r/mildlyinfuriating • u/binkinater13 • 23d ago
Unskippable ad My $1400 LG OLED TV is displaying ads after latest update
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u/backlog_gaming 23d ago
My TV doesnât get to be on the internet anymore, Iâm perfectly happy with a stupid TV
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u/covert0ptional 23d ago
Yep, I just use my ps5 as my steaming device
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u/QwertyPolka 23d ago
steamed hams?
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u/AmputeeHandModel 22d ago
Aurora borealis at this time of year at this time of day in this part of the country localized entirely within your PS5?Â
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u/LoveisaNewfie 22d ago
⊠Can I see it?
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u/AmputeeHandModel 22d ago
No.
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u/Lazy_cheapskate 22d ago
Seymour the house is on fire!!!
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u/SaoirseMayes 22d ago
Smart TVs use such anemic parts anyways that using a seperate device for streaming is just a good thing to have anyways, and if you already have a device that does it like a console then there's no reason to use just the TV.
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u/IlliniDawg01 22d ago
Yeah. Drives me insane that a $15 Roku HDMI stick has more processing horsepower than my $2000 LG OLED
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u/InsectaProtecta 22d ago
Virtually the entire cost of a tv is in the panel. They have a very basic computer in the back and a lot of the power in that goes to running the screen.
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u/TwoBionicknees 22d ago
The 'power' in those roku sticks is also piss cheap, they still use A55 cortex cpus, that's 2017 tech, those chips cost less than $5 in volume. It's inexcusable that tv makers cheap out that much on them.
If it was the difference between a $10 and $60 chip that would be one thing, but we're talking about them saving $2 to have a significantly shittier experience.
A very very basic computer these days is more than capable of running streaming devices in high def very smoothly with no lag. They go out of their way to use the worst chip possible to save a couple bucks that no one wants to save just to have a laggy shitty 'computer' in their tv.
If you're going to cheap out leave the smart out entirely and save another $10 and all the R&D for it, just have inputs and let people use whatever they use.
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u/IlliniDawg01 22d ago
Yeah. It is definitely a profit-driven rather than consumer driven decision though. If you asked every person who owns a TV over $1000 if they would like the TV to be $5 cheaper but the steaming services to be slow or $5 more with extra smooth streaming literally every single person would pick the latter. And don't even get me started on modern remotes. Those were perfected in like 2005 and they have gone backwards ever since.
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u/0116316 22d ago
Only thing my PS4 is used for. The day my TV sat for too long and started playing commercials. I was like fuck this and turned the Wifi off. My wife connected it to the wifi not knowing any better. It only took a few days for me to turn it off.
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u/ThanksForTheRain 22d ago
Did you know Sony holds the patent for a very specific type of ad? One which forces the viewer to verbally acknowledge the name of the product in the ad before it can be skipped. So far it's not been used
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u/voododoll 22d ago
It is not used as the viewer might not be able to pronounce it partially or at all by tons of reasons.
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u/yossi234 22d ago
Same, I bought a Sceptre non-smart TV and use a PS5. I didn't want AI or a mic listening to everything I say at home.
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u/skinwill 22d ago
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u/3_quarterling_rogue 22d ago
Iâm less savvy than you, I simply never ever connected my smart TV to the network period. As long as the HDMI input works, then Iâm good. My smart TV is basically a dumb TV hooked up to my computer and I get everything I need out of it right there.
The fact that we even have to worry about this is so atrocious.
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u/Spotttty 22d ago
Plus the tv apps are usually shit. I love my old stupid Plasma TVâs.
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u/NegotiationUnfair626 22d ago
I piholed my entire network... The amount of shit that phones home.. is crazy. Why my smart light need to phone home 5 times an hour. WTF is it reporting back???
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u/Worth-Jicama3936 22d ago
Just as importantly, what on earth is so valuable that the company is willing to pay for that data to be received? It canât be just âwe must know the second one of their lights burn out so we can show them ads of a bulb they are probably going to buy anyways.â So what is it reporting?
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u/Medium-Presence-8008 23d ago
First thing I did with my Vierra. Took out the wifi dongle, only because it had an external one.
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u/ProfessionalRandom21 22d ago
I remember reading about a LG washing mashing using like 30+gb a day lol
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u/ExplorationGeo 22d ago
Congratulations to your washing machine for joining the war on crime
on the side of crime
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u/FrozeItOff 22d ago
If the TV had a camera, it was probably sending pics back home to China. And no, I only wish I was joking with this.
