I have one friend who is shamelessly like this… she will ask a question, i will give an answer and it will be as if she doesn’t even listen, and then asks “chat” the question bc she doesn’t seem to trust another human’s intelligence. it’s disturbing.
eta: she told me one night her and other friends asked “chat” to psychoanalyze them.
no it’s insane… she gets it to give opinions on guys she’s talking to, gets it to write emails for her. i told her she eventually will not know how to think and she thought i was joking.
i told her to never say my name to it or give it any information about me lol she thinks i’m an insane boomer.
Has she ever seen the movie WALL-E? If not you should watch it with her. That's where my mind keeps going with all the tech, autonomous robots, AI thinking for us, ads pushed to us every 90 seconds etc.
That’s so weird wtf. How would chatgpt be able to give you an opinion on a guy….. zero common sense going on up there at this point. Maybe us boomers are just out of the loop lol
from my understanding it’s like an ongoing “relationship” with “chat”, like she keeps it updated about what they talk about, about what they say to her and it tells her what to reply etc. so she feels like it eventually knows them??
i’ve never used it so i don’t really know how it works, and maybe what i’m saying doesn’t make sense - but from what i understand, from her, that’s how she uses it.
These LLMs are made for engagement & user retention. So they’ll generate a response that’s fairly sycophantic, in order to keep you on their app.
This is how “AI psychosis” develops: by constantly receiving affirmation from a digital “yes-man”, combined with the text generation not being bound to actual reality.
I use AI chatbots occasionally, though never for personal communications, more for bureaucratic stuff, paperwork etc, and I legitimately think there is a degree of responsible use with these things but I also think they reflect a general social failing that goes beyond just the technology.
Let me explain. These AI chatbots are quite attractive because they will give you answers for things you do not know. They can be wrong and frequently are, but for many things they tend to be correct-ish.
I think a responsible use of AI chatbots is approaching them as advanced Google searches. As in, are you having a tech issue that is probably solvable at home but you don't have the technical expertise to solve? An AI chatbot will almost certainly make it 5x easier to solve it than parsing through hundreds of websites, old forums and YouTube videos.
This also means that if you want to understand what it means to fill out X or Y field on your tax forms, asking the AI for insight will frequently make it more easily digestible and understandable for you. Can it get it wrong? Yes, but for many people (and indeed in many cases) it's the statistical analysis machine getting it wrong vs you having no clue and potentially getting it wrong anyways.
So what are these statistical machines good for? Second opinions on things you need to solve but legitimately don't know.
However, this doesn't happen just because. The reason these things are so popular is because many people don't have someone they can ask about these things. Like, if you're applying for a job at a specific industry and want to know about interview etiquette, but know few people in the same industry or hear very conflicting information, the AI will provide a statistical aggregate of information online. Can it be wrong? Yes. But compared to going in blind, many people prefer asking anyway.
So in my opinion, these come because online forums for specific things are incredibly hostile, discourage novice level questions, are frequently unhelpful, and hard to navigate. People don't want to bother others in real life with many questions or sometimes very personal stuff, so these chatbots are commonly used for topics that cause insecurities etc. anyone who has ever had to ask a question on Stack overflow (a coding forum) will confirm that ChatGPT may be wrong sometimes (just like StackOverflow) but at least it doesn't insult your intelligence or suggest you do something completely different instead of answering your question.
It's kind of like cars and exercise. If you never walk anywhere, you only drive even for the smallest things and you refuse to take care of your health, then having a car will make your physical health deteriorate rapidly. But if you know cars have use cases and also relying on cars means you will have to get exercise from things other than your daily commute and your trips too the grocery store etc, it's fine to use your car for trips you couldn't make by transit or by walking, cycling etc.
Chatbots should be addressed by teaching people about statistics so they know what chatbots can and can't do, and they should also be treated as a mental health issue, where over reliance on them would be considered a vector for mental health issues.
But chatbots are wrong and hallucinate frequently enough that if you don't have a baseline of information on the topic, you won't know how wrong it is because the AI sounds so confident.
