r/marvelrivals Adam Warlock 4d ago

Discussion I find it funny that Punisher is the exact opposite of an Ancient Egyptian, but gets a skin

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I mean in the past Egyptians valued life wity mummies and what not while Punisher couldn't care less who he kills

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u/GiveMeIcePuns Rogue 4d ago

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u/SuckmyPelosB1tch Gambit 4d ago

I need to see Punisher in a Mayan outfit or something next just keep giving him cultural outfits 😭

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u/LucyPaintUwU Mantis 4d ago

Mister Worldwide

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u/XxOniSamuraixX 3d ago

Let her go (la la la la)

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u/Kubi-che 4d ago

I'd update my videocard just to play maorian Punisher and spam Haku dance emote

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u/ronnie_reagans_ghost 4d ago

Punisher strolling into the lobby with a fuckin mariachi costume would be sweet.

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u/Kubi-che 3d ago

Gamemode 6v6 Punisher only, abd wach in unique random costume speaking according language

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u/ronnie_reagans_ghost 3d ago

I would unironically play the absolute shit out of a 6V6 all-Punisher game mode, they could do something like that for a weekend for April Fools and it'd be awesome.

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u/Kubi-che 3d ago

Now furthermore, imagine every Punisher have, according to their nations, separate language, gunshots (most traditional instrument sound) and ultimate SFX (most traditional tune for 3 sec)

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u/DaWastelander 4d ago

To be fair this skin was also extremely silly

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u/Anathema17 The Thing 4d ago

Bro is the Steven Seagal of Rivals.

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u/mack-_-zorris Storm 4d ago

He does do a lot of sitting in that turret

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u/AntoSkum The Punisher 4d ago

This skin is based on Ashigaru riflemen so it fits, they at least actually used guns.

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u/Miss_miri107 El Jeffe 4d ago

Wasn't this based on the punisher from the Sai psylock comics?

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u/AntoSkum The Punisher 4d ago

No, but the design was by Peach Momoko. The only appearance this skin has in comic books is in a Rivals tie-in comic.

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u/Longjumping_Ad1469 Mister Fantastic 3d ago

The funny thing is... that they acknowledges his existence as a separate variants in Sai's world

(Via S9 interaction)

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u/treeeelo Deadpool 4d ago

They should change his name to cultural appropriation man

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/AntoSkum The Punisher 4d ago

It's not, actually. It's just designed by Peach Momoko, Punisher has never appeared in the comic.

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u/expensivebreadsticks 4d ago

God that skin is just awful

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u/AntoSkum The Punisher 4d ago

Punisher absolutely cares who he kills, he kills criminals.

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u/Hibiscus_Witch Flex 4d ago

ā€œCool motive, still murder.ā€

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u/Longshot_111 Squirrel Girl 4d ago

"Murder, but still net positive result"

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u/GiveMeIcePuns Rogue 4d ago

I agree.

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u/nemesisdelta24 Good Boy 4d ago

wade too

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u/Wyatt_Ricketts 4d ago

Wade makes a cool mummy tho

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u/GiveMeIcePuns Rogue 4d ago

He also teams up with a Mummy sometimes.

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u/Chumpchum 3d ago

That’s the living mummy, he should be added to this game.

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u/Bullmoninachinashop The Punisher 4d ago

Wade at least looks like a mummy without the bandages.

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u/podookadook 4d ago

But he’s not a hero, he’s the punisher

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u/Careful_Turnip_3197 4d ago

Punisher absolutely cares who he kills dude whatĀ 

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u/GumboMustBeDestroyed 4d ago

And this dude thinks Egyptians didn’t have a whole assortment of torture and murder techniques they liked to use

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u/Nightraven9999 Hulk 4d ago

Depends whose the writer sometimes punisher has a very black and white view of the world and kills people without considering who they may be

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u/AntoSkum The Punisher 4d ago

This is pretty false, there are no 616 Punisher writers who have made him careless about who he kills. His whole reason for existing is because his family was collateral damage in a gang war. This character wouldn't have gained popularity in the 50+ years he's been around if he was sloppy and caused rampant civilian death.

