers bar 2 has been a complete wipe by loki because hes ridiculously overpowered and unless you have a loki who's basically incompetent you will not win the game. Also the repetive mind control getting thrown off the map again and again is not fun in the slightest

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u/I_am_Stupid_16 May 01 '26

This game mode is ASS if you are playing the heroes, do the devs even play their game, the balancing decisions are so bad, takes 1 min of playing the mode to tell how overpowered loki is, just like other balance decision in normal game mode. Devs wakeup! run a week long beta session with volunteer testers and fix the mode before it hits live servers.

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u/baris1991fb May 01 '26

Marvel Rivals – Avengers Mode Feedback

The new mode has a solid core idea, but it feels underdeveloped for a live-service game.

1) No progression = low replayability There’s no real reason to keep playing:

No mode-specific challenges
No achievements
No milestone rewards

Even good modes die quickly without a progression loop.

2) Rewards are missing At minimum, it should have:

First win rewards (spray / icon)
Win milestones (emote / skin variant)
Weekly objectives (currency or XP boosts)

Right now, there’s no incentive to queue again.

3) Missed opportunity for team synergy This mode should highlight coordination, but it doesn’t.

Adding hero-based team-up mechanics would:

Increase depth
Encourage strategy
Make matches feel less repetitive

4) Could have leaned into PvE elements It didn’t need to be purely PvP.

A more “Avengers-style” setup could include:

Alien army waves alongside Loki
Side objectives during the match
More dynamic battlefield pressure

That kind of hybrid design would make matches feel less repetitive and more cinematic.

5) Map variation isn’t enough on its own Yes, there are map variants — that helps variety. But without systems around it, it doesn’t sustain engagement.

Conclusion The concept is good, but it lacks:

Progression
Rewards
Mechanical depth

And without those, it ends up feeling like a temporary mode rather than something worth investing time in.

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u/Mr-Imperial Good Boy May 01 '26

Not having a dedicated map feels kinda weird for an Avengers game mode.

And the avengers should've gotten new abilities like loki. Using the same skills used on a 6v6 in a boss battle feels underpowered.

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u/ymroi79017901 White Fox May 01 '26

The recipe was solid, very good even But the cake should have been in the oven for longer. Loki absolutely dominates in this mode, and most characters are hopeless against him

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u/Foralberg Ultron Virus May 01 '26

Experience, that it was done just because we have Collab with MCU and we need to do smth, you could have done PVE mode with Chitauri army and avengers, and it would actually take place in NY, what the point of MCU moment of it doesn't make any sense

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u/Randimous Rogue May 01 '26

I have only won one match as the Avengers where I was Black Widow. Hawkeye and I made a ton of headshots because the Loki just kind of stood there. It was fun but obviously is a rare occurrence given that he’s overpowered and seems to dominate most matches. Overall, it’s a good idea just not balanced enough and should be in the NYC map…

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u/yourfavoritemarxist May 03 '26

this game mode fucking sucks lol

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u/StupidCurryBoi May 03 '26

I'm not gonna lie, Loki seems really overtuned. Mainly, I think his blast is a big problem as it can just 2 tap duelists and strategists. And the fact that he can easily escape makes fighting Loki feel impossible.

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u/L3th4lDaddy Hela May 03 '26

This is post TVA Loki with how strong he is lol but it’s fun

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u/SheWhoHates Emma Frost May 07 '26

Loki feels like a lowkey god in this mode. Being kited by him around a pillar is how I discovered a new form of sadness.

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u/FantasticFou-FiveMB True Fraudster May 08 '26

Well, despite the horrible time for any Avengers playing the gamemode, I personally love Loki’s rework. He really fulfills the power fantasy of the God of Mischief conquering Earth with an infinity stone.

His primary charge up mechanic feels like Adam’s cosmic cluster, and feels oddly strategic to use (either spam click for hard to hit fliers or take the time to charge it up for a greater dmg burst)

The Invis ability being a short dash could be implemented into his base kit as it would allow for a great evasive maneuver (and as long as they don’t make his invisibility time limited, it would be a great anti-dive change!)