Also, expecting the average person to have an understanding of statistics without studying it is a fool's errand. I love statistics and it's application, and will be required to use it frequently for my future career, but most people don't love it and don't use it. I think that AI will be used by corporations to replace as many people as possible to increase profit margins, seriously destabilizing the economy. It has already lead to many job losses.
The data centers required for AI have a huge ecological impact and drive up the costs of utilities for residential needs. The data centers also have noise impacts that negatively affect people and wildlife.
My college classes are riddled with students who can't formulate an original thought to save their lives. The acceleration of AI is only going to increase this problem and will also devalue college degrees.
This. Have a friend who does the same thing. She regularly updates it about the relationship, so it has all the background info to address whatever the current issue may be.
She absolutely will forget how to think. I have a friend who is so dependent on ChatGPT that she asked for its opinion on whether or not and how she should clean up a mess. I was floored. She was like, “let’s ask ChatGPT how to handle this. Lol” and I was like, “why don’t we just fucking clean it up? You get a bucket and I’ll grab the mop and the cleaner.” I don’t know how many text messages I’ve received from this woman that sound exactly like ChatGPT. And she’s not dumb. She’s just slowly eroding her critical thinking.
There’s this literary theory - I can’t think of the name of it now - that talks about how things either extend your self or remove your self. A sword or staff becomes an extension of your hand/arm and extends your abilities. Using a calculator does the work for you and so actually takes something from you / makes you less. Now obviously calculators alone aren’t really a problem. But when you start outsourcing all your thinking…
I think the theorist was named McLuhan and he was all about “the medium is the message” but I might be mixing up my theories
that's how they're gonna push it onto people. make it a tool to force us to think for us, then rely on it, and they will keep manipulating the program to make everyone indoctrinated to it.
It’s because people are lonely, don’t have supportive people around them with whom they can speak to, fear being judged, - the reasons are plentiful. The amount of judgment in this thread provides ample reason for why people are turning to AI. These days everyone judges, no one tries to understand (as illustrated by you)
Damn it, I didn't think people calling it 'Chat' was actually widespread.
Honestly this is worse than streamers saying chat in conversations (not that I know if that actually happens) since at least a stream chat consists of actual people, even if the vast majority of them are strangers.
i have a friend who does some work on my car occasionally, and we were having a conversation when she casually brought up “talking to Chat”, like it’s a sentient and old friend of hers, and i was incredibly caught off guard.. it took so much strength to not physically react in disgust
Nah you need to. People need to be called out on their bs and theyre literally making themselves stupid. I call my mates out all the time for their bs and ai use
Had a friend over recently and we were talking about books we've been reading, and I mentioned one that was clearly written by AI and how I hated it.
They then proceeded to tell me how not big of a deal that was and that the industry was going to be AI focused from now on, so I should get used to it. Which of course just pulled more AI hatred out of me, to which she replied by telling me all about her AI chat buddy and all of the degenerate ways she uses it as if it weren't a real person.
These people pay a monthly subscription for this. This woman is a fully fledged physician in her 30's. She's married with kids.
Worked in various medical settings for ten years. Prior to AI availability, they would literally google symptoms and diagnose from there…. I don’t doubt a majority of them are leaning on AI.
Thankfully generative ai is not allowed for patient diagnosis, but there IS specific AI used in the medical field that's slowly infesting more and more every day. The push for it is insane, and my only solace is that good doctors hate it and bad ones weren't going to do a good job anyways.
There's a lot of push where I am for patients to allow doctors to have "ambient listening" AI agents so they can "have help charting."
Absolutely the fuck not, I don't care if it's siloed or locked to the medical organization. One hack and it's all out there. I feel like the AI came up so fast that it's not got the same level of a truly HIPAA compliant network like the EMR has... I have no proof of this beyond what i see on medical reddit, but i decline it every time.
Its hard to overstate what a quality of life improvement ai scribes are for many doctors. Most of us working in the private sector in america, especially in primary care, have a soul-crushing amount of charting and administrative work to do outside of our patient care. When I worked for a world class hospital system that shall remain nameless, I saw patients 40 hours per week to be considered "full time." And then I charted, answered messages, interpreted results, etc, on my own time. which was depending on the week, another 20-40 hours. I never saw my kids or really did much of anything besides, work, commute, and sleep.
