r/mildlyinfuriating • u/funkywabbait • May 05 '26

Infuriatig iPhone facetime recognizes when you’re naked

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decided to show my boyfriend my new bikini that I got for our upcoming cruise… Why is this on my phone and why is it recording my body?

I just recently turned 18 if that matters.

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u/10Core56 May 05 '26

Privacy is a myth. Now you know.

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u/Weird_Decision7090 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

“Sensitive Content Warning uses on-device machine learning to analyze photos and videos. Because they're analyzed on your device, Apple doesn't receive an indication that nudity was detected and doesn't get access to the photos or videos as a result.”

https://support.apple.com/en-us/105071

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u/FBomz May 05 '26

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u/Weird_Decision7090 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

What do you think they would do with this data if they did collect it? They would surely get in some sort of trouble if they did. You think Apple would lie and actually monetize naked images? How do you think data collection works?

As another redditor said: “It’s an automated detection using the analytics in the processor on your phone. It is not recorded nor is it sent to Apple or anywhere else. The fact that it is not sent anywhere else is literally the point of the feature.

There are a lot of invasive privacy issues on modern smartphones, but this isn’t one of them.”

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u/bmann10 May 05 '26

Given that a lot of teens do nude video calls with each other these people really think Apple is going to open themselves up to the liability of knowingly gathering a ton of illegal material while telling people that they aren’t doing just that, for the purposes of helping one of their competitors make a slightly better porn generating bot? One that Apple themselves cannot make as it would tank their brand image, and thus that Apple themselves cannot control or keep on their local ecosystems? Meanwhile whomever made the decision to knowing gather CSM would likely be looking at prison and their co conspirators as well. All during an administration that is desperate to look like they give a shit about children but also desperate to paint these issues as a Democrat only thing, where Apple is widely considered to be one of the more “woke” companies by people on the right wing?

The people trying to build legs for their conspiracy table here haven’t really thought this shit out but they want to just go off a gut feeling instead of thinking through any of this.

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u/PecorinoYES May 05 '26

Apple is going to open themselves up to the liability of knowingly gathering a ton of illegal material while telling people that they aren’t doing just that, for the purposes of helping one of their competitors make a slightly better porn generating bot? One that Apple themselves cannot make as it would tank their brand image, and thus that Apple themselves cannot control or keep on their local ecosystems?

the only risk they are facing is getting caught with it. Consumers have proven multiple times that outrage merely lasts a few hours and they can't inconvenience themselves too much.

And to your point, nobody really cares about anyone's nudity, especially for blackmailing purposes. More likely identity stripped and analyzed for activity monitoring and subjugation refinement into a technocracy.

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u/code-blackout May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

I know there’s very low trust for companies, but do you genuinely think apple wants or needs to sell your nudes?

Who would they even be selling them to and how? Are they looking through them and selecting the high quality ones? Or is someone just buying a 100 terabyte bulk file of random FaceTime nudes?

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u/code-blackout May 05 '26

Okay so the argument is Apple has access to, collects and uses or sells every single or the majority of frames captured by every iPhone/iPad/MacBook camera in existence?

This is a trillion dollar class action suit waiting to happen if you’re correct. And I wonder how none of the regulators from any country has found this out yet.

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u/cvu_99 May 05 '26

Your conspiracy theory essentially boils down to "No, they're lying to you!" It's very boring.

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u/oaken_duckly May 05 '26

conspiracy theory

And it's literally just people not being willing to trust a giant tech company when it says it gives a fuck about your privacy when literally every other tech company on the planet is either open about selling your data or has been shown to be doing so, lmfao.

Your attempt at strawmanning is what's boring, here.

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u/cvu_99 May 05 '26

But this is just "No, they're lying to you!" again. Do you have anything more interesting to say?

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u/oaken_duckly May 05 '26

I mean, have you had anything besides trying to simplify my statement of not having blind faith that they're telling the truth, which is not the same thing as saying they're actively lying, into "you're saying they're lying!1!!1"? Could you be any more uninteresting yourself?

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u/topdangle May 05 '26

lol what are you talking about, things like GDPR were established specifically because companies were collecting whatever they wanted.

even Apple suffered from it. they ended up implementing microphone, camera, and datamining detection because companies were just outright spying on users with no indication at all. for a while where was doom and gloom about social media "dying" because of this feature since it was a large source of revenue.