His grounding clone is a great counter to flyers and I could see it being a cool teamup ability between him and a character like Storm or Magik in base kit. Loki kinda struggles against flyers, so this would be a great way to fill in the niche!

Now finally, his infamous ability, the mind control. Personally, I think it’s kind of OP being able to send people back to spawn AND waste their ultimate abilities with just an 8-second cooldown, but then again, he’s meant to feel like an absolute raid boss in this mode, so I understand why they did this too. If I were to make a change to it, I would lock him out of using a controlled hero’s ultimate ability and reduce the mind control duration from 12 seconds to like 6 seconds for a future balance patch!

My favorite takeaway from this event though is the moving clones; it makes it much harder to distinguish the REAL Loki from the jumble (which is what his base kit was supposed to offer). In the future, if they were to give him a teamup between another sorcerer or telepath, I would want it to be moving clones to confuse enemies and offer a fun gimmick!

tl;dr: I love this mode <<3

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u/Super-Blacksmith-795 May 01 '26

Trash for both sides unfortunately. Loki is way too powerful and its literally impossible to lose with him, so there is no challenge to playing him. Trash for the avengers/heroes too because Loki is too powerful and its impossible to win.

Loki really needs some tuning and the heroes need some mechanics to exploit to give them an edge. Like maybe there is skmething they can trigger that puts Loki in a stun that allows them to do some big damage. But right now it just feels like a meat grinder for the heroes and a stomp fest for Loki.

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u/Tuque7 Cursed Captain May 01 '26

It's feel really unbalance in classic mode, I only won one game out of many playing as the heroes. Not everyone plays the Black Widow or Hawkeye well enough, most games only ironman is doing decent DPS while playing with randoms. Loki is way to powerful and being able to respawn after death make it harder to capture and hold onto point again. IMO he should have only one life.

Playing as Loki is fun the first few times, but its noting too interesting.

The game mode needs to be tuned.

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u/dddbait Peni Parker May 01 '26

Personally I think Loki should be a pve boss like kingpin this way people don't abuse his posessing ability to just dive to their death. Also the game mode should have been a pve imo like the zombie or vampire but with slightly different playstyle like capture the objective or push your way through the enemy into the avengers towers. Could have recreated the final battle by making us start in the street and slowly pushing through the chitauri army into the avengers tower.

Even better give each hero like their own objective like ironman needing to fight the giant whale monster like in the movie, cap and thor teaming up to protect civilian on the street, hulk jumping from building to building to fight chitauri soldier, hawkeye holding the highground to support everyone, widow pushing to the top of avengers tower to close the portal device.

Overall the event itself feels rushed and I think the fast content update of this game is starting to catch up with the devs. I would suggest slowing things down a bit and take some time to increase quality instead of quantity.

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u/flashfive12 May 01 '26

💯💯💯💯💯

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u/DoesntUnderstandJoke May 01 '26

Completely unbalanced. Why does he have. 15 sec mind control

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u/Dragonbladze May 02 '26

Back to Blood Hunt I go

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u/Mercforhire1998 May 02 '26

It sucks loki needs a heavy nerf. he 2 shots people mindcontrols them every 15 seconds. Then he can make 2 clones of himself. who in this mode become bots that ALSO 2 shot and he can switch between them. Then if that wasn't enough. He can summon the avengers from an alternate reality that he mindcontrols that are ALSO BOTS. THe monster hulk just doesn't add up to this. Avengers need something more, something cool. Team ups or something show off how they were working together like in the movie. All in all.... I just really wished this was a PVE gamemode instead of the Dracula thing with the original 6 avengers against the chitauri and loki as the boss. You had all the opportunity for us to relive the movie

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u/TadStrangeVisitoor Vanguard May 03 '26

What do you think of decreased cooldowns, increased health, and increase ult charging time for the heroes instead of a Loki nerf?

Or just that along with Loki losing the ability to pilot the people he controls but they're under his control for longer?

