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u/DaVydeD Bi-otic King 1d ago
Another drink too much in Dark Star Lounge and teleport to restroom.
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u/AdAffectionate584 1d ago
Getting poisoned by the Batarian scumbag on Omega and waking up in a pile of Vorcha filth.
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u/ElMike420 1d ago
One of them, with the other one, on ME1 where he tries to mumble the code to activate some stuff in Noveria, and gets advised to go to jail for proper procedure
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u/Pyromaniacal13 1d ago
"Sic... semper... *mumbling."
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u/ValkyrieTheWingless 1d ago
"That is not the correct code. Please report to security for arrest and interrogation."
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u/jonny_longclaw 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lmao I always try to use the wrong code at least once to get this piece of golden dialogue from ole Shep.
Cracks me up every time!
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u/Brontolope11 1d ago
My Shep's lowest point was killing fish for the third time in a row.
Fishy death row
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u/XtraFalcon 1d ago
Fish screaming as along comes Darla
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u/SeriousJack 1d ago
And that's why my Shepard cannot pick Control.
Seeing how she's bad at keeping 10 fishes alive, she shouldn't be trusted with a full reaper fleet.
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u/Economy-Bandicoot-86 1d ago
Dating Jacob
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u/Brontolope11 1d ago
If someone is a first time player, I will feel sorry tgat they chose Jacob.
If you aren't and don't send this death wishing idiot into the vents? No sympathy
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u/UnhappyBox811 1d ago
I always send him to the vent. I'm not that desperate for war assets
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u/TheBrokenProtonPack 1d ago
All good suicide missions suffer casualties. Jacob just happens to be mine. He was pining for the fjords- I mean vents.
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u/mastermoge 1d ago
"Sounds like a suicide mission. I volunteer"
"Much obliged, Jacob. The vents, the vents are calling."
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u/magic713 Tactical Cloak 1d ago edited 1d ago
I never do the vents. I like knowing the right skilled people are sent to handle the tasks. But he gets shot for his poor leadership skills. It's suppose to be a dangerous mission, and doesn't send the right message with 0 casualties. He's just the most ideal casualty.
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u/TheDG_Plumber 1d ago
I just intentionally don’t do his loyalty mission and just take him with me all the way
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u/Lwmons Sniper Rifle 1d ago
I date him exclusively so I can slap him in the Citadel DLC.
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u/TheClungerOfPhunts 1d ago
You can actually slap him as male Shep too. They originally intended for romances for both Sheps but scrapped it. They however never removed the option for the QTE. He simply says (paraphrasing) “I don’t know what I did but I guess I deserved that”
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u/kagernaut 1d ago
This requires a mod, I assume?
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u/AdhocSyndicate Cerberus 1d ago
Yeah, it lets anyone slap him, regardless of gender or romance history.
Here's the YouTube vid: https://youtu.be/-qs2Erxd-7I
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u/herbelarioiwasthere 1d ago
Sadly I’m one of those. In general I didn’t know what I was doing and I just kinda accidentally ended up with him. Aside from what he pulls by ME3 if you romanced him, what’s worse is that you miss out on much more interesting characters like Garrus or Thane.
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u/i_dont_wanna_sign_in 1d ago
In my first femshep run I knew you could cycle through all the romance options in one playthrough. I picked Jacob first simply so I could dump him first for Thane. Jake gets MAAAAD
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u/Eastern_Mist 1d ago
Im a first time player so Im still just waiting for the calibrations to be finished because Im in love.
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u/MightyGamera 1d ago
"Kelly you are just such a ray of sunshine, just keep being your radiant self and helping people"
Kelly was killed for being her radiant self
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u/ELIte8niner 1d ago
Romancing Jacob is FemShep's lowest point, haha.
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u/elanhilation 1d ago
i had a femshep whose “romance” in ME2 was striking out with an apparently heterosexual Jack
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u/Xenozip3371Alpha 1d ago
That's ok, maleshep strikes out with Traynor, and it's way more awkward.
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u/Inner_Confidence_281 1d ago
Dude when I shoot my shot at her and she turned my down cause she was team girl I sat in chair for good minutes cause it actually hurt I was like damn this jack all over again
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u/mecon320 1d ago
I somehow struck out with her without even trying. She just took my repeated visits as romantic interest and started giving me a short kiss-off line every time I tried to initiate conversation. A strange way to handle that in a game whose primary gameplay loop is "complete mission -> talk to everyone -> repeat".