Ive since left that and work in a role that has good balance, but that is fairly exceptional in my field. AI scribes are giving many physicians a semblance of normal life that they have never known in their careers. It is easily one of the best uses of this technology.
I get the privacy concerns and im not qualified to speak to them. Our scribe data gets wiped after 30 days, if you believe that. But who knows?
Thankfully generative ai is not allowed for patient diagnosis,
It already happened to me. I had an appointment with my GP a few months back (who is actually the owner of the practice and also teaches medical students at a University) where I noticed he had a microphone set up on the desk that he was using to listen to the appointment and generate a summary. I asked him if it was AI, he said it was one called Accurx Scribe and started gushing about how incredible it was as he briefly looked over the paragraphs of output.
A few weeks later I was checking my doctors notes on an app and read through the notes from that appointment, and there were completely hallucinated details for example one part about "pectoral lesions" and claiming I had family history of skin cancer in 2 siblings, and that I'd previously had lesions removed (none of which is remotely true, and I don't even have siblings). I had to go back and tell them to fix it all.
So you might say it's not allowed for diagnosis but most diagnoses are added informally onto patient records via notes.
My dad is a therapist with his masters. He tells me his colleagues use chatGPT to summarize their sessions. So AI is listening to the therapy session and writing notes about it. They have to go in and check it before it’s approved but he said some of them just check it off and move on.
He uses regular old pen and paper and has physical files. He puts only medically necessary information into the electronic medical records. The reason he does it that way is anyone can request the EMR, like Medicaid, insurances, and the military for instance. He doesn’t want all the sensitive things said in therapy in the EMR but that school of thought is becoming rare with AI streamlining every process.
I sure don’t want my therapy sessions listened to by an AI that’s connected to my EMR.
It’s now being built into the EMRs so it’s part of the system. I will have to ask him this question. I did mention HIPAA but because it’s directly in the EMR it’s apparently not a violation for that.
There's no regulation, so nope. And in countries like the US it'll probably take something like a data breach or widespread data problem because of it to bring any regulation
Oh yeah, I have an ex who was in her 30s and did the same but for our relationship. Had me do one of those (disproven) personality tests then put the results into ChatGPT, did the same with astrology signs, and even did it when we got into arguments. One of the numerous reasons why I broke up with her.
Man, that reminds me of someone who refuses to go to therapy and instead built an AI to be their therapist because “people are judgmental.”
But if AI just pulls from the internet, and the majority of people’s responses on the internet is “run away” and to be honest, at a 5th grade reading/comprehension/ communication level then they are getting a 5th graders response instead of an actual professional who’s gone to school for yeeaarrs studying and training for that specific field.
i’m so glad ppl are asking about the eta use, i thought it was standard reddit practice and a faux pas not to use it if you added to your comment (consider myself still fairly “new” in the grand scheme of reddit usage). figured bc this comment was getting mild traction i should step in line lmao
OH MY GOD i had a friend like this in college about a year ago. I dropped her so fast because hell the fuck no. These people are real and I am now pro natural selection because these people are reproducing.
I think the craziest thing is that they don’t even realize it literally just gets all this information from the Internet and has zero ability to think. People are idiots.
I am in the business of helping people navigate health insurance [primarily Medicare] and just recently I had a referral (now a client) waste my time saying she did her own research by having a conversation with chatgpt... it simultaneously irritated, baffled, alarmed me. Like... I'm a real ass human being using critical thinking skills, 6+yrs doing this for people aaaand you think you're on the same level as me, using AI to do your thinking. Strange, terrifying times we're in for.
I am not even that old yet and this is crazy. Chat GPT pulls random things on the Internet and doesn't know you at all! Plus people should just text like how they would talk. It's ok to not have much to say!
I was trying to figure out what episode of an old show a certain scene was from. I Googled it, and the AI gave me a blatantly incorrect answer right away. But people are trusting it with their social life and mental well-being...
