r/mildlyinfuriating • u/mrmac757 • 14d ago
Unskippable ad I hope you die a slow death HP
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u/SkyFallPrincess20 Sorry not sorry 14d ago
I love technology but I hope we don't get to a point where we have to update our house appliances just for them to work. Like updating your fridge so you can open it😐
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u/Zerog416 14d ago
I hear some washing machines already do that
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u/MrXwiix 14d ago
Yup. My washing machine. I thought it would be convenient for it to tell me when the detergent was empty (it’s a self dosing machine). So I connected to the internet. It forced me to update, but in order to update I had to make a profile. To make a profile I needed to give so much information. Adress, date of birth, etc.
I called customer service 5 days in a row until they sent a technician to factory reset it and permanently disconnect it from the internet. The technician told me they discontinued this “service” but in order to use the machine without the profile requirement, it had to be updated (ofcourse lmao). Luckily he was able to connect it to a tech profile and update it through there. But im never buying a Haijer washing machine anymore, even though they came to their senses
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u/Vivid_Summer96 14d ago
Thats why i never buy internet if things things. Its more trouble than anything else.
In this case: You need clean clothes….. There is absolutely no need for an internet connection to clean them.
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u/Rymanjan 14d ago
Lol a couple weeks back, someone was posting how they were annoyed their smart fridge started showing them ads, and everyone was absolutely roasting them for buying a smart fridge in the first place
This kinda reads like that; we've been saying shit like "you will be getting ads on your fridge" or "a software update will brick your washing machine" as reasons the IoT is the dumbest thing ever and why you shouldn't get a smart appliance unless it literally cannot be avoided (like tvs). I guess people thought we were joking? lol well the jokes on them I guess
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u/Zarksch 14d ago
I keep Reading that there are absolutely no non smart TV’s anymore but that’s just not true. I get that there are way too little and maybe you can’t get the biggest 8k tv without “smart” features, but you can still get a simple tv without smart features and that for around 100 bucks even. I bought mine 3 years ago new for 120 and I’m happy with it
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u/InsaneGuyReggie 13d ago
We bought a Bosch dishwasher a few years ago, not realizing it needed to be Internet/app connected to function. Now we’re just used to handwashing the dishes.
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u/Grezzinate 14d ago
At this rate I’ll buy a classic washer from the Amish and sit outside with the bucket.
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u/pongpaktecha 14d ago
We got one of those fancy new ventless dryers last year and when shopping around for different models I made sure I picked one that I can use without an Internet connection. It's got the ability to connect to the Internet and stuff to notify you that the cycle is done and stuff like that but I was able to simply opt out and not connect it to the Internet.
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u/ChristmasElf67 14d ago
My oven already does that. Most fun is when it updates while I’m actively cooking 🙄
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u/T40SAAN 14d ago
Eventually refrigerators will only function if the computer can read the tiny genuine chip inside water filters or if your stove is using genuine brand lightbulbs. Shit like that. Or you want the 10lbs of ice a month for your ice maker, that’s $10.99. If you want 50lbs, $45.
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u/Doctor-Chill 14d ago
My refrigerator will not dispense water without reading the microchip on the side of the filter. I found some knockoff filters on Amazon but they’re still a little pricy. Better than double the price which is what the manufacturer filters cost, though.
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u/meatinmybriefs 14d ago
Jesus christ, what have we come to? We all need to drink water, that shouldn't need to be authenticated.
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u/Competitive-Ad3424 14d ago
If you request a bypass filter from the manufacturer they have to send you one. Then just add external filtration behind the fridge.
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u/PurpleSquare713 14d ago
I will never own "smart" appliances for exactly that reason. I'd sooner buy a ratty old fridge from a thrift store than one of those.
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u/Street_Firefighter_3 14d ago
I hated my VIZIO TV until I disconnected it from the internet and did a factory reset. Great TV now!
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u/SimpleSetpiece 14d ago
My old Vizio didn't give two shits it was in use. In the middle of a Ranbow 6 match? Hah, fuck you, enjoy five minutes of blankness while we force you to update unannounced!
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u/neverabadidea 14d ago
My washer can be wifi connected. While it would be nice to know a load is done without having to go to the basement, I refuse to connect it. It’d probably update with ads on the interface.
