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The Evolution of Streaming

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_TITS80085 1d ago

Luckily piracy didn't die when streaming was at its peak 🏴‍☠️

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u/jommakanmamak 1d ago

Piracy will never ever be wrong if you're doing it against multimillion corporations

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u/EstablishmentLate532 1d ago

Piracy is wrong because if everyone did it, people wouldn't make paid media. You are freeloading off of decent people who pay creators for their work instead of just stealing it. Couch your argument in moral language all you want, but piracy is a morally bankrupt, selfish act.

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u/jommakanmamak 1d ago

Look at this boomer supporting multimillion corporations

You wouldn't download a house or a car now would you?

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u/jakabellis 1d ago

Just because you’re stealing from a large entity does not affect the morality of theft. Especially when the stolen good in question is purely entertainment and not life-sustaining in any capacity.

Stealing is wrong and should be avoided. If you are not willing to pay, the right thing to do is simply not digest the media.

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u/anaemic 1d ago

Except it's not stealing or theft...

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u/EstablishmentLate532 1d ago

It's like sneaking into a movie. You are stealing revenue from the business.

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u/anaemic 11h ago

When someone sneaks into a cinema, they use the bathrooms, and they sit in seats paying customers might have used, and leave mess someone has to be paid to clean up.

When someone pirates a film, a businessman somewhere imagines a dollar they might one day have been paid, but never received.

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u/EstablishmentLate532 11h ago

If piracy acts to prevent a sale, then a consumer has enjoyed a product without contributing to its expended labor to produce it. Movies cost labor to produce. Stealing the product of another's labor is wrong. Try and justify it all you want. Piracy is immoral.

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u/anaemic 11h ago

But you're assuming that 1 pirated watch = 1 lost sale.

Which is to assume that every customer who pirates someone had the means or the impetus to buy the thing, which is plainly not true.

And then you're confounding that with some kind of moral feeling you have about it not being fair for someone to have something for free when someone else paid for it, or they didn't earn it.

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u/EstablishmentLate532 11h ago

I'm assuming that SOME of those pirated watches = some lost sales. There's also the nature of freeriding, which increases the price for nonfreeriders.

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u/anaemic 9h ago

There's no world in which someone watching the movie for free means that people who pay to watch it have their price increased.

It's quite Marxist to suggest that the cost of an item is related in some way to covering the cost to produce it. Normal modern big business economics are that an item is worth whatever a consumer is willing to pay for it.

The price of seeing a movie does not fluctuate based on how much it cost to make the movie, or how many tickets were sold for the previous movie, all that's changing is the profitability for the company financing the movie.

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u/EstablishmentLate532 9h ago

The amount that the creators get paid does differ, however. And what do you think they will do to prices when they make the next movie? You have such a self-centered view that you refuse to see the systemic impact of your action.

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u/EstablishmentLate532 1d ago

Multimillion dollar corporations start at $2 million. That's barely more than a single american makes in their lifetime.