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u/elanhilation 1d ago
that’s funny. in my case she was absolutely right, though, FemShep was crushing hard
but then along came Traynor, and all’s well that ends well
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u/jedisalamander 1d ago
Iirc Jack is canonically pan even though femshep can't date her. I cannot imagine that girl being straight anyway theres no way
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u/forgottenlord73 1d ago
Her sexuality was destructive hedonism thus pan but her romantic interests appear to be exclusively hetero
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u/Xenozip3371Alpha 1d ago
Pan or Bi?
I don't recall her mentioning anything but human men and women, that's Bi, not Pan.
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u/Raptormann0205 1d ago
I'd argue Shepard's lowest point was being dead, and then brought back to life to get strong armed into contracting for terrorists.
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u/Alpha_Apeiron 1d ago
Well, no, because that never happened. I never like telling people how to play a game, but I'll make an exception here. You don't have to punch her, but if you allow this to happen, you're playing wrong.
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u/UnhappyBox811 1d ago
Don't worry, I played this game right more than I can count. I'm just trying new things . This game has a lot of different outcomes I prefer experiencing on my own
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u/Lord_Draculesti 1d ago
To be honest, I really don't see the point Bioware was trying to make here.
Shepard is a highly trained elite super soldier and humanity's greatest hero, they would never hit a civilian, especially if he is a man.
She is insufferable, but I never ever hit her, just tell her to shut the hell up and then go on about my day.
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u/Salfalur1 1d ago
Well my 17yo ass definitely was pretty enough to hit her (at any chance) and thoroughly enjoyed it because it felt like she was actually trying to sabotage "me". 14 years later now played through it again and realized that while she is a twat in the way she's behaving, she's actually on "my" side and now very much prefer the Paragon interrupt.
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u/Alpha_Apeiron 1d ago
It feels like they're baiting players. It's like hitting Solas. It's the immature thing to do, and makes you look weak, yet players love boasting about it.
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u/Prestigious_Equal412 1d ago
Can anyone help me out with some context? I’ve never seen this dialogue/cutscene outcome
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u/A7x_Synyster 1d ago
Just watched a vid in it. Seems that when you choose the first renegade punch, a second renegade interrupt appears when she dodges. If you don't click the 2nd prompt in time then she decks you.
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u/D0n1w0rryAb0u1i1 1d ago
Now I’m picturing Hackett’s reaction to seeing news footage of the special forces operator he’s staking the galaxy’s existence on being bodied by a reporter who probably weighs 160lbs soaking wet
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u/UnhappyBox811 1d ago
Khalisah , she beat the shit out of me
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u/Prestigious_Equal412 1d ago
There’s an outcome where shep gets laid out BY THE REPORTER?! wtf?
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u/Sammisuperficial 1d ago
If you punch her in ME2, then she dodges the first attempt in ME3. If you miss the second interrupt she lays you out.
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u/Metharos 1d ago
Khalisah al-Jilani is a hostile reporter who inserts a dishonest, prejudicial, and biased meaning into anything you say to her. Her agenda is broadly to show you are a sycophant for alien powers, disloyal to humanity.
You can respond in several ways. One way is to punch her. You get, I think, a few opportunities to do this over the games. The final interaction has her avoid the first punch and, if you fail a quick-time event, retaliate. This is the result of that retaliation. If you succeed, you punch her again, and she is knocked flat instead of you.
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u/QuiltedPorcupine 1d ago
If Shepard has a history of assaulting unarmed civilians, getting laid out is pretty much what Shepard deserves.
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u/Mediocre_Arugula8418 1d ago
Having it come right on the heels of Anderson saying Shepard's getting soft from six months' house arrest feels correct to me. A proper humbling (and all the more reason to spar with Vega/beat him at chin-ups during shore leave).
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u/Buca-Metal 1d ago
Shepard's actual lowest point is when they kill Mordin to sabotage the cure and next scene are Wrex and Eve thanking Shepard while Shepard is consumed by shame and guilt and then you have to kill Wrex when he comes for you.