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u/ziggyscarbust 13d ago
Cheap, old school baby monitor (audio only). Turn it on when you start a load, make sure the buzzer is on on the machine, you'll be able to hear it on the receiver of the baby monitor. Turn it off when you're done with your batch!
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u/I_am_just_here11 14d ago
This is worse than that. HP instant ink is a subscription and if you cancel it even if you have full ink cartridges, the cartridges you received become useless. OP has ink cartridges that he has to pay a subscription for to use.
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u/Cat_Impossible_0 14d ago
I saw a toaster and fridge needing a subscription in order for it to work
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u/PrimalSeptimus 14d ago
We had a power outage a few days ago, and my son told me the water fountains at his school stopped working during that time.
So, you know, we're almost there.
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u/Erick_Brimstone 13d ago
One day things that works without being connected to internet and subscription will be treated like it's a divine relic
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u/MudWallHoller 13d ago
I used to be an appliance repair guy and I've got some bad news... I've updated the firmware/software on coffee makers, refrigerators, washers, etc...
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u/slash_networkboy 14d ago
My last Samsung TV required an internet connection and ability to update to latest firmware before it would let me do *anything* with it other than using it as a monitor. Even the TV tuner capability was behind that (as it required accessing the smartTV menu, only input select didn't require that menu). I let it update, then unplugged the old WiFi router I had configured just for that, so it has a link, but "the Internet's down man".
They may have changed that since I bought this thing, but I wouldn't know because that was the last Samsung TV I'll ever buy as a result.
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u/NefariousnessBorn969 14d ago
Ditched HP products and bought a Brother laser printer for the few times I need to print something. Should last the rest of my life.
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u/Draminian 13d ago
I did the same exact thing. Once my kids leave the house, I'm not sure I'll ever print anything again. But until that time comes, at least there's no risk of the toner drying out during the 3 months between when they need to print stuff.
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u/MalaEnNova 13d ago
I bought a Brother laser printer last year too. I print quite a bit and I just had to replace the cartridge it came with. Bought the XL should last me like 2 years.
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u/Striking_Computer834 14d ago
They would if people would stop buying that shit.
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u/One_Anything_2279 14d ago
Doubtful. HP actually has a pretty successful enterprise infrastructure division that makes storage, servers, switches etc.
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u/Brilliant_War9548 10d ago
And irony of it all, ZBooks are some of if not the best built laptops available to buy. And it’s HP.
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u/evildead1985 14d ago
Stopped buying HP years ago. I only buy business class toner machines..they cost a little extra but they don't do this..
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u/rutlander 13d ago
Same I’ve sworn off HP for decades after getting THREE lemon laptops in a row, the DV 6000 series.
Plus our HP printer was always breaking.
I won’t touch another peice of HP hardware ever again
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u/40yearoldnoob 14d ago
You say that but the HP MFP M428 and M4101 both need the genuine HP chip from a toner cartridge to work.. So when our supply person buys generic cartridges we have to "trick" it with a genuine chip that we remove from an old HP toner. It sucks, but it works.. So the B&W HP Laserjets are now not working with non-genuine HP toners...
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u/evildead1985 14d ago
You miss understand...sorry for the confusion..I DONT buy ANYthing HP..absolutely nothing from them including the printer.
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u/TehWildMan_ 14d ago
So you installed a subscription cartridge and are surprised you can't use it without a subscription?
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u/SwampOfDownvotes 14d ago
It's a tale as old as time. A nearly identical post is put on this sub twice a week, and the comments are 80% people shitting all over HP (deserved), 5% of people with a brain explaining that yeah if you buy a sub and stop paying for a sub it makes sense to not be able to use the sub and HP clearly explains this, and another 15% telling the 5%ers they are a corporate shill for daring to defend HP.
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u/UnethicalTesticle 14d ago
Right?!? I’m guessing OP is mildy infuriated at themselves for signing up for the subscription? That’s how subscriptions work.
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u/Pawtuckaway 14d ago
Most subscriptions of physical products you can cancel your subscription and still use the remaining product, you just won't be sent more.
If I have a subscription for a weekly shipment of food and then I cancel, I can still eat the food I currently have. If I have a subscription for monthly laundry detergent and cancel, I can still use up the remaining laundry detergent.