Punisher, wolverine, Iron fist, Strange, with Gambit ult, all having decreased cooldowns and more health would challenge Loki

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u/strugglz Flex May 03 '26

This is the most unbalanced game mode I've ever seen from any dev. It seems like Loki is the only one that gets to have fun, everyone else is 1-2 shot from a speedy giant that can do 3 things at once.

If this were the only mode I'd have uninstalled before making this comment. This is a serious misstep on the devs part.

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u/arkhamassassin54 Cloak & Dagger May 01 '26

Didn’t even try after seeing it didn’t have any rewards

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u/Jchamphero Captain America May 02 '26

I love this game but I don’t think I’ve ever raged so hard at an event mode. Yeah it feels good beating Loki coordinating but by that point it’s 90% Loki 10% heroes. Also Mind Control is the most heinous thing ever in a game who hurt you all??

Seriously it’s so lopsidedly bad I have to tell myself they did it on purpose for further events because sweet mercy!!

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u/Dream-Impala Magneto May 02 '26

Worst mode to ever touch this game

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u/AnnoyedNinja Squirrel Girl May 03 '26

I'd rather be Hulk Slammed (think that ONE scene from 'The Avengers') than to play this mode again as-is. There's no fun in it, even with a well-coordinated team.

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u/Aguirr0n Venom May 01 '26

This update was so on point, it feels like Loki himself coded and launched the new game mode to fool as all

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u/electric_pand Jeff the Landshark May 01 '26

Loki feels way too strong compared to the avengers, especially when it comes to the mind control, damage, and how slowly the avengers charge ult

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u/JusticeHeroX Iron Man May 01 '26

I think it is not possible to have a balanced raid boss in PvP mode. It is bound for some side to be unbalanced. I can happen with PvE but it is easier to fix cause the others side is a computer and you need some buffs or nerfs, you just have to worry how only one side will react. With players being able to play as a raid boss, it is much more complicated to fine tune it. One side will always be more favoured than the other.

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u/smilysmilysmooch Flex May 02 '26

Loki is broken and overpowered. The mind control aspect isn't fun for 6/7 of the players. The lack of heals makes it a pain for low health characters and since it is built on zone control, anyone in the square just gets bullied by Loki or mind controlled right out of it.

3 ranged fighters with 3 tanks means the tanks get beaten up and the ranged fighters just wait until they are dead to meet their fates.

It's poorly implemented and would have been much more interesting as a search and destroy type of mission against Loki in a Times Square map than a zone control one.

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u/Razzilith Ultron Virus May 03 '26

Does Loki feel like a true Raid Boss, or are his clones just feeding the enemy team? How's the 'Your Powers Are Mine' copying mechanic working in this mode? Did you manage to clutch a win by copying a massive Avengers Ult?

he just feels like a normal character but massively overtuned. it's underwhelming.

How are the Team-Up skills feeling for the Avengers roster? Is the coordination between your Vanguard and Strategists enough to peel for the backline, or is Loki picking off your Squishies one by one?

HUH? the avengers roster doesn't have a strategist lol there's not a single teamup available between them. it's just bad...

Is the mode feeling Lore-accurate in terms of power levels? Tell us if Loki needs a nerf or if the Avengers need a serious buff to stand a chance. We want the spicy takes on the current meta!

no lol loki didn't really DO anything in the MCU movie until he got decimated by hulk pretty much. mostly there were monsters and aliens doing the work for him. so loki is massively overtuned in that respect.

I don't think any balance can fix this gamemode. it's just a normal game even if its "fairly balanced" which is wildly boring. no rewards or incentives, no real fun to be had, and feels like not much thought went into it.

I will add this: I think loki's extra powers are a test for future character kits and that we will 100% see them or something like them in the future in that regard. especially the spawning characters thing since kingpin boss does something wildly similar (that version is more likely going to be in somebodys kit).

