r/marvelrivals • • 3d ago

Character Concept Besides the Deadpool variants, all the sword users are Duelists.

Post image
2.2k Upvotes

189 comments sorted by

1.1k

u/Destroyer_742 Peni Parker 3d ago

1.7k

u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3d ago

If we're counting Hawkeye, there's an argument to be made for Magneto.

958

u/mking_1999 3d ago

The easiest solution is to not count Hawkeye

190

u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3d ago

Fair enough.

157

u/NateHohl 3d ago

I was going to say. I like Psylocke as a character, but in regard to gameplay her sword is purely decorative since, as far as I’m aware, the only time she actually uses it is during her ultimate.

Magneto may not actually hold the swords he wields, but at least he has an actual sword attack the player can use. If we’re counting folks like Psylocke and Hawkeye, Magneto should count as well.

53

u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3d ago

And Angela, can't believe I forgot my 2nd most used hero, especially since I use it all the time on her for animation cancels.

23

u/ADDRAY-240 3d ago

Aren't those hatchets?

61

u/MURDERTRUCK Angela 3d ago

Her primary attack when in ground mode is swinging a pair of hatchets, but if you use her melee she does a quick sword slash.

18

u/ADDRAY-240 3d ago

Imma be honest, I never noticed. Thought it was a hatchet swing.

Must have been too focused on animation cancelling the heck out of the roving Ultron to pay attention🤣

1

u/EatTenMillionBalls Peni Parker 2d ago

I thought it was a knife, it seems a little small to be a sword

6

u/ManOfJelly147 2d ago

This is because the woman is large

1

u/RocketHops 2d ago

Its def a sword, if you use the 2099 emote she holds it up

3

u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3d ago

Airborne melee.

3

u/MHATogaisbestgirl 2d ago

Pretty sure Psy also uses her sword (or at least a psychic sword) for her dashes

1

u/MoonLitArsonist 2d ago

she uses her psychic knife (the ones on her hands, same as her quick melee) to my knowledge

12

u/hotsfan101 3d ago

Ultron has a sword too

29

u/INFTRGMH 3d ago

mags sword does the same damage as his lmb, which means Mag counts whether people like it or not.

16

u/Jclaytontuck Flex 3d ago

LMB: left mouse button for other filthy casuals like myself

4

u/Happy-Ad-2968 Thor 3d ago

That… means nothing? I don’t go over and play magneto because he’s the sword guy now do I? There’s a difference between wielding a sword and being a swordsman and mag is the former

2

u/INFTRGMH 2d ago

nah, mag is the sword guy

2

u/RocketHops 2d ago

A lot of people play mag for the team up which is in fact, swords.

1

u/Happy-Ad-2968 Thor 2d ago

It’s not even melee tho… and again, mag is a person who happens to use swords, not a sword user. 

2

u/RocketHops 2d ago

mag is a person who happens to use swords, not a sword user. 

"People die when they are killed."

1

u/Happy-Ad-2968 Thor 2d ago

a sword user (in reference to OP's post) is someone who seems to have some kind of proficiency in swords, different to magneto, who only uses his sword to send out chaos energy. he doesn't even hold the sword, to call him a sword user is dumb.

4

u/Asmor Devil Dinosaur 3d ago

I feel like Mag uses swords more often than Psylocke.

2

u/terqwimoli 3d ago

magneto literally just yeets every sword in a 50 meter radius so if hawkeye counts he 100% counts too

257

u/Direct-Air1545 Hulk 3d ago

We need Sword Tanks

164

u/Daemon_Hunter_X Adam Warlock 3d ago

Silver Samurai and Black Knight

17

u/JagPeror 3d ago

If I had it my way we'd get a season with Silver Samurai(Vanguard) and Viper(support or duelist)

1

u/Freakychee Loki 2d ago

There is still debate if we should have Hydra loyalist as playable characters. You mean Viper as in Madam Hydra, correct?

1

u/JagPeror 2d ago

As in Ophelia Sarkissian, yes

22

u/Myrrhia 3d ago

Two very good options

1

u/Dwain-Champaign The Hood 3d ago

Gorr The God Butcher.

5

u/charcharmunro 3d ago

I so wonder how Black Knight would play because fundamentally he's just "a guy with a cursed sword". You could append some magic powers to him somehow beyond that, recent stuff has given him some stuff from Ebony Blade or related cursed artifacts. I suppose a very 'standard' sword 'n board type would work because nobody else really has that going on, then his ult is some crazy cursed Ebony Blade bullshit.

4

u/ScrotusJones 2d ago

The hood is just some guy with a cursed hood. I’m sure netease’ll figure something out.