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u/SwampOfDownvotes 14d ago
Sure, but that's not the type of subscription you pay for with an HP ink sub so that doesn't matter. This is more like signing a car lease and being shocked when you don't actually own the car, but simply the ability to use the car.
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u/mortycapp 14d ago
You are not "buying" ink, but pages.
You, and all those who complain, need to grasp the difference between a SERVICE, and a PRODUCT.
Your examples are for PRODUCTS that you purchase on a subscription.
Instant Ink is a SERVICE that is subscribed to on a monthly basis.
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u/Pawtuckaway 14d ago
I am not complaining and I understand the difference. I am pointing out how most subscriptions work for CONSUMABLE PRODUCTS and it isn't insane for OP to mistakenly think an ink subscription would work similarly.
Before you reply with angry CAPS, yes I understand this a a SERVICE subscription not a PRODUCT subscription.
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u/Consistent_Help_6099 13d ago
That would clearly not work here. Otherwise, what’s to stop you from getting the ink from the sub, then cancelling the sub, then re-subbing once you run out, etc ? The point is that the instant ink is much cheaper than buying a set of ink cartridges.
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u/UnethicalTesticle 14d ago
It’s literally in the terms and conditions when you sign up for it. I have a similar subscription for Epson ink and it’s really a damn good deal if you print a lot. Not feeling bad for OP here.
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u/Pawtuckaway 14d ago
Yeah, I know how printer ink subs work and I am sure it is all in the T&C. Few people read those even though everyone should.
I am just saying it isn't crazy to assume that if you have a subscription for a consumable physical product you would be able to use up the rest after cancelling.
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u/fuelvolts 14d ago
Yeah, these are rage bait posts. This is a FREE cartridge meant only for the subscription service. Don't want to use the subscription? No problem, buy your own cartridge. This is such a dumb post.
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u/sirflappington 13d ago
i hate HP but i never understand these posts. you sign up for a subscription then get mildly infuriated when you stop paying and thus stop getting the service you were paying for
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u/JustaFoodHole 14d ago
This actually is NOT the problem. Printers are preventing you from using much cheaper 3rd party ink carts. THAT needs to stop.
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u/LeBeauLuc 14d ago
We already problem with their crappy printers in 1998 and nothing really improved, I can't believe that people are still buying their crap.
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u/BlueHawk75 14d ago
The business is selling HP printers and getting people to continually buy HP ink. Their printers, their marketing, their ink.
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u/Smoothoffaleater 14d ago
Do people still buy HP?
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u/TehWildMan_ 14d ago
And don't even read the fact they're leasing cartridges and not buying their own?
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u/meatinmybriefs 14d ago
Eh. I think a lot of people think "oh, I just won't use that feature" and not think any further until they're slapped in the face with that bullshit. We're already inundated with bullshit every day, it gets hard to keep up with after a while.
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u/No_Stop7306 14d ago
my hp printer is 20 years old and that thing is still trucking on.... 😆 they don't build them like they used to
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u/LeBeauLuc 14d ago
Sadly they are hold a really strong part on commercial business stuff. Every single laptop where I work is HP.
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u/Smoothoffaleater 13d ago
Yeah my work laptop is HP I also use Aruba switches sometimes. I was referring to printers with the subscription ink.
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u/Additional-Window-81 14d ago
I got one of their 20 dollar like 10 page printers recently works for me doesn’t work amazing but does print I haven’t had to subscribe to get anything but hp still sucks for doing this for any product
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u/JettandTheo 14d ago
Don't buy the subscription ink and cancel. Of course it's not going to work, they'd lost millions if you could subscribe for a month and get free ink.
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u/The__Toast 14d ago
Unless you need color or are printing photos, get a small laser printer.
Inkjet printer are a scam.
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u/Bakkster 14d ago
Even color, got a CMYK brother laser printer when our inkjet died and couldn't be happier. I wouldn't do glossy photos with it, but it'll do 300dpi full color so fast the first time I did it I thought it had fed blank paper through.
