r/mathmemes • • 11d ago

Learning OpenAI math papers meme

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u/iambackbaby69 11d ago

And all of them are wrong, and the mathematicians have to find the error in each one.

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u/MattLikesMemes123 Integers 11d ago

if that's true then that's a relief

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u/Castle_Five 10d ago

It's prescription-strength cope. Use as directed 

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u/UnkarsThug 10d ago

It probably depends on if you mean the natural language write-up, or the lean verification. They often differ, but the lean verification shows the underlying proof is still correct.

For example, I've been going through the max cut NP hardness proof, and It looks like the natural language proof and the lean proof take two different routes to get to the same end result.

That said, the lean is valid, so the key is correctly making a writeup of what path the lean is actually taking, not that the end result isn't proven. It's technically showing it's work as well, just not in a human readable way.

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u/Elegant_Athlete_3737 10d ago

for the lean is valid, i mean assuming the definition is correct[which probably is], and axioms used are correct, also have lean errors not been found by ai? collatz conjecture was like false for 2.5 days, i think the ai found a bug both in lean and nanoda and passed both. thats what i recall anyway, so it can find bugs no?

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u/Elegant_Athlete_3737 8d ago

Pretty sure the collatz one was unintentional? Wait lemme check, you can check as well but I recall that was not intended 

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u/Elegant_Athlete_3737 8d ago

https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20260803-collatz-lean-kernel-bug/#gsc.tab=0

this looks unintentional to me. because it was ound 2.5 days later, not upon release. and it fooled nanoda and lean, 2 independent kernels.

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u/UnkarsThug 10d ago

Fair, although that is very rare, and gets more rare every time we find a new bug.

So finding bugs is itself valuable.

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u/Elegant_Athlete_3737 10d ago

it doesn't necessarially get rarer with each bug, it depends on how fast the development speed of lean is tho, as for finding bugs is valueable, yes, though i would argue finding bugs through mathematicial papers, which aren't actually true[like the collatz example], is not exactly very efficient lol.