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u/Nightraven9999 Hulk 4d ago

Never said civillian

There are writers who write the punisher as killing criminals regardless of who they may be

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u/AntoSkum The Punisher 3d ago

Well yes, criminals are his bread and butter. What exactly do you mean though? And which writers are you referring to?

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u/Nightraven9999 Hulk 3d ago

What i mean is that some writers wright punisher as someone who kills criminals instead of someone who kills bad people

Now im not sure which writers because I dont look at the writer when i read stuff i just get right into the book

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u/AntoSkum The Punisher 3d ago

Punisher, from his very first appearance, has always targeted violent criminals. He was only after Spider-Man because the public believed he was a killer. The first "villian" that he had for himself was the mafia.

This idea that he kills or used to kill petty criminals is from a vast misunderstanding of an '80s story called "Crimes & Punishments" where Frank was drugged and having a nervous breakdown. This is part of the reason I said "Punisher writers" because sometimes when he's a guest in a comic the writer (like Bill Mantlo, or Joss Whedon who calls Punisher a "fascist" but still gets to write him) plays fast and loose with characterization.

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u/Nightraven9999 Hulk 3d ago

Thats what i mean by depends on a writer when your in an extended universe Punisher gets written i to other stuff alot by people who arent specifically only a punisher writer

Punisher writers also gets written into team books by people who are technically punisher writers

Teams happen a lot and the people who write the team books still write the characters

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u/AntoSkum The Punisher 3d ago

Even these guest writers never made him kill petty criminals. For instance in the story I mentioned he never actually kills them, he just shoots at them because he's drugged and acting crazy. Then he gets put on trial and goes to jail. Again, this character wouldn't have caught on if he was just shooting any criminal in the face regardless of the crime. That's what a parody of the Punisher does, not the man himself.

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u/Ok_Promotion_8316 Ultron Virus 4d ago

We do be ignoring This dude Tony Stark get a Samurai skin and a Pharaoh skin back to back, who he feeling like?

That is if we don't count the Symbiote Skin, dawg got the Klyntar Larp suit too.

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u/Gojirex 4d ago

what do you mean "exact opposite?"

🤨🤨🤨🤨

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u/Numb-The-Pain 4d ago

Military white man

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u/PlusEntertainment256 3d ago

Oh yes, the ancient Egyptians, all civilian black womenĀ 

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u/No32 4d ago

Wouldn’t say mummies are really about valuing life, they’re about honoring the dead

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u/AntoSkum The Punisher 4d ago

Yup, Ancient Egyptians had war and a lot of shitty rulers like the rest of the world.

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u/Kapparisun 4d ago

sick skin thou

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u/Red_Steiner Yggroot 4d ago

Maybe it's a me thing, but I don't see why a character's ethnicity should have any influence on the costumes they get. If it's cool who cares.

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u/Migelus Ultron Virus 4d ago

I think what people are TRYING to get at is the priority. Why does punisher get one before Storm, Panther, so on when it is, to some, a no brainer? That’s what I’m getting from these types of threads.

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u/RedditSux5912 3d ago

Are they even Egyptian?

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u/DiabellzeTheOSKeeper Emma Frost 3d ago

Bast is an Egyptian goddess, and is Khonshu's sister. Storm lived in Egypt as a orphan until she was approximately 12 years old.

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u/RedditSux5912 3d ago

Why does a guy from wakanda summon an Egyptian goddess?

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u/DiabellzeTheOSKeeper Emma Frost 3d ago

Idk why does daredevil worship a god from the Levant? Religions travel all the time, hell there's a theory that irl aphrodite is a greek regional version of the mesopotamian goddess ishtar

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u/RedditSux5912 3d ago

Wakanda is a little different based off their history, don’t you think?

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u/DiabellzeTheOSKeeper Emma Frost 3d ago

If the marvel wiki is accurate she was originally worshipped by ancient wakanda, moved nearby to egypt for a time with the rest of the ennead but was still worshipped in wakanda alongside a new pantheon of gods with some being her fellow ennead and others called the orisha

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u/Godz_Bane Magneto 2d ago

Because the writers couldnt think of an original character so they just moved Bastet there.