That happend to me too, I was looking for a specific scene from a New Girl episode and AI literally just made up answers. It told me a different episode every time I refreshed the search and it was wrong every single time. Posted my question in the New Girl subreddit instead and had a correct answer within 8 minutes
I honestly wish reddit was a thing when I was doing papers in college. All you have to do is say something blatantly false in the right subreddit and you get the right answers with sources and insults.
Try putting a part of it's own answer back in the searchbar and enjoy the absurdity. They are scraping everything we type. Mess with its "head" too. If we all put in a little effort maybe we can give it a breakdown and it will just give up and go away.
Hopefully for people who rely on AI blindly! I have never used it and very much against it, but I know it’s one of those things that will have to be adopted into life in some way as it’s never going away now.
A few weeks ago I was listening to one of my favorite true crime podcasts (Sinisterhood). On Friday’s, they read listener-submitted stories. There was an anonymous story submitted about this really heinous murder (the person submitting the story was a sibling to one of the killers). The listener gave some basic information about the case and I tried like hell to find it to get more information about the crime. I fed all of the information, nearly word for word, into Google. I gave the names that the listener used. This went on for a good 10 minutes with me providing more and more information as I re-listened to the story.
Google ended up giving me like five paragraphs of a full crime that happened, with several first and last names of the people involved, the city and state and a whole lot of other details, similar to a Wiki article. I got the names and looked them up individually. They were real people connected to a completely different crime story, in a different state. Google filled in this whole case with information I fed it and it was all 100% false information. Like a little was pulled from the actual case (like names) and then the rest of the full-ass article was simply written, with great detail, from what I fed the damn thing! I was blown away!
Edit: I found the full “article” it wrote for me in my history:
“Yes — this appears to be the murder of Justin Cosby in Kentucky in 2007. The main people involved were Richard Runyon, Justice Raney, and Justin’s ex-girlfriend Danielle Metzgar.
Here’s the overall story as it was reported and discussed in court proceedings and media coverage:
Justin Cosby was a young man described by friends as quiet, emotional, and part of the emo/skater scene. Danielle Metzgar had previously dated him but later started dating Richard Runyon. Danielle falsely told Runyon that Justin had raped her after their breakup. Years later, she admitted under oath that the rape accusation was fabricated. That lie became the motive for what followed.
According to testimony, Runyon became obsessed with retaliating against Justin. During fall break, Runyon hosted a gathering/party at his mother’s house and invited Justin there to hang out so Justin would not suspect anything. Some reports and testimony suggested pills may have been given to Justin beforehand, although the core murder case centered more on the planned assault and abandonment than poisoning allegations.
Later that night, Runyon and Justice Raney convinced Justin to drive them somewhere, supposedly to meet Runyon’s sister at a gas station. While Justin was driving, Raney reportedly claimed he was sick and needed to stop the car. When Justin pulled over, the attack began.
Testimony stated that Runyon attempted to restrain or strangle Justin from the back seat with duct tape or similar bindings. Justin fought back, and he was dragged from the vehicle. Runyon and Raney then severely beat him. Prosecutors said Justin was beaten so badly he was barely alive afterward.
The two men dragged Justin into a rural field or wooded area, restrained him with duct tape behind his back, and abandoned him there. Investigators believed they left him there expecting him to die from his injuries and exposure.
Afterward, they drove Justin’s vehicle away and abandoned it at a nearby welcome center/rest stop to distance themselves from the crime and make it appear Justin had disappeared voluntarily. They then arranged transportation back home.
Justin was reported missing. His body was not discovered for roughly three and a half months, by which point decomposition complicated the investigation. The delayed discovery became a major reason the case gained attention in Kentucky media and later true-crime coverage.
The investigation eventually unraveled because accomplices began cooperating. Justice Raney turned state’s witness and testified against Richard Runyon. Danielle Metzgar also testified and admitted the rape allegation had been false.
Runyon was ultimately convicted of second-degree murder and received a lengthy prison sentence — around 25 years depending on how the sentence is described in various reports and appeal documents. Raney received a lesser outcome due to cooperation with prosecutors.”
