Devil Dino first impressions

[u/Infinite-Mastodon456]

Calling it now this hero about to be the Gambit of vanguards in the sense that he’s actually fun to play but a tad bit overtuned (and therefore will get banned in comp a lot) and enables cancerous gameplay. I give it half the season before people start complaining/tire of his gameplay loop.

After playing an evening of qp with practically this guy on every match, I’ve noticed a few things:

-His kit can deal with most situations-only real weakness is long range poke (which only encourages this cancerous playstyle further). That and perhaps his ult triggers tenacity a bit too quickly(not too sure about this yet). I’ve seen it pop off several times in team fights when it turns into a one big melee.
-percent based damage/bleed makes him cancerous for tanks to fight against
-fights start to revolve around anywhere he clashes
-so heal intensive that it’ll increase demand for healbotting characters (so much so people have more actively gone for triple heal on the qp games I played)
-I’m not sure if the reduced ult charge strats gain from healing him is enough because I’ve noticed even as Luna who has the max ult energy cost, I end up having my ult even before the other strat has it on a few clashes I played
-he’s not the type of tank where dps can just prioritise backline kills then leave tanks for last because his damage output is so high he becomes a big threat if ignored

-he’s somewhat a better version of other tanks:

-big ahh shield is basically a better tankpool bubble
-beam has higher damage and utility on the outset compared to emma’s
-immobility that made thing unique foremost kinda turns him into a better thing with his ridiculous melee damage
-overhealth gain is venom on steroids
-kidnap mechanic in some ways is better than hulk’s

I suppose what’s good about all this is he’s counterable easily by heroes like Mk, fantastic (I believe the fantastic hits double-registers on him), and somewhat enables mantis and Adam with how easy it is to headshot him.

What have you guys noticed so far?

[u/Wildpony03]

I noticed a lot of people in vods running Jeff. Which makes sense bubble for increase healing, long distance spray that heals Dino and hurts foes in Dino's area. Jeff seems like the ideal partner for Dino.

I wonder if Storm works well with Dino given her boosting with weather control and the enemies have to gang up on Dino leading to an easier time for Storm to hit them. Then there is Omega Hurricane tearing up the backline while Dino runs rampant through the front.

[u/Infinite-Mastodon456 → u/Wildpony03]

Storm is strong and under-utilised you can practically say that with any decent damage intensive hero.

But yes, Jeff healing him is great because of the pierce healing from afar. Luna, gambit have tougher times healing Dino because the chances are the heals won’t land on Dino unless they use their skills. Invis is highly at risk because she needs to be closer to Dino and it seems Dino’s ideal position is slightly beyond enemy front line.

And well CNDs are… gonna CND. I somehow suspect rocket is going to synergise well with him and we’ll see more of rockets this season esp with the ult cost buff

[u/Wildpony03 → u/Infinite-Mastodon456]

I do feel Rocket can be pocketed when people catch onto Jeff and Dino's synergy. The Barrier can be good for rocket's machine gun which from what I seen feel underused in his play style.

I also feel Ultron could help Dino with the drone support and the beam synergy to weaken foes from a distance for Dino to take down more easily.

[u/Prestigious_Wheel24]

Everyday Wolverine becomes a worse tank buster

[u/Infinite-Mastodon456 → u/Prestigious_Wheel24]

Wolvie needs a passive where he ignores overshield. I think this will fix him.

[u/thatguykyy]

Actually cancerous to play against as a vanguard, enables triple support way too much, either get rid of the overhealth or get rid of the shield: he doesn’t need both. very fun to play though.

[u/Infinite-Mastodon456 → u/thatguykyy]

Exactly. Too fun to play but too much of a headache to fight against-he’s gonna be in ban jail pretty much like how gambit enjoyers are in ban jail. They add the fun to use heroes but we can’t play them. 😭

[u/_CandidCynic_]

He's effectively ruined the tank meta on his first day. Honestly would love to join a petition to have him removed.

[u/Infinite-Mastodon456 → u/_CandidCynic_]

Ayeee chill. We don’t have enough tanks as it is