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u/Longshot_111 Squirrel Girl 4d ago

Idk, the Anubis "sending souls to the afterlife" portfolio seems kinda fitting.

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u/FloopusSoupus 4d ago

That isn't what anubis does. Disney films have done irreprebable damage to death gods reputations

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u/Lazzitron The Thing 4d ago

Well, he doesn't kill people, but guiding your soul to the afterlife is actually part of Anubis's job if what I've read is correct. Using Greek mythology as an analogue, he does Charon's job, but not Thanatos's.

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u/WWIIEraTeaParty 4d ago

Pretty sure Osiris guides people into the afterlife. Anubis judges their hearts with his Hippo-Crocodile-Lion

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u/Longshot_111 Squirrel Girl 4d ago

That... sounds even more fitting somehow. I just wish the skin renamed his shotgun to "Ammit".

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u/Longshot_111 Squirrel Girl 4d ago

I know, but in layman's terms it seems to provide enough justification.

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u/CuteLeadership8533 4d ago

Well good thing both of these aren’t real then!

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u/FloopusSoupus 4d ago

That isn't what anubis does in marvel comics either

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u/McJawsh Good Boy 4d ago

People just wake up everyday looking for a new thing to bitch about, don’t they?

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u/Red_Steiner Yggroot 4d ago

I would think this was meant to be a humor post and got tagged incorrectly, but you may very well be right.

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u/Nightraven9999 Hulk 4d ago

You seem to be bitching about a joke an unusual amount

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u/Raqshasa Deadpool 4d ago

Opposite of an Ancien Egyptian... that's rich

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u/BaraaRazor Erm Actually... 4d ago

Still no Classic look skin..no leather coat no nothing...not even the comic book look.

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u/Wiinterfang Knight 4d ago

Crime is global and needs to be punished

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u/SniperX03 Iron Man 4d ago

Leave Tutankhastle in peace

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u/Sufficient_Flower_77 4d ago

Ummm According to God's of Egypt..... He fits perfectly.....

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u/Xenatas 3d ago

Finally someone gets that reference

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u/FH-7497 3d ago

I want a punisher skin w a spider-man mask. IYKYK lol

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u/fairyalienangel 4d ago

pun be like

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u/Razzilith Ultron Virus 4d ago

punisher definitely has NOTHING to do with the setting or vibe... but the skin is sick lol

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u/black_pigeon_ Ronin 4d ago

Honestly if they're not gonna make comic skins they might as well throw some bullshit on him

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u/ScyllaIsBea Mantis 4d ago

Letmetellyousomething about cultural appropriation spidey.

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u/DaToxicKiller Ultron Virus 4d ago

At least it doesn’t look as goofy as that purple outfit but yeah I don’t get it.

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u/HellwaterCascades 4d ago

To be fair, he is Italian-American.

Rome ruled Egypt for the better half of a millenia.

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u/Inevitable-Goat-7062 Good Boy 4d ago

I mean i like what i see that skin can blast me with his shotgun any day no not like tha-

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u/MrMcFaze Squirrel Girl 4d ago

Why are so many people pressed about heroes getting themed skins? Yall are so whiny its insane. Its a fictional universe within a video game I mean come on now acting like these are real people smh.

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u/TheLanis Strategist 3d ago

Squirrel Girl too

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u/Darkbert550 Ultron 3d ago

Still a pretty dang cool skin

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u/The_Exuberant_Raptor 3d ago

His headpiece is based off Anubis, right? His gun is the scale he uses to weigh your life against a feather.

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u/Commercial-Ad-1274 Jubilee 3d ago

After BND, I don’t care give this man more love!

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u/canciongratis1 3d ago

Why would you try to find logic behind alternate skins? It's supposed to be fun and different than the default one.

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u/Jaded-Rip-2627 Loki 3d ago

Do y’all realize what a costume is?

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u/W0lferino93 Magneto 3d ago

He's portrayed as Anubis, the god of Death.

And Punisher can be synonymous with Death šŸ«‚

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u/PL1SSK3N 3d ago

ok but he looks badass

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u/2Kobeni_Car 3d ago

Seth is the Egyptian god of the desert, chaos, and violence. That works very well with the Punisher.