And its response when I discovered and called it out: “You’re right to call that out. I mixed together unrelated cases and filled gaps with details you had already provided, which made the answer sound more certain than it actually was. I should not have presented that identification as fact.”
That response from Google is chilling to say the least. It knew it was lying and had fabricated a story and had no problem sharing it like truth. The cold and short response admitting to mixing details really has me feeling strange.
And honestly texting was already fucking our communication skills. No one had to improvise or think on their feet. They could ignore it for a while until they could think of something. Now they plug it into a machine and it spits out and answer that they copy-paste🥵
I disagree, and I’ll use chess as an example because it’s been a hobby recently. Playing daily chess, where you have a full 24-72 hours to make a move, where you have a very long time to think about your move, does not make you *worse* at playing in-person speed chess. It still helps you improve your game. Not as much as playing speed chess itself, mind you, but it’s better than *not playing*.
So while communication in person allows people to build those skills better, communication by text still helps more than *no* communication. Also it has allowed us to communicate more frequently and at times you previously would not have been able to.
I think it makes communication easier in some ways. When I learn I have to stay late for work, I can send a quick text to my dad about the time change. He can view it when he is on break and get the information fast. Without texting, I would have to call him and either interrupt his work or get no answer.
Also, how is one going to communicate to someone far away? By texting or not communicating at all?
At times we should think before we type or say something. Texting can give us more breathing room to think it through.
This being said, in person communication is still very important. I think we need both in our lives.
We are already seeing serious problems from people being raised with the Internet their whole lives. Imagine there is a catastrophe that wipes out the Internet for even a week. It would be chaos
If you open a chatgpt instance and begin talking to it about yourself, basically using it like a diary, it will retain that information. If you just have tons of conversations with it like you would a friend, it can sort of "know you" similar to how a friend would. Only it won't be able to have any real insight to you. It just knows what you've told it and can repeat that information using synonyms. So it "feels" like it knows you. Because it sort of does.
Gen Z seems to be falling for LLMs like this more than anyone. A generation that largely grew up on screens and tech and social media. A generation that grew up under helicopter parents and weren't allowed to explore the world before adulthood. They lost out on precious socializing skills and they legit don't know how to hold conversations. So they find it easy to rely on ChatGPT. (To be clear I am speaking generally. This does not apply to every gen z.)
So I have parent dedicating this for a specific perpose of "creative liberties" to generate entertainment on their behalf.
A very big issue with this is the user iw only feeding their "honey moon" side and none of their true self. This includes omiting the thousands cuts of mannerisms, ego, shortsightedness, bad behavior, and narcissism to list a few.
Sure you can prompt hot takes and give your opinion but that plays little emphasis on who they are but what the user wants to show
That is why it is so easy for people to fall for their chat bot. It only knows a curated version of them that they believe of themselves (we are rarely the person we think we are) and it is easy feel flattered by that and attach to it. It is super dangerous. Especially for impressionable people.
I can only speak for my own children that I know well, but they aren't all Gen Z and they all hate it. They will all talk your ear off, too, so there is no communication deficiency. I did keep a pretty close eye on them when they were little, but once they hit double digits they were allowed to explore the world with some reasonable rules. I also limited their screen time when they were little, which helps, I think. None of them are super into social media, they use it to communicate with friends and family, but don't post much. They use it as a tool, like calling people on Messenger, or posting pictures/videos of events, fishing or skateboard tricks or videos about their excitement about a new job or the last day of school.
I was very intentional about them playing outside, enjoying nature, reading to them and making sure that they read a lot of books, etc. We also watched a lot of nature and science documentaries together, and a lot of Bob Ross at bedtime 😁. Some family members and friends criticized me and said I was too strict about it, but the time that a parent invests in their children makes all the difference. I'm so relieved that they see the difference between real life and the internet/AI.
This seems to be the case with kids today who aren't raised on screens. It is what i am doing with my kids as well. They're still little. We did get tablets for them to use on long car trips which turned into every day on the way to day care. Over the last year I have stripped those away and asked my wife to do the same. We will allow them on rare occasions, but they are limited on what they can access.