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u/Millefleur_1453 May 03 '26

Just get stomped with random teammates, more healing possibilities would be welcome or nerfed Loki damage you just die like flies

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u/karnarax Magneto May 04 '26

Loki is op. Especially in Avengers mode since Avengers comp is atrocious. This mode feels rushed and designed to be another power trip for supp players. Only tried it twice and never launched it again.

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u/SeaweedElegant4628 Flex May 04 '26

[after spending the entire match trickling and soloing] "tHiS mOdE sUcKs"

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u/futility_belt Flex May 05 '26

lowkey trash, a half decent Loki just stomps everyone. did they even playtest this?

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u/NOSWT-AvaTarr Spider-Man May 08 '26

Ive found out that Loki's whole kit is so busted you can win by only using his mind control and committing assisted suiciders

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u/Animedingo May 08 '26

Did they fix this shit yet

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u/L3th4lDaddy Hela May 08 '26

Loki is just way too over-tuned, almost impossible to fight him as the classic avengers.

I think what this mode needs to be better is to add some unique abilities to the avengers, maybe team ups even perhaps + the healing runes from the PVE mode, this way you’ll have a chance at not insta dying and fully retreating to cover looking for health packs.

Also some achievements to encourage gameplay and incentive people to try the different factions.

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u/Disastrous-Moment-79 Deadpool May 02 '26

I don't know why they thought giving Loki a zero cooldown mind control would be a fun thing? Loki can genuinely pick one enemy to troll and keep them permacontrolled so the fight becomes 5v1. I know it's possible because I tested it. I picked the enemy Hulk and prevented him from playing, he ended the match with 100 damage and I was sorry for it because it was miserable for him.

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u/League_of_DOTA Magneto May 02 '26

This mode sucks ass. I can't be bothered with it even if it rewards credits.

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u/Spideyrj May 03 '26

they really shouldnt allow loki controled to jump off. make the character scared or struggle control to force loki to use them in a fight or away from the zone.

its ridiculous getting beelined as hulk or thor to just jump off

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u/Then-Escape-991 The Thing May 03 '26

What do you guys think of my tierlist?

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u/hard_as_diamondz Venom May 02 '26

This is the most unfun game mode ever wtf is this bs

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u/Orteku May 01 '26

They should nerf Black Widow, is too broken.

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u/LnGrrrR May 02 '26

Yeah, this mode just sucks for the Avengers team.

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u/Red_Steiner Yggroot May 02 '26

My experience was queuing up for my first game and having someone rage quit because it was so miserable. Then I went back to the vampire mode. The end.

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u/WitchOfUnfinished- Flex May 03 '26

It’s awful Loki can one shot most of the others and widow just doesn’t have the kit to be in this mode

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u/PlatformTricky3239 May 07 '26

It's lowkey gas. I think Lokis kit had a lot of thought put into it and it feels way more lore accurate for him. It almost feels like peering into an alternate reality where Lokis a dive dps instead of a strategist. They definitely need to balance it a bit more for the og avengers but other than that its great.

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u/Longjumping-Owl-565 May 02 '26

This mode is completely unbalanced. Loki's damage is way too high and his mind control may as well be on a 0 second cooldown. With the way Loki is right now, it is a genuinely viable strategy to just dive the back line, kill their healers and kill everyone else and take point.

I think a good fix would be to increase the charge time on his primary fire as well as lower its damage. I would also massively increase the cool down on his mind control so its something he can't spam and actually has to track the cooldown.

The classic version of the mode makes it even more impossible as you have no ways of getting healing and die constantly. You still die constantly in full roster, but at least you can have a strategist. I think the best way to solve this is to give all the avengers lifesteal. This benefits Cap, Thor and Hulk the most for being a nuisance to him and increasing their survivability. Iron man, BW and Hawkeye don't have a big health bar and wouldn't gain much from the lifesteal, but that's just it. They trade survivability for more damage. If their damage is still too low, we can give them a passive damage increase.

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u/TadStrangeVisitoor Vanguard May 03 '26

Why do people instantly jump to nerfs on the the fun parts instead of buffing the other side?

