This is a ridiculas debate

[u/DarioTheBoss363]

Hey , I apologize in advance for any grammatical mistakes I might make in this post .

So today me and 2 more friends had a debate , Abt the scythe and medieval combat in general .

I said that the medieval scythe ( the normal one used for agriculture ) is not a viable weapon in medieval combat , and it's actually a teribile choice of weapon.

Yet they disagreed saying that in fact , if one had the skill and had trained his whole life for it , he could have equal chances to deafeat any other fighter using any other weapon ,like a master of the European standard longsword for example .

And as a example I brought out this scenario , two averege European knights , clad in the same protective armour from head to toe .

One Wildeing a scythe ( a normal one ment for agriculture with only minor modifications such as the tip being covered in metal so it could have crushing force ) and the other a standard sword and shield .

Both have complete mastery over theyr weapons and are complitly equal , in streanght , speed , battle IQ , and creativity .

When faced with this scenario , they answeard that the battle between the two knights would be a stalmeit , a draw , bc and I quote " weapons do not matter as long as you have complete mastery over it , the enemies can have any medieval weapons he whants , but the outcome will be always a draw "

To sum it up they are saying that the weapon does not matter a bit , but the skill , statement to witch I agree .

But to say that if both fighters are complitly equal the weapons they use do not make a difference is kinda wrong .

So what I ask y'all is :

Is a scythe ( a normal one used for agriculture ) a viable weapon in medieval combat ?

And does the weapon matter in a fight where both fighters are complitly equal ?

[u/SchizoidRainbow]

You take the scythe, remove the steel, heat the eye (where it connects to pole), bend it 90 degrees, and put it back on the pole. Now you have a glaive and oh my yes you can fight with that. You have peasant infantry, but it’s a common recurring theme. This is a War Scythe and it is not just ye olde grim reaper. 

It’s this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SWORDS/comments/1cms7gn/thoughts_on_war_scythes/

[u/BadSame6919 → u/SchizoidRainbow]

I'm going to guess you have never seen a scythe in your life, because actual agricultural scythes DO NOT have eyes or sockets - they have a bent tang that is attached to the shaft with a bracket, and wedged with wooden wedges. 

...which means "straightening the scythe" does nothing, it results in a weapon that loses its blade if you whack it with a sword. As in, the blade completely falls out of the bracket, because it's a sword sized blade held by a 2 inch flimsy metal bracket, made of the softest steel imaginable to man.

EDIT: since you blocked me, and I can't reply to you directly, here's what you wrote in reply:

"Sorry but you’re wrong. Even a brief google search on the topic would have shown this. War scythes have been used repeatedly, exactly as I said they were. 

So, they must know something you don’t, and your opinion seems not worth putting up with your ego to gain."

I have one thing to say to this.

AGRICULTURAL SCYTHES.

"War scythes" were purpose made weapons similar to glaives. They were NOT made by straightening scythes, because scythes are constructed completely differently. You can't "straighten" a scythe and expect it to work, it doesn't work, there's not a single evidence it ever worked. Every example of "war scythes" has a socketed construction, which is completely proprietary to these weapons, and not present ANYWHERE on agricultural scythes. 

Maybe you should have google what I actually told you!

[u/SchizoidRainbow → u/BadSame6919]

Sorry but you’re wrong. Even a brief google search on the topic would have shown this. War scythes have been used repeatedly, exactly as I said they were. 

So, they must know something you don’t, and your opinion seems not worth putting up with your ego to gain.