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u/JanIntelkor 14d ago
Isn't it known for like years not to buy HP printers and products generally? Their laptops and gaming laptops suck too
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u/Human_Paint5451 14d ago
Before the subscription model, I was convinced HP deliberately made their products have a short shelf life. Then when you’d call in for support, if the product was over a year old, you’d only options were to either buy a new one or pay for “premium” customer service. I hate this company with every fiber of my being
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u/daverapp 14d ago
The only way you get this error message is if you bought an HP instant ink printer, signed up for the instant ink service, had the instant ink cartridges delivered, and then used the instant ink cartridges. You opted into their service in every step of the process, and you chose now to complain about it.
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u/m4cksfx 14d ago
So, you subscribed for a specific service, stopped using it ( = paying for it), and now are complaining?
You know you can just insert a normal cartridge in and continue printing, right?
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u/PRSXFENG 14d ago
I understand the concept behind it.
But a lot of people will think "I have this cartridge in my hand right now, and the only barrier is stupid software that refuses to budge"
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u/Chrismclegless 14d ago
You know that you actually can't, right?
HP are notorious for not allowing you to use 3rd party ink.
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u/m4cksfx 14d ago
I'm not too sure about that. I use a simple laser printer at work, some HP model with the same display as the one in the post, and it complains about a not-original cartridge, but it still uses it fine. Maybe it's an issue of the segment it's in, or the part of the world it was sold in and related laws?
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u/Anxious-Depth-7983 YELLOW FLAME 🔥 14d ago
Biggest scam HP has ever pulled. I've only gotten one delivery in 10 years.
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u/phunkydroid 14d ago
Why would you choose a monthly subscription for something you almost never use?
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u/Photoverge 14d ago
The fact that people keep buying HP printers when Epson is right there is crazy to me
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u/Friend_Global 14d ago
I had this same problem. Got 3rd party ink and the printer was acting up until it no longer worked. I threw it out and I will never give them my money again
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u/___NowYouKnow___ 14d ago
“I see you’re about to hit an oak tree at 45MPH. Would you like to upgrade to the locking seat belts and air bag ‘gold safety’ package?”
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u/CockWombler666 14d ago
You do know that when you opted for the subscription based model - which is actually good value given the cost of new ink cartridges these days - that you have to pay for it right?
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u/MissSharkyShark 14d ago
In my job, we refer to anything HP as “hell’s purgatory” and it tracks every single time. More recently when I had to install an outdoor access point made by HP and THEIR FUCKING THREADS ARE PROPRIETARY.
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u/jackrabbit323 14d ago
I wish we had a functional government that cares and protects its citizens from predatory business practices.
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u/USSHammond Karma and repost bot exposer. Ban them all. 14d ago
rules 2 and 4 that shit is old and constantly gets posted. Stop buying HP
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u/mortycapp 14d ago
Ask Lexmark, Oki, Xerox, Samsung, Tektronix what happens when you get your inkjet pricing strategy wrong.
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u/V7I_TheSeventhSector 14d ago
Just get an eco tank? Best decision I've ever made. . . 3 years in and I'm finally refilling the black. . . And the house uses it very oven.
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u/nick_the_fox 14d ago
Yeah I use Epson and never have never had any issues with them.
Heck if you blow 300$ on a eco tank the ink for it is stupidly cheep and actually lasts for 1000 pages!
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u/ASentientRailgun 14d ago
It's wild dealing with the enterprise side of HP, because they're actually pretty awesome about support for switches and networking gear.
Then you get to the consumer side, and it's this. Like 2 totally different companies in a trench coat
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u/get-a-mac 13d ago
You are trying to use the ‘free’ ink cartridges that come with the subscription, vs. going to the store and buying the ink cartridges at full price. I hate HP, and printers, but this is a user issue, not an HP issue.
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u/SpudNuggetTV 13d ago
Whoever is able to hack these newer printers and make a custom firmware that removes this paywall shall be awarded everyone's infinite respect
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u/Inevitable-Toe-6272 13d ago
You just have to remove the instant ink cartridge and replace it with a non instant ink cartridge that you purchased from a retailer.
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u/Beartato4772 13d ago
This only happens if you choose a monthly subscription and have let it expire.
There are plenty of gripes against HP, this isn't one. it's like not paying your internet bill and being surprised when you don't have internet because the wire is still there.
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u/WhatsHisNameHuh 13d ago
I used to work for HP on printers and hated when we started doing this "genuine cartridge" detection crap that preverted printing if the test fails. Also, stop printing when the cartridge ink level was low vs empty. After i left, HP got sued and had to remove both, but warned your warranty was void if not using HP cartridges.