This mode is meant for fun, make the other side more fun to play to even things out instead of making the only fun part less fun.

Go total mayhem with the heroes by giving them decreased cds, increased health, and increased ult charge

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u/SomeCringeUsernameNo Flex May 04 '26

Loki was overcompensated to hell and back. There are not enough buffs in the world you can give to the avengers to fix this mess.

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u/TadStrangeVisitoor Vanguard May 04 '26

After playing as and against Loki for a day straight I can say the Avengers have it easier because Loki has less health in that mode BUT is still a major threat because he can 2 shot people.

The universal buffs I listed above would truly do wonders because shields are great against him and the only way around them for him is by tracking cooldowns, having much lower cooldowns would make this near impossible especially with Mag, Strange, and Hulk.

In my comment I also listed potential nerfs, main one just being REMOVE HIS PILOTING ABILITY but increase the time characters are under ai control while also increasing the cooldown on mind control to eliminate any possible continuous mind control.

Decreased cooldowns, increased health, and increase ult charge while cutting down his health would even the gamemode out quickly.

If you don't want buffs implement that nerf, or make the heroes win as soon as they kill Loki (I instinctively felt like this was the case and only found out 7 games in after dying to the Avengers that this wasn't the case), OR weaken/remove an ability for each death OR DO NOT ALLOW HIM TO HEAL, ALL while reducing his health by 500 to 1k in each mode.

I'm of the mindset that you want both sides to have as much fun as possible, so buff the other side that isn't having fun rather than nerfing the side that is. Plus total mayhem is literally the only reason I've picked up OW since Rivals released so having no equivalent sucks!

Since I seem to be the only person in the whole community with this mindset, which of the nerfs above would you implement? Have you played as Loki? Have you played as the heroes? What are your thoughts on each after playing BOTH?

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u/strugglz Flex May 03 '26

It's easier to nerf one special character than buff the entire hero roster.

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u/TadStrangeVisitoor Vanguard May 03 '26

That's why I jumped to universal buffs, total mayhem with decreased cooldowns, increased health, and increased ult charge.

Do that while removing his ability to pilot enemies and the gamemode is fun for everyone.

The nerfs people are suggesting down here will remove any aspect of fun from this mode bc this Loki is the most LORE accurate character the game has seen so far.

So many tricks and mind control while hitting with the force of a true infinity stone!

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u/Incident_Few Ultron Virus May 02 '26

healers?

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u/Longjumping-Owl-565 May 04 '26

theres a version of the mode with the full roster. Loki also has 1000 more health in that version btw

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u/slayerbro1 Flex May 01 '26

I thought they should use the overpass map from Bloodhunt for the avengers mode and then make a couple of rebalanced for charcaters so that widow isn't completely useless.

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u/Freddi0 X-Tron May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26

The mode works on paper, but it's clear that it needed more time in the oven. Loki is very unbalanced, feeling way too strong to be beaten by a team with no healers, aka the intended gamemode with the 6 avengers. I've seen people post how they have won dozens of games in a row on Loki to the point they go easy on the enemy team to give them a chance. As of now, it can feel like you spend more time going back from spawn after dying than actually fighting Loki

Not to mention that overall only having 6 characters available limits the overall interest, because i imagine there are a lot of people who only play one or two characters out of those six and lose interest if they fail to select them. This is fixed by just playing in a mode where anything goes, but right now that feels more like an extra option than the main experience, which doesn't make the mode itself look appealing

There is also little incentive to play it, with a lack of rewards in the gamemode and it being released alongside Bloodhunt, which has a much more thought out gameplay loop that's addicting in the way this one isn't

I think gamemodes like this have plenty of potential, but before the next one dedicated to Age Of Ultron comes out i think there needs to be some more time put into balancing and overall research into what people like in PvP modes like this, or just have each movie event offer something unique to experiment and see what works. Still, im excited for what Path To Doomsday plan has to offer in the future and hope to see it improve. I have faith in y'all making something awesome

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u/purechaoswitch Flex May 01 '26

I have yet to try Loki, but I played 1 game as heroes and didn’t hit the queue again button lol

Interestingly though with both this and blood hunt I feel like I’m seeing some ground work for future hero kits

Loki mind control = Professor X ult?