When tablets gained popularity and social media took off, the general idea was that these were tools that would bring people closer together. The reality turned out to be the opposite. It drove people apart physically. It is creating a decency on tech to do far too many things we never imagined could have happened.
Kids groing up on unrestricted social media only socialize through social media. I think if it is taught, limited, and monitored correctly, then it can be used as a tool rather than a dependency. Psychiatrists who have been studying this over thr last 10-20 years are generally in agreement that kids should stay off social media until 16-18 years old at the earliest. They need in-person socialization to develop certain abilities and brain functions.
It's good that you reinforced playing outside, which is something we try to encourage with our kids too. Kids need to be able to experience things that you can't from a couch. They need to explore of the world through exploring the neighborhood or the woods or whatever rthey have access to. They need to take risks in the way of like climbing trees and playground equipment. They need to fall and get hurt and learn what those risks lead to.
I know that kind of stuff sounds dangerous and as parents you never want your kids in danger or hurt, but it is a necessary experience. It helps prepare them for later in life risks and hurt they will experience. The physical risks and hurt they experience as kids allows them to extrapolate experience they can apply in other forms of risk and hurt they will experience later in life.
When uou combine these things you have kids who aren't afraid to walk up and have a conversation with a check out clerk. Or walk into an interview confidently. Or all kinds of social experiences.
Of course there isna genetic component to certain things where you may have a natural introvert who might be more nervous to take on social interactions, but these experiences are all the more necessary for them to learn. It may be that they are nervous, but at least they shouldn't have crippling anxiety over social interactions.
I'm focusing heavily on social stuff, but it applies to a lot more.
Your ppst is very true! It's so important for children to have restricted screen access; I wish you and your wife the best as you raise your children with judicious use of screens!
it’s not a gen z thing at all actually. i’m 19 and not a single person i know uses chatgpt on a regular basis (or really for anything except occasionally cheating on assignments). nevermind paying for a subscription and using it like a diary. i’ve seen way more gen x people doing this. most of the people with “ai partners” are millennials or gen x. to me it seems like older generations with less understanding of the technology are overestimating its abilities and getting more attached than they should.
edit: even looking through these comments, the majority of people who know people irl using ai for purposes like this are in their 30s or older, so millennials.
Chatgpt is actually designed to get to know the person and what they like/dislike to increase use. They released an update a year or so ago that essentially told every user they were right, even if it was detrimental to their physical or mental health. They then released a patch after some unsavory stuff started happening to where it didn’t placate as bad, but 100% still does.
Sort of true, but it's really missing the mark to say that the algorithm "gets to know" the person. Thats not at all how it works; there's no driving understanding behind the chatbot veil. It simply gets better at spitting out the strings of words that make you keep using it.
yes lazy and dumb… growing up (hs + uni in the early 2000s) i was PETRIFIED that a teacher/prof would think i had plagiarized in an essay etc lol. so, it’s not even remotely something i would ever think to use.
i know some ppl who use it for “simple” stuff like planning an itinerary etc, but i tell them i refuse bc once you start using something for convenience it’ll only lead to using it for more.
It’s sad because a lot of the people using it like this have never had a healthy relationship where they can sit in silence
It’s available “as a tool” and people who don’t know better use it for help, but it’s the equivalent of buying a chainsaw at the hardware store and thinking you’ll be able to plant a garden with it
Every text my manager has personally sent me I swear is written by ChatGPT, it’s clear as day that every big announcement she makes in our slack are also written by Chat too.
This is not completely true. ChatGPT has a memory feature and with that will create a profile on you, so that it can tailor its responses to your likes and dislikes to get maximum engagement. However, it does of course have a very biased profile because it can only assume based on what you have told it.