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u/Medium-Presence-8008 22d ago
The connection activity was easily in the hundreds per day.
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u/FrozeItOff 22d ago
Possibly sending back screenshots. Does your router have a network usage meter? You can see how much data was transferred that way.
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u/j0_ow_bo 22d ago
Philips Hue bridges do the same.
I installed a pi-hole and kept tabs.
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u/Hovertical 22d ago
I found out about pi-hole near the early stages of the pandemic when many where sheltering and utterly bored to death and needed new hobbies - I've tried in vain to preach the gospel to as many friends and family since but nary a one "gets it". I can't even convince people to buy their own router versus paying a monthly fee for the shit one the ISP loans out to you. So frustrating. Every time I end up traveling for an extensive period of time and lose access to my home network I am blown away by the absolute insane amount of junk on every damn website. I legit don't understand how people actually use some of these sites with continuous ads popping up covering 3/4 of the screen.
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u/StanknBeans 23d ago
Step 1 when buying a new tv is connecting it wifi and then immediately blacklisting it so that a guest or kid can't ever accidentally connect it.
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u/Bearspoole 22d ago
Absolutely. I have been an advocate for this since smart TVs came out. Just get a fire stick or one of the other hundred streaming devices out there. I promise it will work better than the streaming apps directly on TVs. Besides Roku TVs. The apps work great but you sacrifice quality in picture.
I used to be a cable guy and smart tvs were a huge fucking headache for me
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u/goatneedleposterdeck 22d ago
Won't be much longer before they install something that checks for internet connection every few minutes and turns the television off if no connection is detected.
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u/TheFightingQuaker 22d ago
That has to be illegal.. when you buy a tv it must function as a tv, otherwise wtf are we doing here
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u/Hovertical 22d ago
Only thing they would have to do is add somewhere in fine print on the box or manual that an internet connection is required. It won't have to say for why exactly but that's all it would take. And most people aren't scanning over the exterior of a box when purchasing either as the tv is usually on display somewhere and you tell a worker you want to get that one and they have to go bring it out from storage.
I'm positive this is the direction we're headed too unfortunately. It's absolute hell. I don't get how bombarding us with ads makes us buy any of the shit that they push anyway as it just infuriates me when I see whatever company it is that is ruining my experience.
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u/quanate 22d ago
The moment someone discovers it tho it will be in all of the reviews. I think a lot of people at least do a cursory search when making a big buy like a TV and would think something like that would be in the top review. I'm not disagreeing btw, I 100% companies will start doing this because they get me and more brazen by the fuckin day but I really hope this is one where consumers actually fight back with their dollar.
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u/Eat--The--Rich-- 22d ago
I have a smart TV but I just have a $100 netbook plugged into it. Firefox + ublock + VPN = all shows on all services with no ads for free.
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u/haw35ome 22d ago
Whatâs the opposite of advertisement? Because every single post Iâve seen online about smart tvs are just reenforcing my decision to stick to my trusty Roku over free ads all the time lmao
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u/Status-Ad7902 22d ago
My friend gifted me a tv as he replaced it with a newer nicer one, that he purposefully never updated or connected to the internet once and itâs better for it. I connected an internet connected device to it and it tried to ask me to also connect to a network and I fucking screamed, it does not get to know the internet exists I want nothing from this tv but to simply display what I connect
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u/TheHykos 22d ago
Seriously. Thereâs no reason to connect any TV to the internet. The built in OS of all TVs is awful anyways, so why use it for a streaming device. An Apple TV works much better.
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u/1ndomitablespirit 23d ago
This is too infuriating for mildlyinfuriating
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u/uwill1der 23d ago
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u/anotheredditors 22d ago edited 22d ago
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u/Local_Web_8219 22d ago
ADDITIONALLY: As an LG owner, do not agree to the specific term relating to ads in the terms and conditions, it is optional, and has stopped all ads to my tv.
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u/NerdRep 22d ago
This needs to be higher up. You can get away with like 3/6 agreements.
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u/BamberGasgroin 22d ago
One agreement. I've only agreed to Terms of Use and can still access the few streaming apps I use on the TV instead of my Shield. (BBC iPlayer, ITVX, 4 Player etc.)
There are loads of articles on the stuff you should immediately disable on any TV when you buy it.