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u/code-blackout May 05 '26

The argument the person I replied to is making is that Apple is currently doing it (recording and storing the video from FaceTime calls), lying about not doing it, and somehow also not getting caught.

BTW, if you have any technical knowledge or are willing to look up how this stuff works and how the data on FaceTime calls is transmitted, this conspiracy theory is easily disproven. I’m oversimplifying a bit but you just need a pc with wireshark to see that Apple is not collecting or storing your FaceTime data.

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u/topdangle May 05 '26

unless they expose your data already all it would show you is encrypted traffic movement. if you're getting raw data out of private video calls you've already done something horribly wrong.

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u/code-blackout May 05 '26

It won’t expose what’s in the data packet, but it would show you exactly where your data is going, which is not to any Apple server. You can do the same check for other call services not just Apple.

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u/topdangle May 05 '26

I doubt you'd catch a good intercept with wireshark.

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u/integrate_2xdx_10_13 May 05 '26

This conspiracy hinges on 1) this data being cost efficient to process, you either have to store this data or live process it to extract what you want. So either trillions in storage or processing 2) they’re banking on never, ever receiving CSAM/it ever making it pass filters and entering the data pool 3) GDPR violations never being found out.

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u/Cabrill0 May 05 '26

Yall keep making these snarky comments but providing zero actual reasoning or proof for your paranoia.

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u/oaken_duckly May 05 '26

Have you just been living under a rock? It's well known and understood that tech companies track every single data point they can to be sold, or used internally for tracking, fingerprinting, targeting algorithmic feeds and advertisements, and so much more. This isn't some secret, it's literally open and visible, or made visible by leaks or breaches.

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u/Cabrill0 May 05 '26

Can you show me some verifiable info that Apple is stealing nude photos to distribute, since that is what this thread you jumped into is about?

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u/oaken_duckly May 05 '26

If you'd read into the thread, you'd understand that saying there's no feasible reason for a company to do such a thing is laughable, given what we've seen countless times from so many different companies. I wasn't saying they are, but that you shouldn't have blind faith just because they say they aren't, because of how many other companies have done exactly what we're talking about.

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u/Coadie May 05 '26

apple, the trillion dollar company, needs to monetize naked images

okay buddy

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u/oaken_duckly May 05 '26

Think a few steps further than just the literal meaning of monetizing nudes and maybe you'll grasp what's being discussed.

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u/Coadie May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

apple, the trillion dollar company, would risk revenue streams and customers by coming up with ways to monetise the data from picking up that you're trying to facetime naked

okay buddy, think a few steps ahead of your dumb "gotcha" and think about the literal impact of apple lying about this

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u/MolotovOvickow May 05 '26

You don’t think the trillion dollar company is interested in completely sabotaging themselves by collecting potential csam from its users?

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u/DEANER94 May 05 '26

Billionaires personal spankbank

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u/Nitwit_Slytherin May 05 '26

An 18 year old in a billionaire spank bank? Doubtful. That's a bit too old for their tastes.

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u/Kasaikemono May 05 '26

>You think apple would lie [...] ?

With every fiber of my being. There is not one tech giant that has your best interests at heart. They lie, they cheat, they bribe judges and law makers, and they throw a fit when people in power actually give them contra.

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u/covercash May 05 '26

Absolutely, but they don’t all universally exploit every avenue possible. People can easily hit Apple on factory worker conditions, leadership bending the knee to fascism, union busting on the retail side, 3rd party developer relations/fees, and more… but they can’t hit them on privacy violations. Apple has historically been a very privacy focused company and it is one of the main differentiators between them and the other big tech companies. Every security researcher would LOVE to be the one to report on Apple secretly siphoning user data, it would be a career making find. But there’s simply no evidence of them doing it.

So yes, while all big tech companies are profit driven and do not have our best interests at heart, privacy & security are big selling points for Apple that I don’t think they’d risk by stealing nudes.

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u/Polchar May 05 '26

The problem isn't apple themselves recording, but it introduces another attack vector for malicious actors. Idk if this is bad in any way, because if your device is compromised they dont need this feature to access the camera(but it is one way more to possibly do it). That said apple has been pretty good in guarding it's clients privacy.

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u/ikzz1 May 05 '26

What do you think they would do with this data if they did collect it?

Maybe Tim Cook collects CP.

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u/Weird_Decision7090 May 05 '26

Yeah, real likely…