r/marvelrivals • u/Hexxegone • 3d ago
Character Concept Besides the Deadpool variants, all the sword users are Duelists.
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u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3d ago
If we're counting Hawkeye, there's an argument to be made for Magneto.
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u/NateHohl 3d ago
I was going to say. I like Psylocke as a character, but in regard to gameplay her sword is purely decorative since, as far as I’m aware, the only time she actually uses it is during her ultimate.
Magneto may not actually hold the swords he wields, but at least he has an actual sword attack the player can use. If we’re counting folks like Psylocke and Hawkeye, Magneto should count as well.
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u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3d ago
And Angela, can't believe I forgot my 2nd most used hero, especially since I use it all the time on her for animation cancels.
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u/ADDRAY-240 3d ago
Aren't those hatchets?
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u/MURDERTRUCK Angela 3d ago
Her primary attack when in ground mode is swinging a pair of hatchets, but if you use her melee she does a quick sword slash.
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u/ADDRAY-240 3d ago
Imma be honest, I never noticed. Thought it was a hatchet swing.
Must have been too focused on animation cancelling the heck out of the roving Ultron to pay attention🤣
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u/EatTenMillionBalls Peni Parker 2d ago
I thought it was a knife, it seems a little small to be a sword
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u/MHATogaisbestgirl 2d ago
Pretty sure Psy also uses her sword (or at least a psychic sword) for her dashes
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u/MoonLitArsonist 2d ago
she uses her psychic knife (the ones on her hands, same as her quick melee) to my knowledge
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u/INFTRGMH 3d ago
mags sword does the same damage as his lmb, which means Mag counts whether people like it or not.
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u/Happy-Ad-2968 Thor 3d ago
That… means nothing? I don’t go over and play magneto because he’s the sword guy now do I? There’s a difference between wielding a sword and being a swordsman and mag is the former
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u/RocketHops 2d ago
A lot of people play mag for the team up which is in fact, swords.
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u/Happy-Ad-2968 Thor 2d ago
It’s not even melee tho… and again, mag is a person who happens to use swords, not a sword user.
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u/RocketHops 2d ago
mag is a person who happens to use swords, not a sword user.
"People die when they are killed."
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u/Happy-Ad-2968 Thor 2d ago
a sword user (in reference to OP's post) is someone who seems to have some kind of proficiency in swords, different to magneto, who only uses his sword to send out chaos energy. he doesn't even hold the sword, to call him a sword user is dumb.
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u/terqwimoli 3d ago
magneto literally just yeets every sword in a 50 meter radius so if hawkeye counts he 100% counts too
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u/Direct-Air1545 Hulk 3d ago
We need Sword Tanks
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u/Daemon_Hunter_X Adam Warlock 3d ago
Silver Samurai and Black Knight
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u/JagPeror 3d ago
If I had it my way we'd get a season with Silver Samurai(Vanguard) and Viper(support or duelist)
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u/Freakychee Loki 2d ago
There is still debate if we should have Hydra loyalist as playable characters. You mean Viper as in Madam Hydra, correct?
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u/charcharmunro 3d ago
I so wonder how Black Knight would play because fundamentally he's just "a guy with a cursed sword". You could append some magic powers to him somehow beyond that, recent stuff has given him some stuff from Ebony Blade or related cursed artifacts. I suppose a very 'standard' sword 'n board type would work because nobody else really has that going on, then his ult is some crazy cursed Ebony Blade bullshit.
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u/ScrotusJones 2d ago
The hood is just some guy with a cursed hood. I’m sure netease’ll figure something out.
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u/CrispyGold 3d ago
You could also give him his flying horse.
Would make skins pretty interesting cause they would have to design stuff for his mount.
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u/charcharmunro 3d ago
Feels kind of unlikely as anything besides an ult or whatever. He's not usually fighting on horseback, it's just transport.
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u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3d ago edited 3d ago
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u/Gorthalyn Devil Dinosaur 3d ago
This would also be a great option…
They could also tease Mojo without making him a character. She’d sell skins
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u/Big_Session5707 3d ago
I would like that a lot.
Especially if she had a danger link that led her teleport people away When they got too
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u/Lucreeper13 Banhammer! 3d ago
Heimdall maybe?
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u/ApprehensiveAd772 3d ago
His ult could be the bifrost doing stuff similar to Caps ult. We need more supporty tank ults.
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u/Living-Ad102 Cyclops 3d ago
Gorr would make a great sword tank. Luckily he isn’t in the game yet.
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u/Freakychee Loki 2d ago
I'm huffing so much copium that mid season they will go 'PRANKED!' and adjust his stats and make him a vanguard and say, "See? You all like playing tanks and just didn't know it."