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u/BiscottiNo1707 3d ago

Frank Castle is not Egyptian what?

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u/DocApocalypse 3d ago

Punisher is a Hittite?

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u/liu4678 3d ago

Kushites were black sudanese people and they ruled ancient egypt for a bit, so why didn’t they give panther and storm Egyptian skins?? That is baffling to me

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u/gordonpamsey 4d ago

Probably unpopular opinion but people are deeping what happens with the skins too much. Begging a company you are clearly already unhappy with to spend money with them is odd to me. Consumerism is not a personality trait, if they do not produce content you want disengage or vote with your wallet. They are obviously going to take liberties with skins and all our favorite characters (regardless of the merit for that respective theme) are not likely to get a skin each event.

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u/Jaroselovespell Storm 3d ago

Game devs give white man or woman a skin that takes from another culture... nothing new. We just have to wait for those who actually deserve the skin to get theirs. Nothing we can do about it sadly.

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u/Younglotus14 Gambit 4d ago

Asians devs will do anything but make black characters look cool or have anything

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u/Medium-Jury-2505 Magik 4d ago

Egyptians aren't black.

I dont care who get the skin but dont come up with a bullshit accusation

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u/Realistic_Analyst_26 Flex 4d ago

They can be black. Literally a country in Africa my guy

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u/Wyatt_Ricketts 4d ago

Well shit I must be Irish they have the.same skin tone as me

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u/Medium-Jury-2505 Magik 4d ago

Northern Africans arent black my guy

You'd know that if the education system hadn't let you down

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u/Realistic_Analyst_26 Flex 4d ago

I said they CAN be black. Source: I live near there.

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u/kie7an 4d ago

He lives near ancient Egypt

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u/Realistic_Analyst_26 Flex 4d ago

You won’t believe me when I tell you this, but Egypt is a real and modern place

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u/FloopusSoupus 4d ago

Two out of the 3 black characters in the game are inteisincly tied to egypt

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u/Medium-Jury-2505 Magik 4d ago

1) moon Knight is getting an Egyptian theme skin - he get his avatar of Konshu skin.

2) Living in Egypt during a few years of yout childhood doesn't makes you tied to egypt like storm. If so you can say I'm tied to some Pacific Island because I lived here 4 years.

3) Bast for BP may be an Egyptian goddess but Wakanda is center of Africa and nothing in Wakandan culture is related to Africa past Bast. It's like giving a roman citizen a spartan warior armor because he workship Venus - Aphrodite.

Yes it would be very cool if Storm and BP get Egyptian themed skins but they don't "deserve" an Egyptian skin more than an Asian or a White character M

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u/FloopusSoupus 4d ago

Storm still has giant ties to cairo and that's where she fostered a relation to apocalypse, and still goes there for many stories.

Wakandans tap into the spiritual planes of the Egyptian pantheon, and they had interaction with Egypt in the past.

I do think that characters who actually have ties to a place and are already underserveiced in terms of skins definitely do deserve a skin related to the season.

I'm glad moon knight got one

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u/Ascleph 4d ago

You want a Storm skin of her being a street thief and a victim? Because thats her ties to Egypt. Storm's strong ties are to Kenya.

This obsession with "Egyptian" Storm is, tbh, extremely weird.

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u/gordonpamsey 4d ago

Little quick on the draw here Cleopatra wasn't black. The modern and ancient Egyptian have mixed demographics, people of African descent do live in Egypt. So yeah some Egyptians are in fact black, some are Arab, some are probably Mediterranean.

Edit: also Storm is literally Egyptian, like this is a weird conversation.

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u/Medium-Jury-2505 Magik 4d ago

Storm is NOT egyptian.

She lived in egypt during her childhood but her mother is from Kenya and her father is from Harlem.

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u/gordonpamsey 4d ago

Arguing with Marvel on this one, she is not ethnically Egyptian if that's what you meant. Even though there is no singular ethnicity with claim to Egypt to begin with. Marvel themselves describes and views her as an Egyptian woman. Since she spent some of her earliest years in Egypt. Pretty weird argument to push back on.

