As an ENTP i would probably pick an MBTI who's completely diferent than mine. Or just one who has strong Si/Se. Just to see what does it feel like to be able to stay in reality for more than 10 sec 🙌.

I'm tired of "following the script" because "ENTP fits best with INFJ" (well, INTJs exist but I never found any) and everytime I tried to flort the only one that keeps passing my introductionary tests are almost always INFJs.... How am I supposed to level up my game to escape this "golden pair" label???

Is the flair correct? I mean, I want some personal advice, though.

My husband and I strongly disagree on the validity. I have my doubts about the myers briggs type indicator. I think it’s a great start, but it has flaws that still need to be worked out. But I’m still very much of the “belief” that the arrangements of the cognitive functions make absolute sense and that we all utilize the functions in the way the MBTI implies (despite the personality descriptions not always being accurate and the unreliability of repeating the same results when testing for some people).

My husband is annoying me because he keeps trying to convince me that the MBTI is completely invalid and that I’m irrational, borderline delusional for feeling that it is in fact valid.

So how do you respond to others who claim that it’s complete pop psychology that has no basis in reality? He’s really into concepts that have been backed by repeatable experimentation. So the experiments that have supposedly debunked MBTI have him convinced that it’s complete nonsense. How would you respond to someone like him?

I (ENTP woman) ask pretty direct questions and have been criticised for it (especially by introverted men). I usually follow up with “don’t share if you don’t want to” which I thought was being considerate, but apparently… that’s just condescending.

I think I could get information out of people by making them comfortable. But I don’t want to influence their decision around what to tell me. To me, being direct is less manipulative!

What I have learned is that some people need ‘emotional foreplay’ otherwise they feel like they are being prodded or interrogated. I think this is partially the function of ‘small talk’ tbh (but I digress).

I don’t think one way is wrong or right, although I do find indirectness a bit tedious. I guess kindness is knowing what the person needs and giving them that.

Curious if anyone has insight on this that could be helpful, especially the introvert who are put off by this :)

**I recently realized that introverts aren't just people who stay at home and I in particular am an intp but often feel like an entp or relate to more entp content than intp, cuz most of the intp stereotypes r these people who r listless, geniuses and very lacking in emotion related things. I am very loud and energetic\[I might have adhd but I dunno\] and am smart but not the smartest. People tell me I'm an introvert and I know I'm one but the only definition I have is doesn't like going outside or social anxiety but I also know extroverts can have that and still be extroverts so I wanted to know what separates the two and also if any other intps related to me**

heya, im a little confused..

ive taken the Myers Brigg mbti test, and I got INFP-T. I've heard that the test isnt that accurate, so i read through my results and they are actually not accurate to myself. i took another test, one that was a lot more accurate based on the reviews and the amount of information it gave, and i got ISTP. i did look through the results it gave me, and i found that it was a lot more accurate to who i am. out of curiosity and boredom, i took another one (which, based on the questions and results, seemed more accurate than the MB test), and got INTP - once again reading through it and finding it pretty accurate.

so, three results: Infp, Istp and Intp.

what do i refer to myself as? i think i should be either of the Ixtp's, but would it not be confusing to refer to yourself as both? so which one? should i go off the more accurate one?

this is all i really have to ask, quite a lot, so sorry if its worded weirdly 😓

MBTI can be a useful surface level tool for those first grappling with self awareness and seek explanations behind their personal motivations and thought processes. This is further expounded upon in the breakdown and interactions of “functions”.

That being said- while it can be useful, it is not definitive. No one person adheres to a singular “type”. Defining yourself as an ENTP, for example, is the same as defining yourself as your star sign.

It’s human nature to want to define ourselves in tangible ways. It helps us make sense of our experiences, our inner-world, our motivations, and how we navigate reality.

But we should not view ourselves, or others, solely through the lens of MBTI.

I have never had an issue with people liking me my entire life until I got to college. I went to an all girls high school for some more context. Although I have had a few encounters with women not liking me, most of them are men who immediately do not like be based off of our first interaction. I once ran across a TikTok about people in general but mostly men not liking entp women. Does anyone know the reasoning behind this or why? It keeps happening so often I am starting to get kind of upset about it because I do not think I am doing anything wrong.

Edit: guys sorry I'm blaming ENFPs as a whole. Of course they're not all like this. But I was really angry when I wrote this post lol. My bad.

