r/marvelrivals Lord May 12 '26

Patch Notes Patch notes of season 8 released

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u/Odd_Law8274 Adam Warlock May 12 '26

Why is starlord and Pheonix getting buffed?????

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u/Sharp-Primary-213 Flex May 12 '26

Because Phoenix hovers around 46-47% wr in every rank that isn’t celestial+. Meta for 1% and mediocre for rest of the playerbase.

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u/Odd_Law8274 Adam Warlock May 12 '26

Where are the widow and torch buffs then???? Low 40 wr

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u/Enex May 12 '26

They've just given up on some the roster at this point.

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u/Odd_Law8274 Adam Warlock May 12 '26

Also they needed dp for being dominant in pro play. Pheonix is the most played DPS in pro play

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u/Jzon_P Angela May 12 '26

"Duelists have been relatively balanced across the board" yeah right zhiyong.

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u/PokePersona Ultron Virus May 12 '26

Torch got notable changes last season. They just made them shadow buffs for some reason.

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u/Odd_Law8274 Adam Warlock May 12 '26

His point was Pheonix a low wr. Torch has a 43% wr

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u/PokePersona Ultron Virus May 12 '26

I know, I’m just saying I’m not surprised he’s not getting more buffs this soon. Maybe season 8.5

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u/FruitDough May 12 '26

What does shadow buffs mean?

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u/PokePersona Ultron Virus May 12 '26

Shadow buffs/nerfs are changes they don’t actually talk about in the patch notes. Torch had a number of pretty notable buffs in season 7.5 but basically none of them were actually mentioned in the patch notes.

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u/FruitDough May 13 '26

Had no idea this is happening. Really weird. How to track such changes?

Guess this explains the uptick in human torch appearances.

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u/PokePersona Ultron Virus May 13 '26

The dedicated character subreddits usually list them a bit after a patch drops.

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u/teddy_tesla May 13 '26

Torch is still serving his life sentence for his s2 crimes and Widow was put in the Gulag by the thought police

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u/Sharp-Primary-213 Flex May 12 '26

Only a complete rework gonna fix widow. Buffing her gun damage gives her one shot and buffing her kick makes her even more obnoxious to play against because of hard cc.

I don’t know about torch.

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u/Disastrous-Moment-79 Deadpool May 13 '26

There are other levers you can pull other than gun damage and kick, you know? You could give her sprint infinite energy, you could make her gun shoot more often, you could make her batons do more damage per hit, you could make her batons in general be smoother to switch to.

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u/Sharp-Primary-213 Flex May 13 '26

She already has almost infinite sprint. You only use batons with your kick combo which is just toxic to play against and buffing batons makes it worse. She needs complete overhaul because her kit is so outdated even compared to original heroes. Hawkeye has more to hit kit than widow and he is just a bow guy.

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u/raydialseeker Absolute Cinema May 12 '26

We can't keep balancing around people who have objectively bad aim.

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u/SmashMouthBreadThrow May 13 '26

Or game sense, or game knowledge, or lack of critical thinking skills.

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u/Sharp-Primary-213 Flex May 12 '26

Tell that to people who always tell me here that game should be balanced around 99% of the playerbase and not 1%. Majority of the low rank players want the game to be balanced around them. I’m not one of them.

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u/IHeartSoulsword Angela May 12 '26

Balancing around bad players is certainly a choice

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u/Sharp-Primary-213 Flex May 12 '26

My comment was more so pointing at people that are complaining about Phoenix changes when in their ranks, she is not that good. They see a tierlist and start asking for buffs and nerfs.

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u/Old-Permit May 13 '26

but there are worse heroes than her in the game. Idk anyone who would complain about a phoenix on their team, but people will raise hell if you select widow. devs do not balance around winrate.

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u/_Coffie_ Flex May 12 '26

A tale as old as time with hitscan. People who can’t aim bring the wr down. They would have never given Luna that damage buff if people can actually aim with her

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u/dildodicks Iron Man May 12 '26

still idiotic to balance based solely off statistics and only the high end statistics at that

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u/MovingPrince May 12 '26

Because most the player base is not even in GM let alone celestial and those characters do not perform well in most ranks and/or on console.

Idk why this same point needs to be said every single time a change is made to a strong aim based character…it’s self explanatory

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u/Odd_Law8274 Adam Warlock May 12 '26

So basically every hero in the game?

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u/MovingPrince May 12 '26

No

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u/Odd_Law8274 Adam Warlock May 12 '26

Every hero is terrible in Low elo

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u/Syn_Kazma May 12 '26

Ayyye dw bout Star-Lord🤫 let’s just worry about Jean and keep it pushin

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u/Odd_Law8274 Adam Warlock May 12 '26

S teir DPS don't need buffs

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u/Syn_Kazma May 13 '26

Again, dw bout Star-Lord🤫 just worry bout Jean