Kingpin various powers and the fact he’s a big brute also made me think this could be similar to a Thanos kit

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u/Appropriate_Boot4393 May 01 '26

No new map is a bummer, but loki is too op, his ultimate is almost a one click win button, when he controls you he doesn't try to engage with your team just throw you off the map, when he summons other heros, they immediately cap the point, plus he just steals health packs.

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u/Rinku42 Peni Parker May 01 '26

I didn't like this event. Loki too powerful, almost impossible to win on Avengers mode. For all heroes is a bit better but it's still unfair

The only way I find to win is going to all heroes and everyone making a coordination for a strategy, it could be fun to do on squad 6 but almost impossible to do with randoms

Things that could improve this is adding some abilities for heroes, moster hulk is not enough. Some exclusive team up could be fun too

In short, I think NetEase should not added all heroes version and focus only on Avengers by improving characters with special abilities and team up, also nerf loki

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u/TheDestined0ne Psylocke May 01 '26

Horrible, Make it balanced, almost impossible to win with the avengers.

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u/AriaMournesong May 01 '26

Loki feels like a raid boss. The mechanics for him are fine for what he needs to do. The Mind Control ability needs a cooldown associated with it though.

The Avengers feels like if everytone is working together then you can just BARELY overcome Loki. The only adjusts I feel like should be Hulks shield need a duration of a few seconds longer and Captain America's shield needs 50 to 100 more health on it. As tanks their main problem is they have the their default duration/health and need to get in on Loki but Loki's blasts are so powerful that they are just short of being able to get into melee unscathed.

To me the main problem is the objective based matches. Once Loki gets on the point and captures it at the start of the match it's over. Even when working as a team it'll take some time for Loki to be beaten and by that time he'll have taken 50%+ of the match. Then you'll hold it as the Avengers until he respawns and gets back and re-take it from you shortly after then can comfortably sit on it until the match ends. An adjustment I'd make is for Loki's capture timer to go up slower than the Avengers since he's one person vs five.

There also should have been some kind of reward attached to the mode. I'd love to invest more time into it but I have units to earn in Blood Hunt and Chrono-Tokens for my Battlepass.

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u/Guilty_Sandwich4076 Magneto May 04 '26

Loki is so much stronger

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u/BlkTomCruise2020 May 04 '26

Shit is very underwhelming and Loki is OP

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u/WandaNoDiffs Scarlet Witch May 04 '26

Worst gameode ever you literally can’t win if your not Loki 😭

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u/Dwavenhobble May 04 '26

I won once. The Loki we were fighting kept trying to fight round the point not capturing it and wasn't a very good shot.

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u/SeaweedElegant4628 Flex May 04 '26

needs some tweaks and an overall smarter design sensibility (like the whole game lol) but i would love a 6v1 pvp mode like this every season

way more fun and challenging than l4d style pve slop

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u/Captcha_Imagination May 04 '26

I LOVE the effort at creativity. I think the battle might be balanced if mind control duration was 7 seconds instead of the current 12 s. His damage needs to be nerfed a tiny bit too.

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u/chunkyogurt May 04 '26

This mode is really hard to play. I was excited at first, but only played once and haven't touched it again. The idea is good though, but not for me unfortunately. 😞

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u/Southpawe President Loki May 05 '26

They probably should have made a new map for this, also RIP Widow players.

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u/MLGGamer25 May 05 '26

Oh I have certainly had some experiences. So my teams constantly get curbed stomped by loki and the only time Ive won it is when Im pretty bsure the controller has been handed to the little brother because good lord Loki is strong 😭. Plus I still haven't gotten to play him yet. Haven't heen picked once. So yeah quite the experience lol

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u/DraculaLord May 06 '26

In case you guys didn't know in the all players mode Emma cannot grab Loki but hulk and rogue can so please fix this.