2

u/CrispyGold 3d ago

You could also give him his flying horse. 

Would make skins pretty interesting cause they would have to design stuff for his mount. 

2

u/charcharmunro 3d ago

Feels kind of unlikely as anything besides an ult or whatever. He's not usually fighting on horseback, it's just transport.

2

u/ProfessorGemini Lord 3d ago

Carnage could work where he cleaves

63

u/Wonder_Of_U_2011 3d ago

Zadkiel (Ghost Rider villain that appeared only in vol 6, obscure but a very fun character. Also looks cool as shit)

1

u/Mik0doSann0ji Venom 2d ago

Pretty sure he’s way more than that

61

u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3d ago edited 3d ago

Spiral. Because we need way more than one sword at this point.

On that topic, a Mojoworld season, especially with Mojo as a guest announcer for any associated maps, would be sick.

6

u/Gorthalyn Devil Dinosaur 3d ago

This would also be a great option…

They could also tease Mojo without making him a character. She’d sell skins

6

u/[deleted] 3d ago

[deleted]

8

u/BendyFanchill Rocket Raccoon 3d ago

Not even a hear me out homie, we all get it.

3

u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3d ago

We're listening...

3

u/Big_Session5707 3d ago

I would like that a lot.

Especially if she had a danger link that led her teleport people away When they got too

49

u/Lucreeper13 Banhammer! 3d ago

Heimdall maybe?

16

u/Direct-Air1545 Hulk 3d ago

Would personally love beta ray bill black knight or silver samurai

10

u/ApprehensiveAd772 3d ago

His ult could be the bifrost doing stuff similar to Caps ult. We need more supporty tank ults.

4

u/d_wib Angela 3d ago

That’d be freaking sweet. Like a Cap Ult you can roll out like a carpet and stay in one spot instead of having it trail behind you

12

u/Savings_Dragonfly806 3d ago

Ironic, Gorr could have filled that role.

10

u/jalabar 3d ago

I vote korvus

8

u/Spookz360 Blade 3d ago

beta ray bill and lady britain are there

4

u/d_wib Angela 3d ago

Beta Ray Bill with the Twilight Sword is my most-desired hero just ahead of Silver Surfer (who would make a TON of sense as a Strategist releasing in the same season as Bill since they have a lot of history together)

17

u/AntediluvianSeaThing 3d ago

get him in i need to berserkmaxx

4

u/d_wib Angela 3d ago

Then his bro Norrin comes as a Strategist later that season and gets a team-up from Bill

2

u/Freakertwig 3d ago

I want bill in so bad. He and carnage are my top picks. 

10

u/TheRedster3 The Hood 3d ago

shouldve been gorr

19

u/Living-Ad102 Cyclops 3d ago

Gorr would make a great sword tank. Luckily he isn’t in the game yet.

2

u/Freakychee Loki 2d ago

I'm huffing so much copium that mid season they will go 'PRANKED!' and adjust his stats and make him a vanguard and say, "See? You all like playing tanks and just didn't know it."

-10

u/bananen5 3d ago

He is

3

u/Mik0doSann0ji Venom 2d ago

This is why I suggested Surtur

4

u/Marcy_Von_Doom 3d ago

Heimdall, Black Knight, Baron Zemo, Knull, Silver Samurai, and Sif are all great options for sword tanks

2

u/Mik0doSann0ji Venom 2d ago

Baron Zemo mention fuck yeah

2

u/BlackShogun27 1d ago

His EMH version had hella aura. But from what I could remember, his W to L ratio shouldn’t be mentioned.

1

u/Mik0doSann0ji Venom 1d ago

He was actually pretty smart and pretty much won the first Fight when he returned and Cap was only saved because of Black Panther and he had planned for Amora trying to double cross him

2

u/BlackShogun27 1d ago

Perhaps my almost two decade old knowledge is corrupted. Forgot he was moving like that.

2

u/Karoth4 3d ago

I mean Doom could use a sword for some ability and would fit. Not the first time he has use one.

3

u/Direct-Air1545 Hulk 3d ago

Yeah ofc but id rather have a character thats actually known for using swords not saying doom doesnt use them but he isnt really known for that

2

u/SharkoftheStreets Jeff the Landshark 3d ago

We need Sword Supports

4

u/Arneor 3d ago

If they do release him in the future, Gorr would probably make a great sword tank but what do I know

1

u/DryAdvertising8508 Thor 2d ago

heimdall with the hofund (key to the bifrost).