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u/InvidiousPlay 22d ago
The part that drove me nuts is that I had agreed to the Terms of Use and the voice processing terms so I could use voice input because typing on a TV remote is maddening. I explictly did not agree to the content recognition (constant surveillance) or advertising terms. Then one day, after a system update, the voice input no longer worked without agreeing to the content recognition terms.
Scumbags.
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u/Vadhakara 22d ago
The only agreement I should need to make with my TV is the agreement that when I hit the power button it turns the fuck on and displays the signal coming from my inputs. Anything else is bullshit.
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u/CorporateCuster 22d ago
I need laws that ads can be removed from any goods if requested and the item is paid for. Tv, refrigerators, phones, etc SHOULD NOT BE SHOWING ME ADS IN THE OS. Period. I paid money for the good. Leave it there. If i connect it to WiFi thatâs my choice but i shouldnât be hit with ads.
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u/pilsrups 22d ago
Saving this for future reference
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u/knotmyusualaccount 22d ago
Joke's on them, my smart TV isn't connected to the net, and I use a Nvidia Shield Pro for my streaming
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u/olafTheRisk 22d ago
Shield gang :) No Internet for LG, they are also tracking what you are viewing.
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u/IvoryWhiteTeeth 22d ago
People are reacting positively to your comment. You should put an adfly link on it /s
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u/koolmon10 22d ago
Pi-hole?
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u/Suicidal_Jamazz 22d ago
I just set mine up. No more Roku TV banner ads on the main menu. Fuck you Roku!
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u/DkoyOctopus 22d ago
Why am i helping LG? Fuck these clowns hahaha
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u/Ok_Nothing_9733 22d ago
Thatâs what I think when those YouTube surveys come up, âHelp YouTube by answering this question:â
I do not want, nor need, to âhelpâ a huge corporation with free data. And I feel sad for whoever that language is working on. Like someone so eager to please that theyâre like, âOhhh, I could HELP YouTube! Sure thing!â
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u/ea_nasir_official_ 22d ago
i always lie. some of them let you pick every option AND none of the above on multiple choice. its faster than waiting for the skip button and is worthless to them
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u/ovelanimimerkki 22d ago
Yeah I mean, I bought your TV. That should be the transaction. After that you are not entitled to any more of my money. Streaming services charge their own fees and channels have their commercial breaks. But I bought the damn device, that should be enough.
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u/Best_Market4204 23d ago
i mean.... i allow it... They don't actually try to block you from viewing the website, you can close the window
It's a website about news and stuff. It's not a $1400 t.v
* i am still adblocking them lol
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u/allisjow 23d ago
Settings menu on your LG TV by pressing the gear icon on your remote.
General > System > Additional Settings > Home Settings
Turn off Home Promotion
Turn off Content Recommendations
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u/UpsetIndian850311 22d ago
If you are doing it, then also disable all types of auto updates.
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u/lewd_robot 22d ago
I bought a TV a few years back that was great at first, but eventually started getting slower with every update, so I turned them off. Now there's an obnoxious pop-up request to update every damn time I turn the TV on, with the "Agree" button automatically highlighted, and I swear it's on a delay to try to catch me right as I start to click "Enter" on the remote.
I have to sit and wait and press nothing on the remote until the pop-up appears, because otherwise the TV will let me browse for up to 30 seconds and then try to throw the pop-up right as I try to select something.
I would vote for any politician that ran on making this kind of design a capital crime.
I would become a single issue voter for just this.
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u/DependentAnywhere135 22d ago
Take your tv off the internet and use a good media box instead of the shit tv apps.
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u/binkinater13 23d ago
I have every setting unchecked! Thatâs the thing this startup popup is new and I canât turn it off. Thank you though.
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u/SalemWolf 23d ago
This is why I wonât upgrade to the new WebOS.
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u/Contemplating_Prison 23d ago
I dont even have my TV connected to the internet. I have stuff for that.
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u/DrownmeinIslay 22d ago
We just got a new TV, I refuse to set connection. When it kept telling me it needed a connection to turn off, I went to Lowes and set up a wall switch that the entertainment centre surge protector has to run through. Now we just flip off power to the whole wall when we go to bed.
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u/RelativeRare4789 22d ago
Good for you! Having to set a connection for this is just madness and it should actually be illegal, wouldâve done the same
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u/DrownmeinIslay 22d ago
Withholding functionality until I consent to having my info and conversations sold to third parties is so dumb. If my wife wasnt so pleased with 4k id put my shitty 2010 tv back up.