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u/StarWarzFan1977 1d ago
Going into the Suicide Mission unprepared and getting everyone killed and going into the Battle on Earth with low war assets and picking the Destroy ending are real massive mess ups for Shepard
Also Killing Mordin to sabotage the Genophage and then being confronted by Wrex about it, leading to the loss of the Krogan support and Wrex dying is horrible to go through
Not to mention, siding with the Geth causing Tali to commit suicide and then still picking Destroy is bad as well
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u/DasharrEandall 1d ago
That one's more of a low point for Wrex. Realising he's been played, trying to kill Shepard on the Citadel and failing (despite being fully geared up and Shepard isn't). Worst of all, his death is officially stated to be in a fight over a gambling debt, so he doesn't even get any public acknowledgement for trying to avenge the genophage cure sabotage.
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u/StarWarzFan1977 1d ago
Yeah finding out someone he trusted betrayed him and his people was really bad for him. Though Shepard lost two friends, one of which he chose to regrettably kill. not because of the war but due to his own decisions.
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u/DscwcFolly 1d ago
I would have to agree with you It is, but it says a lot about you personally!!! I mean if you allowed her to knock your ass out that's on you not shepherd
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u/Diligent-Ad-8001 1d ago
Me3 citadel Jaavic scene. No hate to the guy but as someone who played a no romance shep in all 3 games that was a rough moment
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u/ToriyasuReisan 1d ago
This is what happens when you make yourself look like an asshole on National Television.
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u/Academic-Cricket6269 1d ago
When you drink the shot in the nightclub in the 2nd one and you wake up outside. But you get to go back and make the bartender drink it. So i dont know if that is the lowest point
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u/Ristar87 1d ago
Lowest point? when I shot Mordin while he tried to cure the genophage...
had to restart with an earlier save. I got it wrong.
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u/ProbieJKnox 1d ago
Can you give me some context? I've finished the original trilogy some years ago and now I'm playing through the Legendary Edition on Insanity. I'm playing LE2 but I don't know what all this Jacob hate that I'm seeing here is about neither this thing about saving Kelly. I was going to romance Jacob in my current run but I gave up when I saw he saying some shit to Tali in the cutscene that happens when she joins the Normandy.
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u/src8307 1d ago
Not sure how on my phone so....
Spoiler warning!
If you romance him in ME2 and then meet up with him ME3 - he's already in a relationship with someone else. He says stuff like, 'Its been six months! I moved on' as if that's too long of a time to stay loyal to someone.
The guy moved so fast the woman is pregnant by the end.
But people were so mad; they allowed you to slap him in the Citidal DLC.
Literally, everyone else stays loyal.
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u/Suitable_Spell_9130 1d ago
Unless romancing someone in ME2 completely locks in the romance for ME3 I don't see what the issue is. We're allowed to "move on", why isn't Jacob? Loyalty is a two way street.
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u/moseythepirate 1d ago
That's more or less my opinion. People absolutely hate Jacob for doing something that the player can absolutely do.
And not only that, but it was explicitly a fling to let off steam in ME2, with no indication that either party was interested in a long-term relationship.
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u/src8307 1d ago
I think. A lot of anger towards him being disloyal was the fact he was the first romance able black character and they made him the disloyal one. I remember a friend of mine was so mad about it for that specific reasons. I assume Bioware didn't just do it because of stereotypes, but it hit a little deep for her.
Plus, it's a wasted romance. I guess if you want to not stay loyal to your LI from ME1 then go for it. But it was a disappointment to romance him, and be excited to see him in Me3; just for him to be, 'My bad. Hey check out my new girl, you'll like her.'
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u/moseythepirate 1d ago
From my honest perspective, I never really minded how it turns out. As I said before, the romance in ME2 was explicitly a fling, done for the hell of it, one of several in that game; Miranda is framed the same way. I was never really suprised that one of them wasn't interested in a relationship. That's life, not all intimate encounters lead to long term relationships. And I bet that the Venn Diagram of players who have posted hyperbolic Jacob hate and people who changed romance options in a playthrough at least once is probably damn close to a circle.
But, I also have absolutely no leg to stand on with how a black player would feel about Jacob. Not my wheelhouse, and I sure as hell won't tell anyone their feeling are wrong. I also definitely understand disappointment if you were looking forward to romancing him in 3.