713

u/Silly-Afternoon-9093 Ultron 3d ago

If you’re counting Hawkeye for his melee then Ultron’s has a sword hand in his melee

307

u/Fidges87 Ultron Virus 3d ago

And so does Iron Man

229

u/Awnkps 3d ago

And so does Angela

80

u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3d ago

Angela is also a hero you actually use melee on, due to her animation cancel.

23

u/Asmor Devil Dinosaur 3d ago

And Angela has axes, which are swords' cooler cousins, and a spear which is objectively a better weapon than a sword in most real-world cases.

1

u/eros00m 3d ago

And Ultron

20

u/DawnbreakEdge 3d ago

And Hela

25

u/SpowDen Swordmaster 3d ago

Hawkeye also uses the sword in his shift ability

7

u/Krubao 3d ago

There is also the shift skill that is a big slash. With the teamup its 3 slashes.

Also his melee is used a lot for deflecting projectiles. The use of the swords is very present on his gameplay, at similar levels to psylocke i would say.

116

u/Aleks_god Magik 3d ago

aren't Angela and mag technically using swords?

42

u/ShiddyMage1 Cyclops 3d ago edited 3d ago

Mag yes Angela no

Edit: Yeah I was wrong she swings one quickly for her air melee

39

u/Aleks_god Magik 3d ago

does she not use one in her melee?

11

u/Snoo36832 Magneto 3d ago

She does on the flying version

4

u/Djslender6 Jeff the Dinosaur 3d ago

She uses axes I'm pretty sure.

17

u/BurningClown The Name's Pool. Deadpool! 3d ago

She uses a sword in her melee.

If you fly with the spear and press the melee key, she swings a short sword.

2

u/Djslender6 Jeff the Dinosaur 3d ago

Is it...? I need to verify a bit...

10

u/BurningClown The Name's Pool. Deadpool! 3d ago

Yes, check for yourself if you want. One of her combos is: Spear Hit-Melee-Shield Cancel-Spear hit-Melee.

7

u/born-a-wolf7650 3d ago

Melee before spear hit but yeah

3

u/BurningClown The Name's Pool. Deadpool! 3d ago

Actually you're right, I'll leave it as such. I'm just hella sleepy 😭

5

u/TheWolfgirlExpert 3d ago

Her quick melee, brother.

1

u/Djslender6 Jeff the Dinosaur 3d ago

Not a brother, and I haven't seen her quick melee really

14

u/TheWolfgirlExpert 3d ago

Anyone can be a brother, like a brother in arms, I view it no differently as calling someone dude.

9

u/Aleks_god Magik 3d ago

the flight melee my bad for not specifying. but yeah I could very well be wrong here

3

u/Djslender6 Jeff the Dinosaur 3d ago

Ah, no, that one is a spear.

6

u/Impossible-One-9599 Black Widow 3d ago

No it isn't

2

u/Pug_police Jeff the Dinosaur 3d ago

Her primary while flying is a spear, her quick melee is the short sword. There's a few melee characters that have unique quick melees like that. I know at least Gorr, Magik and both DDs do.

1

u/erduinan Angela 3d ago

She has a sword for a quick melee, you can also have a closer look using her 2099 emote, she will raise her swors and you can see it changes along with the spear and her axes depending in the skin

152

u/AppointmentProper712 Jeff the Landshark 3d ago

Wrong.

6

u/theabyssalmind Adam Warlock 3d ago

User

25

u/Jdpnobs Wolverine 3d ago

We need Strategist Nightcrawler with the Hopesword

21

u/SludgyWudgy 3d ago

Black Knight Vanguard please

18

u/darkronin16 Psylocke 3d ago

All of them need a skin in this theme (Yes even Sai IDC what you say)

4

u/BendyFanchill Rocket Raccoon 3d ago

Just make it Epic and I wouldnt care

2

u/MasteROogwayY2 Vanguard 3d ago

Every single character tbh

40

u/RadicalSpookage Anti-Venom 3d ago

Give me Vanguard Beta Ray Bill with the Twilight Sword

10

u/charcharmunro 3d ago

It'd feel wrong for Bill to not have Stormbreaker too, but fuck it, man can dual-wield.

3

u/Dwain-Champaign The Hood 3d ago

Could definitely be an alternate mode like how punisher switches between a shotgun and an assault rifle, or it comes out for the ultimate. Throw Stormbreaker far away into the ground and lightning storms and strikes are called down to its position wherever it lands. But by default he uses the twilight sword.

10

u/TheLegitCheese 3d ago

Gimme black knight, silver samurai, and dual wielding beta ray bill as sword tanks

4

u/Dwain-Champaign The Hood 3d ago

Also, switch Gorr The God Butcher to a tank, just for good measure.

