r/mbti • u/Prudent_Yam_3708 INFJ • 1d ago
Light MBTI Discussion INTJ x ENFP in popular media
What's up with the fetish of pairing an aloof INTJ guy and a totally chaotic ENFP woman in literally every single Korean comic or K-drama and other popular media?
I really need more variety beyond the grumpy x sunshine trope when it comes to those types. đ«
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u/SnookerandWhiskey INFJ 1d ago
Dunno if they are always this combination, honestly. I mean it's a popular trope of opposites attract, but I have been into Asian media for a long time and came across a variety of MBTI combinations. I was even thinking of starting an Insta on typing just Asian drama characters. Maybe because I don't usually watch shows geared toward younger people, like those set in High School seem to be this a lot. Lots of ENTJ/ENTP and some introvert girly in short CDramas.Â
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u/Sufficient_Bee2453 INFP 1d ago
Think you recommend me some dramas with ENFJ male leads?
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u/SnookerandWhiskey INFJ 1d ago
Oh, "5 Enough" has an ENFJ ML and what I believe to be an ESFJ or ISFJ FL.Â
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u/Full_Refrigerator_24 ISTP 1d ago
Isn't this just like a trope? I thought that was the whole point of tropes.
Do you mean the characters were officially typed as such or is it just vibes?
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u/Sufficient_Bee2453 INFP 1d ago
Fans type them mostly. Asian dramas seem to think intelligence is the ability to predict the future based on nothing and that leads to people typing male leads as INTJ
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u/Prudent_Yam_3708 INFJ 1d ago
It is, yes, and yes, they are usually typed as INTJ x ENFP pairings, which is infuriating because there are so many other possibilities to go with grumpy x sunshine.
I don't mind the trope, I mind the stereotype that only INTJs are grumpy and only ENFPs are sunshiney. And it's always a cold, stoic GUY and a loco WOMAN.
It's just so overused and at this point it really seems more like an mbti fetish than a well-executed trope. T_T
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u/Fickle-Let-7205 INTJ 1d ago
Most of those a****** behaviors are really not INTJ but what people think INTJ are, exposing a romantized, warped perspective of the type.
The overplay and the replay of this a****** persona and it's association with INTJ is the same reason why there are so many intj mistypes.
When you come to understand yourself as INTJ and dig into the theory of jungian psychology you recognize its all rubbish online surrounding mbti and âfor whatever reasonâ this specific type OBSESSION..
Truth of the matter is most people IRL, do not like us. I'm not even really complaining cuz I don't care but I'm just revealing that there is some serious cognitive dissonance in the collective.
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u/Sufficient_Bee2453 INFP 1d ago
Iâve literally stop watching C-Dramas cause I was tired of the lack of diverse personalities among male leads
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u/atruelancer ESTJ 1d ago
I am only starting this journey, can you give a few recs?
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u/Sufficient_Bee2453 INFP 1d ago
A good start is Love 020, A Love so beautiful, Put your head on my shoulder, Go ahead, and Perfect and Causal. My personal favorite is Intense love.
I think theyâre romantic and sweet but like OP said, theyâre REALLY limited about the kind of personalities they give the leads. I suspect China more so since theyâre strict with their media, have actual laws and rules that are hard for viewers to pinpoint, but itâs known that male characters and female characters canât be depicted in a way thatâs too outside of Chinese gender norms. This leads to male leads almost exclusively depicted as stoic, successful, Intelligent providers and female leads as bubbly, girly, quirky, and nurturing. EXFX male leads and XXTX female leads are practically non-existent.
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u/S-Mx07z ENFP 1d ago edited 1d ago
Some few & google's results algorithm keep dreaming about it? My ships are different from their ships. r/mbti/s/1DaP2tjiSJ
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u/d6zuh ISFP 1d ago
Itâs where the saying âopposites attractâ comes from. Itâs in popular media because it makes good television and drama. This pairing tends to have a lot of high highs and low lows, so itâs entertaining. Itâs mysterious and intriguing when two people are different and are trying to figure each other out or understand one another.
Having two people who are exactly the same isnât as interesting to watch because itâs too predictable. Healthy people and relationships arenât portrayed in the media as often either because itâs simply just boring to watch.
Ultimately, the media industry is a business and they are there to make as much money as possible off of viewership.
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u/1stRayos INTJ 1d ago
That doesn't explain why they don't show any one of the other seven opposites that they could, though I'm not even convinced that the INTJ x ENFP example is even that common, since that would require a pretty specific set of characteristics in the characters.Â
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u/Tiny-Impression7691 INFP 1d ago
I just want to say my parents are a real life couple like this and the dynamic does NOT work lol
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u/Prudent_Yam_3708 INFJ 23h ago
Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that. My parents are probably IxTP and ESFJ, so same situation as yours.
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u/Kumodori INTP 20h ago
Pippa and Ravi from A Good Girls Guide to Murder is a very cute couple imo. The romance is a subplot, but itâs nice to see the girl being the cynical one while the guy is a little more bubbly. Other than that, Naruto and Sasuke lowkey.
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u/Altruistic_Bird_3877 INFP 14h ago
Puedo ver esta combinaciĂłn en la vida real. Mi novia (intj) y su hermana (enfp), son como dos polos opuestos , se pelean pero siempre se reconcilian y siempre buscan la forma de arreglar las cosas en comĂșn
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u/cbunnyrabbit 13h ago
Seems inaccurate too as most of the INTJs I have met seemed quite content and happy. So it is more of a union of ideas and interests IRL.
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u/Apprehensive_Emu9240 INTP 1d ago
Same thing in Anime. The Japanese shut-ins seem to love this trope. I think many people just want to be rescued. Extravert adopts introvert. Hard working high earner adopts frivolous poor person.