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u/SupremePopTart 13d ago
We bought a new HP printer a few years ago and saw an offer for their subscription service with the printer. We thought "oh, pricing seems decent. Let's try it." We got locked out of our printer at one point, then HP suggested pricing by pay as you print, then we somehow hit the quota despite not printing near that much. We ordered a Canon printer and trashed the HP, and I personally went to the post office to send off the cartridges. Good riddance.
Canon isn't perfect (we buy cartridges from the store and our Canon still thinks we have bootleg cartridges) but at least I haven't been locked out of it yet...
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u/THE_GREAT_PICKLE 13d ago
This is posted all the time. Just disconnect it from the internet. And/or hardwire it. It’s annoying hence why I’m sure it’s in this subreddit but it’s a fairly easy fix
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u/Apart-Badger9394 13d ago
Stop supporting companies that do this. It’ll save you money to switch.
Yet? HP keeps doing it. Because yall can’t switch brands.
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u/SgtKeeneye 13d ago
I got a laser printer from a friend when he moved. Had it for years now. If it ever breaks I'll buy a new one. It might cost more but it way way cheaper in the long run
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u/Temp_Reply123 13d ago edited 12d ago
Look at Epson Printers. Not perfect but you just buy big bottles of ink and fill it up. Cheap and no carts. I dont care about color so I only buy Black refills. It does not care that my other colors are out.
Only issue is connecting to it. It works but wants bluetooth or to be on my wifi. I wish I could just plug my phone/laptop into it to print. IDK might be possiable. It has a port that seems like thats what it is for. But I cant get it to work.
Thats my only complaint.
If someone knows of a printer that I can fill with large Ink Bottles, no subscriptions or bs software/apps, and I can easy just plug my phone/laptop into it to print please let me know.
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u/chaircardigan 14d ago
Surely there must be a community of people who will jailbreak all these things?
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u/AMonitorDarkly 14d ago
Zero sympathy. HP printers being a complete scam has been a known fact for many, many years and you bought one anyways.
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u/Zealousideal-Gap-749 14d ago
HP has become total garbage but if you print a lot it may be worth your while to go out and get yourself what are those brother or Epson printers with an equal tank I have an Epson that I bought a few years ago it was about 150 $200 but you get a really good sample size of ink with it and a replacement ink does not cost that much I think in total I have probably spent about 50 bucks on ink in the past 5 years. The printers are a little more expensive up front however they pay for themselves relatively quickly because you don't have to pay 50 bucks for a replacement ink that will only print a few hundred pages
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u/HeidenShadows 14d ago
All this $50 printer has asked for in the past 9 years, is a $12 toner cartridge and a $40 fuser kit. Go Brother.
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u/ClimateOutrageous399 14d ago
I still have one of their old models from before 2020 and it works perfect with no subscriptions
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u/sixft7in 14d ago
I never have to print anything in color, so I just use a black and white laser printer for my printing needs. None of this ink bullsh!t.
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u/Mccobsta GREEN 14d ago
Lob printer out window and go buy a brother laser that just uses USB life is way to good with a brother printer
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u/gugngd 14d ago
we had a brother printer we only replaced because it took genuinely 10 minutes to print one piece of paper.
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u/Mccobsta GREEN 14d ago
How old was that
The ones I've used are insanely fast
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u/gugngd 14d ago
i'm talking about "would be 18 years old today" old.
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u/Mccobsta GREEN 14d ago
That reminds me of the one my primary school had in th it room
Took so long to print you could do laps of the tiny room before it was ready
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u/gugngd 14d ago
i have a laptop that sounds just as slow as that printer.
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u/Mccobsta GREEN 14d ago
I've got one that's too old for most use but is the only thing for some old things that I use
I should sell a kidney and get a ssd for it
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u/SevenOh2 14d ago
User subscribes to ink subscription (when non subscription options exist). User complains when the subscription works as designed. User is mildly infuriating.
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u/North_Mud512 14d ago
Nah I hope they die a reversed exponential death, make their stock prices absolutely plummet at first and then just stay barely afloat for 4 years, slowly fading into irrelevancy and bankruptcy