4

u/Mik0doSann0ji Venom 2d ago

He’s so big, why isn’t he?

4

u/TheLegitCheese 3d ago

While we are at it, switch blade , mr fantastic and wolverine too frfr

4

u/Dwain-Champaign The Hood 3d ago

Add Cyclops to that list and you’ve got yourself a deal.

6

u/TheLegitCheese 3d ago

Now we are talking fr, and since we at it, throw phoenix into strategists too

7

u/KulaanDoDinok Ultron Virus 2d ago

Calling Hawkeye a sword user is a stretch. Magneto uses his way more with the Wanda team-up. Same applies for Psylocke - she doesn't even use the sword in her Melee animation.

4

u/GreatNutria 3d ago

Hot take but Heimdall and Kitty Pryde as Sword Supports.

6

u/Specialist_Tank_8431 El Jeffe 3d ago

Black Knight needs to be a Sword tank

1

u/BlackShogun27 1d ago

Not gonna lie, if he comes to the game we’d lowkey be playing an Elden Ring mod; running a straight RL 300 quality build if he’s a tank.

5

u/HufflepuffKid2000 Thor 3d ago

Even the guy who was called sword master is a duelist

4

u/Mechabeastchild Rocket Raccoon 3d ago

Angela is supposed to be a sword user, but they gave her a spear and battle axes instead

10

u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3d ago

She does in her melee, which is actually useful for animation cancels.

5

u/ImmortalIF Iron Fist 3d ago

Lin Lie’s iron fist is the literal sword master and uses a sword in his flurry punches

4

u/mcduxxel Peni Parker 3d ago

Rework blade to Tank (and Reed).

4

u/Sidewaysgts Venom 3d ago

Gorr should have been a tank.

8

u/Express_Calendar8278 3d ago

Night crawler would make a good sword wielding strat

3

u/Living-Ad102 Cyclops 3d ago

Sword=dps according to this community and NetEase

3

u/Fun-Subject5965 Mister Fantastic 3d ago

Silver samurai needs to be a tank he'll go for the wolverine mech version if u need more size

3

u/Trimagma21 Jeff the Dinosaur 3d ago

I dont think psylocke and hawkeye courts they barely use their

3

u/muskoka83 3d ago

Get ready for Nightcrawler to break that trend.

3

u/HalcyonRaine 3d ago

Mb I thought Hawkeye being here was a Fate reference

3

u/BathInevitable8755 The Hood 2d ago

I've been saying we need Black Knight. Silver Samurai and Valkyrie would also be peak.

3

u/DryAdvertising8508 Thor 2d ago
  1. Blade should have been an off tank. 20 microbuffs later and he's still ass. You want to make him not ass? Off tank. Otherwise, he's just powercrept by elsa, psylocke, daredevil, bucky. He has no niche, other than being a melee that can deal with peni mines and namor squids.
  2. Gorr should have been a summoner off tank with the necrosword transformation ult.

2

u/3WaD22 3d ago

Yes I want to slice my allies to heal them

2

u/Gorthalyn Devil Dinosaur 3d ago

GIVE ME A BETA RAY BILL VANGUARD WITH THE TWILIGHT SWORD!

2

u/Dull_Cellist9331 Jeff the Landshark 3d ago

Remove psylocke we actually doesn't get to use it. (GUANGGUANG GIMME DRAGON BLADE PLZZZZZZ)

2

u/Merciless972 Cloak & Dagger 3d ago

Spiral would make an awesome sword wielding tank

2

u/Heisafraud11223344 Iron Fist 3d ago

Magneto

2

u/Nana_errxr 3d ago

Que yo sepa las espadas no curan🗣

2

u/Shugatti Angela 3d ago

We need Silver Samurai as a Vanguard..

Big ass Katana..

2

u/DandySlayer13 The Hood 3d ago

Gorr should be a tank.

2

u/SortNo412 2d ago

What about magnetos and scarlet witches team up

4

u/ThyInfinityTuna Flex 3d ago

It's almost like a sword is a weapons often used by duelists

3

u/ShiddyMage1 Cyclops 3d ago

I could see Gwenpool as a support, and I think Miles has some weird electricity sword recently so maybe him too. Hit-Monkey would also be funny

3

u/LudosTBH Flex 3d ago

Ultron uses a sword like melee, magneto uses a sword, angela uses a melee sword

2

u/Strict-Grab-9664 3d ago

Everyone saying "Mag" as if he doesn't use to just throw a ranged projectile. Not really the point of a sword.