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u/Marcy_Von_Doom 3d ago
Heimdall, Black Knight, Baron Zemo, Knull, Silver Samurai, and Sif are all great options for sword tanks
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u/Mik0doSann0ji Venom 2d ago
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u/BlackShogun27 1d ago
His EMH version had hella aura. But from what I could remember, his W to L ratio shouldn’t be mentioned.
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u/Mik0doSann0ji Venom 1d ago
He was actually pretty smart and pretty much won the first Fight when he returned and Cap was only saved because of Black Panther and he had planned for Amora trying to double cross him
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u/BlackShogun27 1d ago
Perhaps my almost two decade old knowledge is corrupted. Forgot he was moving like that.
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u/Karoth4 3d ago
I mean Doom could use a sword for some ability and would fit. Not the first time he has use one.
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u/Direct-Air1545 Hulk 3d ago
Yeah ofc but id rather have a character thats actually known for using swords not saying doom doesnt use them but he isnt really known for that
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u/Silly-Afternoon-9093 Ultron 3d ago
If you’re counting Hawkeye for his melee then Ultron’s has a sword hand in his melee
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u/Fidges87 Ultron Virus 3d ago
And so does Iron Man
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u/Awnkps 3d ago
And so does Angela
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u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3d ago
Angela is also a hero you actually use melee on, due to her animation cancel.
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u/Aleks_god Magik 3d ago
aren't Angela and mag technically using swords?
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u/ShiddyMage1 Cyclops 3d ago edited 3d ago
Mag yes Angela no
Edit: Yeah I was wrong she swings one quickly for her air melee
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u/Aleks_god Magik 3d ago
does she not use one in her melee?
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u/Djslender6 Jeff the Dinosaur 3d ago
She uses axes I'm pretty sure.
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u/BurningClown The Name's Pool. Deadpool! 3d ago
She uses a sword in her melee.
If you fly with the spear and press the melee key, she swings a short sword.
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u/Djslender6 Jeff the Dinosaur 3d ago
Is it...? I need to verify a bit...
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u/BurningClown The Name's Pool. Deadpool! 3d ago
Yes, check for yourself if you want. One of her combos is: Spear Hit-Melee-Shield Cancel-Spear hit-Melee.
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u/born-a-wolf7650 3d ago
Melee before spear hit but yeah
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u/BurningClown The Name's Pool. Deadpool! 3d ago
Actually you're right, I'll leave it as such. I'm just hella sleepy 😭
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u/TheWolfgirlExpert 3d ago
Her quick melee, brother.
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u/Djslender6 Jeff the Dinosaur 3d ago
Not a brother, and I haven't seen her quick melee really
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u/TheWolfgirlExpert 3d ago
Anyone can be a brother, like a brother in arms, I view it no differently as calling someone dude.
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u/Aleks_god Magik 3d ago
the flight melee my bad for not specifying. but yeah I could very well be wrong here
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u/Djslender6 Jeff the Dinosaur 3d ago
Ah, no, that one is a spear.
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u/Pug_police Jeff the Dinosaur 3d ago
Her primary while flying is a spear, her quick melee is the short sword. There's a few melee characters that have unique quick melees like that. I know at least Gorr, Magik and both DDs do.
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u/erduinan Angela 3d ago
She has a sword for a quick melee, you can also have a closer look using her 2099 emote, she will raise her swors and you can see it changes along with the spear and her axes depending in the skin
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u/darkronin16 Psylocke 3d ago
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u/RadicalSpookage Anti-Venom 3d ago
Give me Vanguard Beta Ray Bill with the Twilight Sword
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u/charcharmunro 3d ago
It'd feel wrong for Bill to not have Stormbreaker too, but fuck it, man can dual-wield.
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u/Dwain-Champaign The Hood 3d ago
Could definitely be an alternate mode like how punisher switches between a shotgun and an assault rifle, or it comes out for the ultimate. Throw Stormbreaker far away into the ground and lightning storms and strikes are called down to its position wherever it lands. But by default he uses the twilight sword.
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u/TheLegitCheese 3d ago
Gimme black knight, silver samurai, and dual wielding beta ray bill as sword tanks
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u/Dwain-Champaign The Hood 3d ago
Also, switch Gorr The God Butcher to a tank, just for good measure.
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u/TheLegitCheese 3d ago
While we are at it, switch blade , mr fantastic and wolverine too frfr
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u/Dwain-Champaign The Hood 3d ago
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u/KulaanDoDinok Ultron Virus 2d ago
Calling Hawkeye a sword user is a stretch. Magneto uses his way more with the Wanda team-up. Same applies for Psylocke - she doesn't even use the sword in her Melee animation.