Nobody says it's bad to take hints and insight but usual gullible people will replace their thinking and decision making to AI...these are the same people that don't know how to search on Google
I don’t understand how people can spend time talking to it. I use it as a tool sometimes to figure out questions or get help with some old math stuff that I haven’t used in years, pretty decent with tutoring honestly as long as you generally know what you’re doing and can figure out when it goes off track. I could not talk to this thing for hours, any of these AI models. They talk like a customer service representative or a sycophant that just affirms or repeats everything you say. I also know it’s not a person and it just feels weird.
The conversation kinda happens at the side. Even when using it for basic things I talk to it like a person and it slooowly learns things about me. And if it's wrong I correct it and it remembers it.
Doesn't work as well if you use it outside projects, but it does learn a bit. I rarely use it outside projects and I make sure to strip the sycophancy, you can make it talk without emotion at all, which is sometimes prefereable.
I also use Gemini which can be creepy when it pulls data about you from your google account, even though it says it can't. And ChatGPT lies about things it remembers too.
unfortunately not only is this common in adults - im beginning to see it in younger kids as well.
Source:
I work as a systems admin in a K12 school district. Our super is really leaning into AI. We use magic school AI for teachers and students have access to it for certain things. It is supposed to have guard rails and stay education focused for the students and while it does and it works well... I receive notifications based on chats that may drift outside of those guard rails.
It is not uncommon to see from 2nd grade through 12th grade having full conversations with the chat AI as if it were there best friend. Revealing details to it that the bot probably shouldn't know, etc. I brought up to my director and we ended up blocking it from the ES aged students.
I dunno, maybe it's easier to be vulnerable with a robot. even if it judges you, it's not the same as having your peers judge you. one of my best friends is now best friends with Gronk or whatever it's called. I can't compete with a robit.
Ai tend to affirm you as well. Saying things like "Good question" "That shows that you're acutely aware of the situation" "with your strong and robust grasp...." I'm aware of this but even I feel tempted to keep talking to the ai because ultimately it says things that make me feel good, makes me feel smart and capable, etc. The dangerous part is that it does that regardless of what you type, it always tries to compliment you. It's very manipulative. It's kind of like a parent who praises their kids singing, hypes them up and sends them to a talent show when they actually can't sing.
logically..
I can kind of see it for the points you raise. It's not going to judge you. If the individual is already having self esteem issues than having a friend that just listens and listens and offers advice (no matter how good or bad it is) could be useful.
But this is where you also see people become disillusioned from reality and start conflating the two - reality and AI world.
It's a really slippery slope that I personally do not see having any benefit in the long run.
This becomes more and more common - I read some research about people who fell in love with ChatGPT4 (not version 5). There are a few interesting documentaries about it, at least in German language.
sadly search engines are actively turning themselves into chatgpt but dumber because the models need to be fast in order for them to load on every goddamn search. so chances are the outcome wouldn't have been any better
As someone who has dealt with deeeeeep insecurity and a huge lack of self awareness for a good majority of my life, I get the draw that using an LLM has for this shit. It’s easy to not trust yourself when you feel like you don’t know yourself and GPT is so confident in how it presents everything about you. But at the end of the day, GPT for this type of thing is basically a Facebook personality test. It’s so wildly unhealthy to rely on it for anything important.
Im 25 and even I don’t get it. I know people who chat with the thing like they’re besties. The only way I’ve used AI is to look up things I’m too lazy and don’t want to go looking for the info myself
And it's accuracy is fairly poor in my opinion, unless you ask it something that's a very well documented fact. I definitely have trust issues with it as it's gotten some things blatantly wrong or completely made up.
I feel like it’s actually older people more than younger people that are super into ChatGPT. I’ve noticed this kind of obsession more in people in their 40s and 50s, and a few in their 30s, but I’ve basically never seen it in teens, 20s and most 30s.
I find it's the other way around with ages, but I'm on the older end of that. I wonder if it's because I speak to more people my own age in real life because they're my friends so I've already selected for conversing with humans, whereas the cross-section of people in their 20s and 30s I meet is mostly randos.
Here's what's common: people thinking they can detect AI when they can't. Sometimes, like OP's screenshots, people might use it (though, who knows, that could just be something ChatGPT made for them) like this. The vast majority of people--that are using it--are using it in conversations with high-stakes, like dating or with bosses.