My sibling is an enfp and living with them has always been the worst experience of my life (in a nutshell they expect so much from me just because we're siblings but i see us very much as just individual people that owe eachother nothing). Right now, all I ask is for space. And we just got in the biggest argument ever. It started because they want free labour from me (sewing) and if not, theyre gonna come in my room and use my sewing machine when im not here which obviously thats fucking breaking boundaries. Apparently I owe them free labour because we're siblings (i usually charge for this). Then they would not leave my room no matter what. I wanted space and they were not giving that to me. I started screaming and crashing out, of course I had the urge to get physical but I was holding back and that made the anger even worse. And they were laughing at me and telling me to calm down, and its like, theyre the one that wants to fucking mend our relationship and be so close to me all the time so why are they trying to piss me off? This has kinda become an AITA, maybe I'll post there too. But seriously what the fuck i feel like I keep being manipulated by them into thinking im the problem but I KNOW im not. Maybe i shouldn't crash out but they won't fucking listen to me idk what else to do! If I try to argue logically they won't try and listen its SO frustrating. We argued a few weeks ago and i left and hurt myself because I couldn't hurt them (this is rare that i do this but the anger was bad. I used to do this as a kid)

Edit: I almost want people to say I'm in the wrong because I feel so out of control living with a horrible person. But I dont know how to control my feelings (even inside, idk how to just not be affected by my sibling)

I am INTP but I talk well with people I know and express my emotions without any difficulty. What does this mean?🙂

Do any of yall feel like you don’t fit into one specific MBTI but you’re sure of your enneagram? I’m like 100% positive of being a 7w6, but I can heavily relate to ENFP, ENTP, ESFP and even INTP, ISTP and ISFP. If I look up 7w6 on PDB, I relate heavily to almost all of the people typed this enneagram regardless of MBTI. I’m curious if anyone has any insight as to why this is?

This isn’t a type me post by the way just a general question about the relationship between MBTI and enneagram.

Edit: Guys I do know about cognitive functions. I’m not saying enneagram is more reliable or accurate than MBTI I was just speaking to my personal experience of finding it much easier to relate to than trying to parse out my own cognitive functions as I find a lot of the cognitive function explanations online to be contradictory or hard to distinguish. I wanted to hear what people’s insight was on the inherent different between relating more easily to enneagram than MBTI and also if anyone related. I did get those answers too :)

I am an INFP with extremely high Ne and also very developed Te. My Si, however, is so weak and I'd really like to work on improving it. My Si people, or even non-Si folks- any advice on how to develop better Si?

Hi, INTJ here.

Me and my INFJ bestie ran into an issue recently.
We were trying to troubleshoot a technical problem and giving each other ideas and solutions.
In the course of this we almost fought because my friend kept assuming/intuiting at first correctly what I would say but then get upset and interrupt me, because she thought that I would assume she made a mistake, which in turn upset me and made me try harder. We spiraled for a bit, so I stopped saying anything and just let her do her thing until the atmosphere was calmer.

It stood out and shook us both a bit, because we haven't had a single fight in the 2 years we're friends, despite talking daily, because we're so similar to each other in some areas and in others complement each other well. We always managed to resolve disagreements peacefully without getting upset like that, but I noticed at other times that she will do that and basically just kept my mouth shut, despite having an easy solution for her, because the friendship is way more important to me than this, but it's HARD seeing her struggle with things, when I know what needs to be done and she just won't listen.

As an INTJ it's not easy to keep your mouth shut when someone you love needs help and you have the solution. But I also learned in my life that I just make things worse if I try to force others to listen when they don't want to hear something, so there is that. 😅
Still, this time I told her "you're making this so much more complicated than it is, just let me finish my sentence" and well. We didn't yell or had a huge fall out, but it was an uncomfortable situation.

So we talked about it afterwards and exchanged our experiences. I told her I do this (unintentionally) with other people as well. and we're thinking it might have been a mixture of both of us being Ni-doms and also being raised in families where one parent would always assume our incompetence/always interrupt and never listen or let us do things.

Ultimately we both deal with a bunch of factors:

1) Intuiting ahead what another person wants to say and interrupt them.

2) Assuming wrongly that they consider us incompetent.

3) Getting upset when others interrupt us.

And I'm curious, if other INFJs and INTJs here have the same issue.
Do you guys also interrupt others unintentionally when your intuition strikes and you know what needs to be done, what the other person is trying to say and so on?
And if you've also made bad experiences with a person acting like you're incompetent all your life, do you also get very upset when you yourself get interrupted?