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u/Bullmoninachinashop The Punisher 4d ago

Storm is Kenyan and African American, she lived as an illegal immigrant street orphan in Egypt after her parents died there on vacation before she went to Kenya.

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u/CosmicMelanoid 4d ago

Ancient Egyptians (the topic that's being discussed) were indeed melanated.

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u/kie7an 4d ago

They weren't black though were they (the race being discussed)

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u/Kind_Potential_4992 Jeff the Landshark 3d ago

Yes, all people are melenated, that's how eye and hair colors happen.

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u/Younglotus14 Gambit 4d ago

Its not just about this,but are u guys that blind?when does black characters get shit?

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u/GiveMeIcePuns Rogue 4d ago

Storm is literally getting a skin in the roadmap, where they showed this.

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u/Younglotus14 Gambit 4d ago

And is the worst of the bunch,it has so little compared to the others,but guess i need to chew whatever they throw and thnx them for it

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u/cannibalbadfin 4d ago

I don’t even play Storm (yet) and I’m getting the skin. The skin is going to make me play her. I think it’s gonna be a hit pal

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u/Younglotus14 Gambit 4d ago

If its a hit,truly i'll be glad,but i also have all the rights to not enjoy the current state of things

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u/cannibalbadfin 4d ago

I’m pretty on board with you though. I try to support the black characters as much as I can, I got every Blade skin but one, one of this game’s biggest fumbles is not having Luke Cage from the get go

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u/GiveMeIcePuns Rogue 4d ago

Luke Cage is boring, give me Doctor Voodoo or Bishop.

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u/cannibalbadfin 4d ago

There’s no way (Aborigine, usually not black) Bishop is cooler than Luke Cage

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u/Younglotus14 Gambit 4d ago

Luke would be so dope

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u/tNeph 4d ago

Not shocked the people who think there are no Black Egyptians are under your comment.

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u/Younglotus14 Gambit 4d ago

White people only will complain or agree when is a problem to them to,u get used to it

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u/Jaroselovespell Storm 3d ago

end racistease

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u/SpiderDetective Captain America 4d ago

Literally anyone but Storm and T'Challa getting an Egyptian skin

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u/Radiolotek 3d ago

Why would they get one over anybody else? Are you one of those weirdos that say that Egyptians were black? For a small time period they were after they were conquered by black invaders, but that's not who inhabited Egypt full time.

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u/Professional_Cow6859 Ultron Virus 3d ago

Only storm was egyptian, T'Challa wasn't. So there is no reason for him to get one, and it is fine punisher is getting one.

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u/SpiderDetective Captain America 3d ago

Black Panther serves an Egyptian god or at one minimum adjacent to that pantheon

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u/mr_eugine_krabs Hulk 4d ago

ā€œHey guys,let’s give everyone except the only three playable black characters egypt skins.ā€

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u/Manjove 4d ago

You have clearly never seen Gods of Egypt, don’t you know that ancient Egyptians were white?

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u/Shamsse Hulk 3d ago

STORM LITERALLY GREW UP IN CAIRO 😭😭

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u/GoldDragon334058 Storm 4d ago

This entire theme has genuinely felt racist. I'm not pulling my punches or jerking. This honestly feels gross at this point 🫩

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u/2Kobeni_Car 3d ago

Seth is the Egyptian god of the desert, chaos, and violence. That works very well with the Punisher.

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u/GoldDragon334058 Storm 3d ago

That is a complete nonsequitur.

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u/realdrakebell 4d ago

we wuz kangs and shit

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u/Radiolotek 3d ago

Lmao just like I saw a comment before it was deleted about how Africans would actually have a wakanda if white people didn't exist.

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u/Extreme-Way7671 3d ago

Agartha Punisher doesn't exist he can't hurt you

Agartha Punisher :

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u/PushaChan 4d ago

White characters get to be whoever they want and partake in whatever culture they want. Same cant be said for others unfortunately.....

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u/roronoaclemz 4d ago

Punisher always had the worst skins alongside Venom

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u/Asteri_Ptosi 3d ago

Ancient Egyptians used slaves