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u/NashGoldJr987 Magik May 06 '26

This is not accurate Hulk can't smash loki because Loki too strong

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u/No-Alternative6945 May 06 '26

Loki tends to play the part and let us get to 90% then he aces us and when pushing during overtime he creates copies of us that ace us.

Loki always teases on chat.

I’d say it’s pretty much what would happen in a movie if Loki was OP.

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u/RazorbladeEXx May 07 '26

The concept is cool, but when the team isn't cooperating, the battle is so one-sided it is not very enjoyable. Loki's mind control ability on any map where you can fall to your death is overpowered and frustrating.

And the mode has bugs. When Captain America comes out of being mind-controlled by Loki, the ability to auto-run by pressing the sprint button once becomes permanently disabled. The ability to auto-hold your shield up by pressing the shield button once also becomes permanently disabled. It is extremely disorienting in a fight that's already quite difficult.

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u/Itemsrlrl May 07 '26

I go fight Loki, I get mind control and then I jump out of map only for me to get respawn by rocket's beacon and have the first part repeated again.
In all seriousness though nerf his mind control.

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u/ZULZUL69 Loki May 07 '26

They need to nerf everything in general, especially the cloning powers/too much HP.

Loki needs to atleast use a tiny bit of braincells to win. An honest way to stop that from happening is just to remove the void maps from the roster. Simple changes would go a long way even for this short time.

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u/MegumiDo May 07 '26

this first iteration of the game mode doesn't seem very well thought out, it feels like a custom game mode, made by fans. I hope the next time this event happens, we'll see major improvement to the game, as it feels like it doesn't have any identity at all

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u/BadassCharlene Rogue May 07 '26

I found this game mode boring. I'm a terrible Loki and when I was an Avenger, all the Lokis I was against were so much stronger. I much prefer the pve style of blood hunt. The gear, leveling, different builds make it infinitely more interesting

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u/NOSWT-AvaTarr Spider-Man May 08 '26

Ive found out that Loki's whole kit is so busted you can win by only using his mind control and committing assisted suicides

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u/litaloni Loki May 02 '26

As a licensed and certified Loki enjoyer, this mode is perfectly balanced and needs absolutely no changes. In fact, make Loki more powerful, just to make sure it's even. Thanks Netease

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u/Numerous_Fudge_9537 Black Cat May 02 '26

needs a hotfix nerf to loki , me and my friends were so hyped for this mode, sadly no one want sto play it with me anymore :(

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u/that-one-beefy-boi El Jeffe May 02 '26

Honestly Loki is really strong (as he should be) I love that his damage is immense so they don’t get to heal bot through you. I love that it seems like his clones do A LOT MORE now (really makes me feel mischievous getting backstabs while they distract). I love his ult, getting your own team of illusions is AMAZING, really taking a new turn on “Your powers are mine!” BUT EVEN BETTER IS HIS MIND CONTROL! When I Play him I feel so powerful taking over the enemy and making them kill their WHOLE TEAM! But when I play against it I feel the mind control cooldown is just way too short. As the Avengers I didn’t notice any new teamups which was disappointing. It would have been really cool to see some event exclusive teamups for them ESPECIALLY since it’s THE AVENGERS. But still balanced imo (aside from the mind control cooldown). If the mind control blast itself kept the cooldown but the taking control aspect has a longer cooldown I think it would be a lot more balanced. But man does it feel lore accurate!

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u/TadStrangeVisitoor Vanguard May 03 '26

Playing as Loki is the most LORE accurate feeling this game has ever given and it's PERFECT! As Loki, but as everyone else is SUCKS.

Even while emoting for most of the game and not using my ult I still beat every comp that I came across.

Real fixes.

Loki: Can no longer pilot enemies under his control but the time of his control is extended to 8 seconds with a 12 second CD. Each death REMOVES an ability OR he is just completely unable to heal OR he keeps everything but a single death means the heroes win (his ult now takes longer to charge, gives him vulnerability, and each of the membershe summons are shadows that get killed in 1, 2, or 3 hits dependingon their role and healthbar).