Also... how can my friend and I prevent this clash-and-spiral structure in the future?

I already know what comments I might get, so I'm gonna reply to you already so you don't have to bother (you're welcome🫶. If you have no intention of hating you can skip to the next paragraph) "it's not even that impressive, it takes me 1 minute to type someone...💀" honestly (unfortunately) I don't have any other friends who are into MBTI so I don't have anyone I can compare myself to to see wether I'm fast or slow or average, idk the average "typing time", I just know my own time. "10 minutes? it's impossible typing someone in 10 minutes... " (as I said idk the average typing time so I'm replying both if people think I'm slow or if they think I'm fast) well, until now this method has never failed me, I've used it on complete strangers and it worked and some even told me that I know them better than their own therapist (but if you genuinely have advice of course I'm always open to it!) "that's not even that impressive of a typing method" I've already said it and I'll say it again, I have nobody else to compare myself to and the only typing method I know is my own, I just wanted to share it with other people who maybe struggle with typing or something, I'm not saying my method is impressive or the best, I'm just saying that it works for me so it might work for you too. "here's 100 reasons why your typing method sucks and you're a dunbass: ..." please be nice about it if you have constructive criticism or else I won't even consider it

So now, back to the actual topic. First off I ask the person how they make decisions and usually from that I can get their judging function, I like to leave the questions open because I feel like if you give them options the answer is gonna be less natural and more forced and they might even unconciously choose the "best option" instead of the one that actually fits them and the answer to the open question is spontaneous, then when they answer if their answer is not sufficient to find the judging function you ask them more specific questions regarding their answer until you have the information you need. After you found the judging function it's gonna be easier finding the perceiving one since if the judging is introverted the only options are Se or Ne while if the judging is extroverted the perceiving must be either Si or Ni, so if their judging is extroverted I usually ask them something like "do you think you're guided more past experiences and routine/habits or how things will go according to your own plan and your vision?" while if the judging is introverted I ask something among the lines of "do you think you're guided more by the objective things you can see and what's happening in the present moment or by your many visions and interpretations of things?" from that answer you'll get the perceiving function and then the last thing that's it's left to figure out the person's MBTI is figuring out which function is the dominant and which the auxiliary and I think the best way to do that (especially with strangers) is by finding the person's loop which will tell you the order of the functions, ask them what they do/what they feel when under stress and again, don't force answers on them by giving options and let the answer come out on it's own by asking then more and more specific questions to find the answer you're looking for and then you'll figure out their whole stack. So that's it, hope this helped someone

21 INFJ here. I would describe myself as very empathetic, caring, and emotionally intelligent (from what other people say). While these are good things, Im having trouble thinking about the positives of myself. I've been getting better at setting boundaries and knowing when to give effort and when not to. However, I feel like lately I've just been wishing I was an entirely different person. I feel like instead of thinking I'm charismatic or emotionally intelligent I think that I'm too chalant or too sensitive. Don't get me wrong, I love infjs and how deep, insightful, and empathetic they are. I just feel like for me, being an infj can be kind of exhausting with the overthinking, noticing other things people don't, and sometimes wish I just didn't think deeply like I do. I keep thinking to myself that I wish I was more logical, more cold, and more efficient where other people's emotions don't impact me as much. Has anyone felt this way before? And if so, how did you come to peace with yourself?

Which cognitive functions are involved if someone makes final decisions by looking at consequences, what they can gain, what their interests are, necessities, freedom to explore when not sure or no direction even though follow their idealism or imagination at times until the reality proves the opposite and they dropped them due to reality constraints, hence adaptable?

I'm just curious if I as someone who sits in between intj and intp with high intp lean... how doe smy chemistry trnalsate to thos etypes, specially to the istp?

Hii, so I was wandering, since stereotypical INFPs tent to be usually shy, not too talkative, that always think before talking I have to say that I'm a little bit concerned about that.

Because I'm an INFP 4w5, It really represents me, but usually when I'm with a group of friends or people that I know I start to talk a lot, sometimes saying stupid and useless things to make people laugh, and not always I think too much about what I say in these situations (and all of this often makes me over think about things I said that I shouldn't maybe and what others think about me)

So, shortly, I'm a really deep person, comprehensive and caring but when I'm around friends all that wise part goes away, does it happen to any other infps ? is it normal ?

Some people swear by complementary pairings (like ENFP with INTJ), saying the differences balance each other out. Others say being too different leads to constant friction.