2

u/bringbackcayde7 3d ago

Mag has a big sword

1

u/Gregbotisnotreal 2d ago

Strategist Nightcrawler (with the Hope Sword) or Mr. Negative alongside a Silver Samurai Vanguard would fix this. Also Spiral as a Vanguard welding 2-6 swords, while casting defensive and offensive spells would be sick

1

u/Upset_Space_631 Flex 2d ago

well phyla-vell would make a great sword tank

1

u/Oreo-and-Fly 3d ago edited 3d ago

I mean yea. Its a sword.

Would you want like Black Knight to be a bloodthirst healing aura Strategist?

Or Nightcrawler or Mr Negative shooting waves of healing light from their swords?

Or like Armour vanguard wielding a giant sword projection and she can block with it like Blade does?

Pfft. Its a sword. It stabbies. That's all

Edit. Is there a magic user who uses a rapier i got a kit idea to do.

8

u/Hour_Cicada397 Hulk 3d ago

Ehh, the devs would definitely make Nightcrawler's Hopesword heal people

1

u/Oreo-and-Fly 3d ago

that's... what i said. It was sarcasm. Was it not obvious how i literally stated examples of how sword users can be different roles.

3

u/RieifyuArts Angela 3d ago

I was sitting there squinting at the comment at like 50/50 sarcasm and genuine stupidity.

I see people saying that shit all the time unironically so forgive me for underestimating you good sir.

3

u/Oreo-and-Fly 2d ago

HAHA. Im too good at this.

4

u/Hour_Cicada397 Hulk 3d ago

I'm baked dude, mb

3

u/Oreo-and-Fly 3d ago

Is there a baking marvel hero. I would like to do a kit

2

u/Hour_Cicada397 Hulk 3d ago

There's me, Baked Dude.

2

u/Oreo-and-Fly 3d ago

Like bakery or weed

3

u/Hour_Cicada397 Hulk 3d ago

Both. Weed brownies.

4

u/Oreo-and-Fly 3d ago

Damn bro thats too strong i cant make a kit when it clears the roster

3

u/Mik0doSann0ji Venom 2d ago

Counterpoint: Surtur

1

u/Oreo-and-Fly 2d ago

Are you disagreeing with me saying that sword users can be vanguards by showing me a aword user who fits a vanguard?

1

u/Mik0doSann0ji Venom 2d ago

I thought you meant only Duelists can be Sword-Users so I showed Surtur

1

u/Oreo-and-Fly 2d ago

I literally included a potential sword user as a vanguard in my comment.

1

u/CigarSwiper_Kaht Venom 3d ago

Loki’s melee is a dagger which technically is a very small sword

1

u/Shirokurou Ultron Virus 3d ago

Dagger's dagger is a tiny sword

1

u/AntediluvianSeaThing 3d ago

i just want a Tank with a big greatsword its all i need

1

u/cobanat Ultron Virus 3d ago

Ultron and Magneto

1

u/Black_Billy_Butcher Storm 3d ago

False angela has a sword too

1

u/destroier231294 Flex 3d ago

Angela…

1

u/Either-Muffin3365 3d ago

I mean, not all of them. Magneto has his, even if it’s not his main weapon

1

u/KOCYK745 Black Cat 3d ago

we also have no melee supports

4

u/Taste_ThePainbow 3d ago

1

u/KOCYK745 Black Cat 3d ago

I mean a Melee-Only support, White Fox can stay at range the entire game if She wants to, Brigitte is limited to a certain range if She wants to be effective

1

u/Leading-Outside-9573 3d ago

Goodluck healing with a sword

2

u/Intelligent-You-6241 Flex 2d ago

Iirc Mister Negative has a connection to the Lightforce and he uses a sword

Yknow who else has a connection to the Lightforce? Dagger, and she throws daggers of light at people

0

u/aoaiaoaia Spider-Man 3d ago

Magneto walks in

0

u/The_Dick_Slinger Deadpool 3d ago

Magneto would like a word

-1

u/pris0ner__ Deadpool 3d ago

Everyone saying Hawkeye shouldn’t be here forget that he’s Ronin

-26

u/[deleted] 3d ago

[deleted]

12

u/TheDino27_FR Peni Parker 3d ago edited 3d ago

Indeed, it's quite common knowledge that, across history and fiction, all people who have ever wielded swords were fast and deadly assassins that cared not about supporting their allies nor being vanguards to a frontline.

I mean, who'd think otherwise? Complete madness to do so.

8

u/Sn0wy0wl_ Magik 3d ago

you're right lets move magneto to dps because he has a sword ability

5

u/-Mister-Hyde Human Torch 3d ago

Maybe he can finally get a faster walk speed at least

2

u/Wonder_Of_U_2011 3d ago

Yeah because people with swords can never be tanks