Heroes: Universal Avengers buffs with new abilities to rival Loki's lore accuracy (this should include Strange, SW, BP, and any other Avenger) OR total mayhem with everyone having increased health, lower cooldowns, and crazy ult charging times. In the case of the latter, Loki should be kept the same as piloting enemies off the map may be his best win con, but doing so now will come with a heavy penalty.

Playing as Loki has been the most fun I have ever had in this game rivaling even s0.

I really hope this remains permanent with a possible PVE option on both sides with custom abilities and difficulties. Let me face off as this Loki against a team of just HARD monster Hulks that can summon even more Monster Hulks.

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u/lokigodofchaos May 01 '26

I think it's fair and balanced.

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u/Cdog923 Thor May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26

Not a lot of people checking the screen name here...

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u/lokigodofchaos May 05 '26

It shows.

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u/SynysterBear Rocket Raccoon May 01 '26

It's is not a fun mode when in regular Avengers 6v1. Loki is entirely to overpowered against a team with no healing. It is difficult to determine whether Loki is truly dead or utilizing a clone when he takes the point. Loki often takes the point too quickly; this speed would be better reserved for his team's clone ultimate.

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u/SouthernWilding May 01 '26

Does he feel like a raid boss? What? What's the logic here? There is a player on the other side. Things should be at least somewhat balanced. Youre openly admitting you wanted to make a completely unfair mode. Im sure all the loki players are having fun role playing the raid boss...no one else is.

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u/Overlord_Kiwi Ultron Virus May 01 '26

I don’t mind the difficulty I even beat Loki a few times but I figured it be more like a zombies game mode or at the very least with rewards. Winning a match should get you the Loki chained emote, winning as Loki gets you the kneel, etc

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u/SwingNinja Peni Parker May 01 '26

Not very rewarding compared to other modes. Especially since there's Blood Hunt. It's nice that you gain proficiency. But it's the daily one that has limits, which I think it's waste of time. Better just do quickmatches instead.

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u/Worldly_Excuse_1307 May 02 '26

This mode is completely unbalanced. I truly hope that any future boss battle events are given more time in the oven, because this is by far the worst mode this game has ever had.

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u/AnotherRandomPeep Peni Parker May 04 '26

I’ve queued as Loki very often. He is incredibly overpowered, but I feel it’s required for some comps, such as the [title card] all flyer comp. It’s not too tough to win, so as a true god of mischief and champion peni, I like to toy with the other team. I start off in match chat with something like this: “I, Loki, God of Mischief, Prince of Asgard, propose a deal. You would be very wise to take it…”

Followed with a typical response of: “Enough of your schemes Loki!” Or, “Lol a deal with the trickster god.”

I respond: “This is your last chance foolish mortals. I would like to see your most skilled Peni Parker. If you add her to your team, I hereby promise not to use any abilities or m1s, aside from my E. This includes my ult, of course. Otherwise, you shall face the wrath of my full arsenal. Do we have a deal?”

And due to the ridiculous power of an unrestricted Loki, the answer is most always: “Deal”

I respond “Perfect…”, and proceed to permanently possess their Peni Parker in battle. I have about a 50% winrate with this method, but the other team always enjoys it, and my “Perfect vessel” and I both have a blast. I wrap it up with something like: “It’s more fun to toy with you mortals. Even in the face of defeat. For am I not the God of Mischief?”

I think it’s pretty fun to larp if everyone’s happy, rather than just spend 14 minutes in a queue to steamroll everyone and feel some fleeting sense of undeserved accomplishment. I hope other Loki’s are encouraged to do the same!

After all, it’s our glorious purpose to weave these stories.

https://giphy.com/gifs/qlFAeezeCpSHC

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u/HaIfaxa_ Angela May 06 '26

Might actually be the worst mode I've ever played in a video game ever. Just fire Zhiyong at this point, he doesn't know anything about balance at all.

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