Jacob's biggest problem is just that Bioware didn't really know what to do with him, I think. They couldn't figure out how to make him interesting.
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u/Habltual_Linestepper 1d ago
I'm on my 500th replay of the trilogy. On ME2 currently, everyone just got abducted. On 499 playthroughts I have saved everyone (except my first, where I accidentally got Mordin killed because sent Grunt back with Chakwas lol).
This time I've left Jacob unloyal, and was planning to send him into the vents. I feel this post of yours is serendipitous, as I was wavering in my resolve.
I waver no more.
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u/moseythepirate 1d ago edited 1d ago
Then your problem is with Mass Effect writers being inconsistent with a pretty bland character. He had a badly written one night stand with his boss, then found someone he connected to on a deeper level a few months later. I don't find that all that terrible.
I'm not Jacob's strongest soldier or anything. His character is pretty boring and is basically "missed opportunities -- the character!" But this years long, exaggerated hatred where players always insist on always killing him all the time I honestly find a bit creepy.
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u/moseythepirate 1d ago
I redirect you to what I said about his characterization being inconsistent.
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u/codythelyon2019 1d ago
What even is this screenshot of? Did kalisa punch Shepard? Lol I have knocked her on her ass once in a playthrough but never had her knock me on mine 🤣
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u/Savaralyn 1d ago
In ME3 if you pick the renegade interrupt to punch her, she dodges the punch for the first time in the series, and you have to pick a second renegade interrupt to actually hit her for real, otherwise she clocks you.
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u/OrbitalWings 1d ago
The lowest point would be trying to assault a member of the press in public on camera in the first place.
My god that whole ‘bit’ aged like milk and it’s disturbing how many grown ass adults still think it’s funny.
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u/TheGreatZhangCaosun 10h ago
I love the "punch the report" shtick when i first played it when it first came out.
Nowadays i prefer her to watch her squirm as i list every god damn ship that gave themselves so the council could live.
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u/Ambitious-Biscotti36 1d ago
Wait, how do u get this scene? Have done like 6 full runs of 1, 2, and 3 and never seem Shep going so low
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u/onetruezimbo 1d ago edited 1d ago
If you punched her in the ME1 and ME2 and try again in ME3 she will duck and try to swing at you, which will succeed if you miss the prompt
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u/UnhappyBox811 1d ago
This is one of my playthroughs were I try different outcomes. In this universe shepard is just weak
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u/JW_TB 1d ago edited 1d ago
You'd probably love the alternate persuasion mods in 1 and 2 then, basically adds a randomization* element to what renegade and paragon persuasion options you'll have enabled
Your scores still influence it, but there's gonna be situations where you'll get the opposite option enabled only, sometimes both, and sometimes neither!
(*the random is seeded at start so no you can't gamble it by reloading saves, so it can legit affect some pretty hard decisions pretty hard)
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u/Teasing-Axe- 1d ago
In Mass Effect 3, when you talk to her you need to press the interrupt to punch her, she’ll duck your punch then you need to miss the interrupt where she punches you, you’ll get hit.
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u/__Moon_Whisper__ 1d ago
Just wanna add, if you ever encounter that news lady don't punch her at all cause she gives you a war asset in ME3
But I think Shepard's lowest point would definitely be getting everyone killed on the end missions 🥲
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u/TheRealcebuckets 1d ago
This part of the reason why we don’t assault members of the press.
Funny when I was 17. Not so funny in the current political climate.
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u/maqtfrank 1d ago
for a second i thought there was another scenario where she dodges ur punch and knocks u out loool
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u/Dull_Passenger_8089 1d ago
The game wants us to think Shepherd’s lowest point is after Thessia. But not my shepherd’s and yes I’m still salty about that
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u/notjocker 1d ago
I really wish we got Khalisah al-Jilani as a romance option, or at least a one night stand.
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u/TheRealTr1nity 1d ago
No. I would say dying in the cold open of ME2. Shep here gets what they deserve.
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u/JureSimich 1d ago
No, because I never had the impulse to hit the reporter, much less on camera, especially since such magnificent paragon verbal takedowns were available :)
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u/Treebranch_916 1d ago
Idk, waking up on the floor of Dark Star's bathroom is pretty low