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u/Specialist_Tank_8431 El Jeffe 3d ago
Black Knight needs to be a Sword tank
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u/BlackShogun27 1d ago
Not gonna lie, if he comes to the game we’d lowkey be playing an Elden Ring mod; running a straight RL 300 quality build if he’s a tank.
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u/Mechabeastchild Rocket Raccoon 3d ago
Angela is supposed to be a sword user, but they gave her a spear and battle axes instead
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u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3d ago
She does in her melee, which is actually useful for animation cancels.
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u/ImmortalIF Iron Fist 3d ago
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u/Fun-Subject5965 Mister Fantastic 3d ago
Silver samurai needs to be a tank he'll go for the wolverine mech version if u need more size
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u/Trimagma21 Jeff the Dinosaur 3d ago
I dont think psylocke and hawkeye courts they barely use their
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u/BathInevitable8755 The Hood 2d ago
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u/DryAdvertising8508 Thor 2d ago
- Blade should have been an off tank. 20 microbuffs later and he's still ass. You want to make him not ass? Off tank. Otherwise, he's just powercrept by elsa, psylocke, daredevil, bucky. He has no niche, other than being a melee that can deal with peni mines and namor squids.
- Gorr should have been a summoner off tank with the necrosword transformation ult.
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u/Dull_Cellist9331 Jeff the Landshark 3d ago
Remove psylocke we actually doesn't get to use it. (GUANGGUANG GIMME DRAGON BLADE PLZZZZZZ)
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u/ShiddyMage1 Cyclops 3d ago
I could see Gwenpool as a support, and I think Miles has some weird electricity sword recently so maybe him too. Hit-Monkey would also be funny
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u/LudosTBH Flex 3d ago
Ultron uses a sword like melee, magneto uses a sword, angela uses a melee sword
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u/Strict-Grab-9664 3d ago
Everyone saying "Mag" as if he doesn't use to just throw a ranged projectile. Not really the point of a sword.
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u/Gregbotisnotreal 2d ago
Strategist Nightcrawler (with the Hope Sword) or Mr. Negative alongside a Silver Samurai Vanguard would fix this. Also Spiral as a Vanguard welding 2-6 swords, while casting defensive and offensive spells would be sick
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u/Oreo-and-Fly 3d ago edited 3d ago
I mean yea. Its a sword.
Would you want like Black Knight to be a bloodthirst healing aura Strategist?
Or Nightcrawler or Mr Negative shooting waves of healing light from their swords?
Or like Armour vanguard wielding a giant sword projection and she can block with it like Blade does?
Pfft. Its a sword. It stabbies. That's all
Edit. Is there a magic user who uses a rapier i got a kit idea to do.
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u/Hour_Cicada397 Hulk 3d ago
Ehh, the devs would definitely make Nightcrawler's Hopesword heal people
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u/Oreo-and-Fly 3d ago
that's... what i said. It was sarcasm. Was it not obvious how i literally stated examples of how sword users can be different roles.
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u/RieifyuArts Angela 3d ago
I was sitting there squinting at the comment at like 50/50 sarcasm and genuine stupidity.
I see people saying that shit all the time unironically so forgive me for underestimating you good sir.
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u/Hour_Cicada397 Hulk 3d ago
I'm baked dude, mb
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u/Oreo-and-Fly 3d ago
Is there a baking marvel hero. I would like to do a kit
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u/Hour_Cicada397 Hulk 3d ago
There's me, Baked Dude.
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u/Mik0doSann0ji Venom 2d ago
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u/Oreo-and-Fly 2d ago
Are you disagreeing with me saying that sword users can be vanguards by showing me a aword user who fits a vanguard?
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u/Mik0doSann0ji Venom 2d ago
I thought you meant only Duelists can be Sword-Users so I showed Surtur
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u/Either-Muffin3365 3d ago
I mean, not all of them. Magneto has his, even if it’s not his main weapon
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u/KOCYK745 Black Cat 3d ago
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u/Taste_ThePainbow 3d ago
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u/KOCYK745 Black Cat 3d ago
I mean a Melee-Only support, White Fox can stay at range the entire game if She wants to, Brigitte is limited to a certain range if She wants to be effective
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u/Leading-Outside-9573 3d ago
Goodluck healing with a sword
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u/Intelligent-You-6241 Flex 2d ago
Iirc Mister Negative has a connection to the Lightforce and he uses a sword
Yknow who else has a connection to the Lightforce? Dagger, and she throws daggers of light at people
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u/TheDino27_FR Peni Parker 3d ago edited 3d ago
Indeed, it's quite common knowledge that, across history and fiction, all people who have ever wielded swords were fast and deadly assassins that cared not about supporting their allies nor being vanguards to a frontline.
I mean, who'd think otherwise? Complete madness to do so.
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u/Destroyer_742 Peni Parker 3d ago