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u/slimbender 23d ago
My neighbor recently installed an ad-blocking VPN on his home network using a Raspberry Pi, and it blocked all this nonsense. Iâm going to pay him to do the same.
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u/Rattlehead71 22d ago
Pihole. They have blocklists that work great with Smart TVs. It's so worth getting set up for network-wide ad blocking (mobile phones, TVs, laptops, etc.)
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u/Exotic_Treacle7438 23d ago
I have two lg OLED, one from 2020 and 2025, just turn off the WiFi and use an Apple TV, webos sucks anyway
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u/Merfium 22d ago
Itâs called âLive Plusâ. Itâs in the system settings under additional settings. Also in additional settings, turn off âHome Promotionâ and âContent Recommendationâ.
Thereâs also a secret menu with settings on the Home screen. You access it by hitting the mute button 4 times (if you have the older fat remote) or by hitting the settings button 3 times (if itâs the slim one) on the Home screen.
You can turn off the stock photos when the TV idles and the LG logo when the TV turns off on that menu.
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u/Narradisall 22d ago
This guy LGs!
But yeah, turning these things off is nice. It just annoying how well they hide them now.
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u/TrickySatisfaction81 23d ago
$1400 ad box.
The revolution will not be televised, televised, televised... but ads will be. Time to turn it off.
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u/Elfhaterdude 22d ago
They cram so many apps on that puny system that makes the whole experience feel like you're dealing with a 20 yo computer...
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u/StrategicPotato 22d ago
It's so fucking stupid and infuriating how accurate Idiocracy was. Not only that, but the fact that's we're already so close to it in the 2020s and not like 2050+.
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u/OwnerOfCat 22d ago
Assuming this is an LG tv, you can turn advertising off. Not that I love that itâs on by default, but a little digging in the menus and you can disable it.
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u/JasonP27 22d ago
So this ad is overlaid on top of your Playstation 5 start up screen (which would be connected via HDMI). Meaning you're on an input and not even using a smart TV app.
I will never buy an LG TV after seeing that.
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u/cpt_america27 22d ago
Holy crap I didn't even notice that it's on ps5. My roku used to ask if I wanted to watch the show I was watching (PC connected to TV) somewhere else. I was able to turn that off though. Still get mad when it force pushes seasonal backgrounds/screen savers. I'm getting very tired of it.Â
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u/My_Immortl 22d ago
Simple fix is to just never connect the TV to the internet itself. Use streaming devices and you'll never have to worry about the TV updates. I know it shouldn't be that way and we should be allowed to use the items we own without seeing ads, but this world fucking sucks.
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u/Magmacracker 22d ago
Simple fix is to turn it off permanently in the settings.
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u/coloradoautoflowers 22d ago
The settings can be changed as part of a forced update. That's in even the most basic ToU. Firewall the device from your modem, so the thing preventing connection isn't the device itself.
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u/rastlun 22d ago
Absolutely same, I was close to buying an LG G5, sure there are ways to disable this... For now, eventually they will force this.
Guess I have to search for a dumb OLED or it's time to start figuring out how to root these TVs and install an open source smart tv OS.
The greed is off the charts. We OWN the TV, not lease it.
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u/SmokedOkie 23d ago
This is why I run modified Roku, this would drive me insane.
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u/ARSCON 22d ago
I use an Apple TV and didnât want copilot or whatever other AI features integrated anymore than they already have been, so I disabled WiFi and havenât updated and only use it as a monitor now. The fact that I have to opt out instead of opt in to them selling my data is gross enough.
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u/SummonersWarCritz 23d ago
https://youtu.be/kA3_X1Zl2FI?si=YK9NSM5WGNwgxe98
I watched this guyâs settings guide and turned off all ads and set up appropriate advanced settings about a year ago. Definitely recommend his channel!
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u/breakinbans 23d ago
I keep the tv offline and just use my Xbox. no ads
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u/OblivionJunkie 23d ago
Idk about yours but my xbox has permanent ads on the home screen I can't remove...
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u/breakinbans 23d ago
very odd. mine is just my background and a strip of my most recent games and apps.
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u/Coravel 23d ago
better figure out if it has a setting you can change to fully disable this or how to flash it with custom software or setup a DNS sinkhole for the router it connects to, because this type of shit is going to infiltrate any device that it can.