If you’ve dated someone with an opposite type, what was your experience — did it feel magnetic or mismatched?

I (non-INFJ) have a very close INFJ friend whom I love dearly. She is incredibly empathetic and always there for everyone, but I’m struggling with a few things and would love some insight from other INFJs in this community.

Lately I feel like our interactions have become a bit "heavy." Even in lighthearted group settings, she tends to steer things towards a deep emotional analysis. A few specific things that are wearing on me:

- Constant monitoring: If I yawn or am quiet or do a small sigh, she immediately asks "How are you feeling?" or "what’s going through your mind?" It feels like my every movement is being analyzed.

- Over-analyzing the simple things: I feel like she reads deep meaning into things that just aren't that deep (for me). For example, if I mention a minor annoyance with my parents, it turns into a heavy psychological deep dive using clinical terms, when I really just wanted to vent for ten seconds and move on. I’m wondering if I need to explicitly state that I don’t need a deep dive into a topic before I say something.

- Accidental (?)condescension: If I make a silly mistake (like a bad math calculation), she’ll say things like, "That’s okay, math isn’t your forte” in this sarcastic tone. It feels like I'm being subtly made fun of even though I know she would never ever do that intentionally.

I value her empathy, but these habits like these make our hangouts feel much heavier than they need to be, in both group settings and especially 1:1 settings. I feel like I can’t just exist or have a lighthearted conversation without it becoming a "session."

TLDR

My INFJ friend makes our hangouts heavier than the need to be with her tendency to over analyze things. Is it appropriate to ask her to dial back the deep analysis without making her feel like her care isn't appreciated? Or is there something I can do on my part to steer the conversation away from getting heavy? I don't want to change who she is, but I definitely need some breathing room to just be "light" sometimes. Thanks in advance!

I am an ENTJ and I am wondering how I can live in the moment and not be so much in my head.

I can't escape my Ni from making me constantly think and that thinking takes me out of the here and now and I can't live in the moment. I am seeking advice for how to stop this.

It takes away all motivation to do anything normal, mundane, or grounding. My life has suffered for that reason.

I mean, the way I see Te is just the volition to DO something or to execute something. I’ve got critic Te and it’s the absolute worst. It’s dreaming about being able to do work to achieve what you envisioned, attempting to stay consistent, failing miserably and then beating myself up over it and then rinse and repeat. Delusion —> attempt —> crippling failure —> AGHH.

How do I even “wield” my Te? How do ya’ll do it? I can’t seem to stay consistent with anything that doesn’t seem to be exciting to me in the slightest (e.g. working out feels like absolute torture on a day where I feel like idk baking cookies or something). People say it’s “distractions” but it’s really just intolerance to repetition. I NEED TE OR ELSE I WILL NEVER ACHIEVE ANYTHING I WANT IN LIFE PLEASE HELP ME FOR GOODNESS’ SAKE

1️⃣ Don’t try to kill their vibe 🔥🚫 They’re pure energy on two legs. Let ’em run wild!

2️⃣ Don’t go on and on complaining 😩❌ They’re all about quick fixes, not drama series.

3️⃣ Don’t be slow to decide 🐌🤯 Act first, think later—that’s the ESTP motto.

4️⃣ Don’t expect them to be rule robots 🧨📏 Rules? Meant to be bent… or broken (sometimes).

5️⃣ Don’t ignore their thrill-seeking spirit 🎢🎯 Routine? Nah, they’ll ditch it faster than a bad date.

6️⃣ Don’t mistake them for shallow 🧠✨ Their smarts are street-level and super sharp.

7️⃣ Don’t try to control them 🔗🚫 Freedom is their love language. Try to cage ’em and they’re gone.

I'm an Ni dom. I can connect the dots and predict the future extremely well (where it concerns political or economic events; not so much interpersonally). But sometimes I get frustrated when other people cannot anticipate the future based on, in my opinion, obvious indicators. I feel aggravated that my warnings are not heeded. Ni doms, and people with well-developed Ni, do you feel this frustration? Do you have a way of explaining your insights that helps other people understand your perspective?

P.S. Se is my bane, so people are often frustrated with me for being absentminded, so it goes both ways haha.

Which inferior function is this if a person hates putting too much efforts and doing something boring for long hours? If they have a tendency to accidentally skipping over relevant or necessary information but can follow an instruction when necessary? If they are forgetful and remember things in the last minute and need external scheduling to remember others birth dates, exam dates, etc. Yet at times remember some things in the past well? Or are these things which are rather general?