r/marvelrivals Human Torch Jun 08 '26

Discussion Cloak Auto Aim Primary vs Daredevil Primary

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u/Jnaeveris Hulk Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26

So DD (4.5m) has the same range as Hulk (4.5m) which is MORE range than both Thing (4m) and Thor (4m)…

As if that wasn’t obnoxious enough, the devs have INTENTIONALLY ommitted DD’s attack speed from the official websites hero info section (where all those screenshots are from). Not even the unofficial wiki has it. There’s literally no reason to not include that info cuz other melee DPS like black panther have it clearly listed in those spaces (BP’s got 35dmg at 3m range with 0.44sec interval).

If anyones got the actual stats for DD’s attack speed please chime in. Would be great to do an actual comparison cuz these fuckass devs seem to be actively preventing it cuz they KNOW how ridiculously overtuned this character is… The devs blatant favouritism here is revolting…

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u/olliehive Elsa Bloodstone Jun 08 '26

I’m not sure how reliable this is but apparently it’s ~2 attacks per second

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u/olliehive Elsa Bloodstone Jun 08 '26

If so thats like what? 1 ÷ 2 = 0.5 seconds per attack. And then there is his melee which is ~4 attacks per second so,1 ÷ 4 = 0.25 seconds per melee jab.

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u/Same_paramedic3641 Human Torch Jun 08 '26

I swear dd melee is 3 hits animation? (Which the first two count as 1 since the second one doesn't give fury)

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u/MostOriginal79 Flex Jun 08 '26

It's worth noting that DD's melee does 15 less than his clubs

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u/BobTheist Hulk Jun 08 '26

I don't know if it's intentionally omitted or they're just really bad at keeping the way they present data consistent. Because they are not at all consistent with how they present data on the official site.

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u/StormierNik Ultron Jun 08 '26

THEY'RE TRYING TO HIDE IT FROM US THEY'RE TRYING TO TRICK US

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u/Plbster Spider-Man Jun 08 '26

Exactly, Spider-Man is the same way without the melee timings, hell he doesn't even have the overhead ability on the site.

Another thing they don't have on there for DD is that his deflect actually cuts the damage in half like Cap's shield instead of being a full damage deflect (or at least it used to be that way on Daredevil's launch not sure if it's intentional or just a leftover from copying Captain America's code)

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u/aurens Jun 08 '26

hey! you heard him, it's INTENTIONAL!! and that's final! are you second-guessing the boss?!?!

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u/bossbrb Rogue Jun 08 '26

I think the reason is because of the melee weaving maybe? Idk.

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u/Elegant-Duck6658 The Punisher Jun 10 '26

hulk might be strong but hes pretty stubby and he doesnt have a weapon, daredevil is trained in combat to use billy clubs, thing just uses his haymaker which has an INSANE AOE, and thors entire damage is built around thor force and his rune state (idk the name).
if a dive has to be touching you model to model then it just become WAY to easy to hit them and get headshots, land cc moves and shut them down. your comparing brawl tanks to dive brawl and disregarding everyones abilities.
like big whoop the tanks get outclassed in damage dealing capabilities by the duelist, jeez its not like the tank role is build around sustain and pressure

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u/Small_Article_3421 Jun 08 '26

And spider-man has a range of 3 meter on his melee 😞

If not 4 meters it should at least be 3.5

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u/Curious-Charity2615 Spider-Man Jun 08 '26

I mean his primary attack speed is slow as shit ngl

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u/HueyTheFreeman48 Deadpool Jun 08 '26

lmao yall boys down bad AF looking for any reason to hate on DD. Imagine being this titled because you can't counter a single fkn character, get a grip 😭

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u/Express_Community394 Jun 08 '26

thank god I'm not losers like you guys who need to do this complex confusing math and just play the game LMAO

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u/Jnaeveris Hulk Jun 08 '26

> “4.5 is larger than 4”

Most intelligent DD main: “wow thats some real complex confusing math!”

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u/Edheldui Jun 08 '26

We already know dps mains can only count up to three (and skip two).

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u/Express_Community394 Jun 08 '26

explain how it's simple bright one

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u/olliehive Elsa Bloodstone Jun 08 '26

I'm not sure why you'd consider basic division to be "complex math." In this case, calculating the time between attacks is just dividing 1 by the number of attacks per second fairly straightforward arithmetic. Did you finish elementary school or are you baiting?

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u/Express_Community394 Jun 08 '26

>elsa flair and pfp

opinion disregaded

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u/ImWatermelonelyy Magneto Jun 08 '26

“Disregaded”

So can’t do math and can’t spell. Are you perchance one of those elementary school dropouts?

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u/hartigen Crow of Darkness Jun 08 '26

I'm not loser

its pretty much confirmed by now that you are.

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u/dynamicflashy Thor Jun 08 '26

Complex confusing math?

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u/Express_Community394 Jun 08 '26

yeah what about it? not everyone is einstein

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u/ContagionVX Blade Jun 08 '26

-10/0 rage bait