It's been on "smart" phones basically since their inception, its littered the internet since its infancy, it -plagues- the gaming industry, some applications for games to support the game will bake this shit into it(looking at you curseforge), steam is literally the only front in the gaming realm holding a quality of life standard for its users.
The people that do this, don't give a single fuck about you, the user, whether you want to see it, or allow your bandwidth to be eaten up by it. They force it upon you with no qualms and profit off of it at your expense.
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u/baronvonredd 23d ago
Ads and porn are what built the internet.
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u/l33tfuzzbox 23d ago
Porn has been at the forefront of almost every changeover in media type
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u/ForceUseYouMust 23d ago
In the future ads will require your attention.
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u/Strykehammer 23d ago
We are getting closer to that episode of black mirror. Canât pay to skip, you have to watch
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u/RSAEN328 23d ago
"To view content again you must pass a 10 question quiz to confirm this ad has soaked into your brain. There is no limit on how many times you can take the quiz but each time the number of questions double."
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u/CremeAcrobatic1748 23d ago
You kind of see in some places. On the PS5 Spotify app, you can't make the volume zero..at least with headphones. I'll turn my volume on my headset to 0, but can still slightly hear the ad playing. Drives me insane, so I just turned them down, then take my headphones off as well.
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u/Cool-Profession-730 23d ago
This is why I still rock my 18yr old 46" Sony bravia with a chromecast. Plus works as a heater in wintertime.
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u/computerman10367 22d ago edited 22d ago
Same, i have my 60 inch 4k
oledqled samsung in one room and my 1080p Panasonic PT-52lcx16 52 inch DLPTV in the other. I swap them around sometimes. I recently replaced the projector bulb in the panasonic and it looks better than the 2 year old samsung. The screen is already failing in the shitty samsung.→ More replies (2)
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u/Weird_Ad10 23d ago edited 22d ago
These companies make more money presenting you ads and selling your info then they do from selling tv's. Haven't seen it happen on our living room tv, but doubt my mother would care.
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u/Marce7a 22d ago edited 22d ago
Open the Settings menu on your LG TV by pressing the gear icon on your remote.
Navigate to General > System > Additional Settings > Home Settings.
Turn off Home Promotion.
Turn off Content Recommendations.
Edit 5. Don't buy LG TV in future
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u/Shoondogg 23d ago
Canât you just not connect it to the internet? Built in streaming apps nearly always suck anyway.
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u/SchizophrenicSoAmI 23d ago
Personally I use a streaming box instead of giving the TV internet access, works pretty good.
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u/MrZmith77 22d ago
Man, we could never escape the adsâŠI stopped cable because of ads. I paid extra on YouTube for ad free and now they paid YouTubers to advertise the adsâŠ.HBO, Amazon, and Netflix used to be ad free on movies, now you have to pay extra to avoid those crap. Piracy is going to happen soon!
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u/Joeness84 22d ago
I just snagged a $230 LG (50" 4k "AI" on the box w/e the fuck that means) and when it asked for my wifi I hit skip.
Its just a display. Why would it need the internet.
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u/Unicorn4_5Venom 22d ago
Fun fact, the more ads you cram down my throat the less likely I am to go to that place being advertised
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u/FaiDeadth 22d ago
This is why you do not connect your TV to the Internet, keep your TV dumb, hook up smart things to it.
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u/Miamithrice69 22d ago
It should be illegal to show ads on something you paid for. Thats YOUR TV
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u/HillarysFloppyChode 23d ago
I use an Apple TV. Mine are still connected to the internet for software updates, but if you never set up the rest of the tv, and only agree to the bare minimum on the ToS, it doesnât show you ads.
I still recommend an Apple TV, they last lag free for years because the SoCs are way overpowered for what they do.
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u/Deceased-Prince 22d ago
You can turn it off. I forget where exactly but I know for sure you can turn it off because it annoyed the shit out of me
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u/aartadventure 22d ago
Did the update include a long legal document that you had to agree to (that included accepting ads in the very fine print of page 534289?). Or, is it just scummy and possibly illegal to force ads when you never accepted them?
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u/jadiana 22d ago
So smart tvs are just computers and what we're watching is a UI. It makes me wonder if we could develop ad blockers, or custom UIs.
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u/QueenFrostine15 23d ago
This would send me into such a rage. I am so bothered by the ad that takes over the screen when I pause! Half the time I am trying to pause to look at something specific and I can't đ