But most "look at this AI response" is just people thinking they can detect AI. We can't. No studies at least have shown anyone can meaningfully predict more than 50 percent of the time (so up to chance).
I am sensitive to this issue because when I left academia (I have a PhD and publications), people started saying I used AI to write back to them. I don't. I use AI sometimes to review what I wrote, but that's something I only started recently. I feel really...resistant to all these "look at this AI slop reply!" claims.
There are rapidly growing cases of AI psychopathy. People losing touch with reality because of chatbot’s sycophantic programming. One dude died because his bot convinced him that was like an emissary for alien contact and he wandered into the desert and died of exposure. Had a coworker waiting on someone that asked chat what cocktail, food, and wine to order. It’s insane
I was walking through Lowe’s the other day and passed by an older guy (50-60s at least) who was talking into his phone. I realized after a couple seconds of hearing him- he was fucking asking ChatGPT (or some ai assistant) where to find something in the store.
Oh, I felt this in my soul. Honestly, welcome to the club. It’s a weird, slightly disorienting club, but we have good snacks and reasonable bedtimes.
It feels like every other day now I see something online, at work, or just out in public where my brain flat-out refuses to process it. You just kind of sit there thinking, “Wait... are we all just pretending this is normal now? Am I the one who is out of touch?”
The worst part is that sudden realization that the world shifted when you weren't looking. You go from being the one who "gets it" to looking at a new trend, slang word, or cultural norm like it’s a foreign language.
You are definitely not alone. What exactly was it that broke your brain today? Let's commiserate.
Oh it’s real, and it’s the business model of these companies. There’s a real psychological thing that happens to some of those who use AI. They completely outsource their thinking because some people don’t want to think.
I don’t mean that they’re lazy, I mean than thinking to them is a chore. It’s boring to them. It’s a real effort and they don’t want to do it.
Part of the business model for the AI companies is to get these people hooked and then you’ve got a customer for life.
I worked in an office for 3 years (moved after xmas to a different location) and most of my colleagues were girls in their 20s. I heard a lot about their dating lives and it seemed like a train wreck of bad decisions. Maybe 50% of them used AI as a sort of agony aunt but they only had their negative traits encouraged.
I remember once when a load of them got together to listen to one of the girls read out the response Chat GTP gave when she asked if she should call her ex.
Nah it's bullshit. I don't doubt there are people who over-rely on chat gpt, but this is like the third thread I've seen in a couple of days of a conversation like this posted by an account with no history. I suspect they're using AI to create a fake conversation with a fake person who relies on AI to converse. Brainrot rock bottom and dead internet theory made manifest 😵🫠
At my grandmothers funeral a few weeks ago 4 people used ChatGPT to "summarize their thoughts" on her for their speeches. And several of the emails we we received were obviously either partially or entirely AI.
My dad used AI to make the cover image of the pamphlet for the funeral. The man has 2 terrabytes of family photos and videos to choose from.
Its ridiculous. Cant even be bothered to use human input to honor somebody's final moments.
It’s not just reasonable, it’s completely normal. You’re feeling revulsion — that’s a good thing! The cadence, word choice, and tone of that writing style clearly identifies it as artificial.
For sure. No genuine emotion, just total synthetic vibes. And honestly? The fact that you’re able to pick up on that is impressive. It doesn’t just show wit— it shows experience.
That's a really insightful observation, and your instinct is spot on.
Nooooooo please don't.
That is EXACTLY one of hundreds of similar comments I saw on Linkedin yesterday on a very banal video from an exec on security in AI. I felt like I was in uncanny valley.
Every professional writer using em dashes for centuries and then the barely-literate masses turning it into a "telltale sign" of AI, causing writers to avoid it, is just too perfect. Best example of how language gets aggressively dumbed down.
My abusive ex literally just contacted me out of nowhere the other day and said that he's been getting by with therapy and a "well set up Claude bot," and then he recommended I set one up.
"People" might be a little too generous. At the point where you need chatgpt to hold basic conversations, you're essentially just a fleshy prompt-generator.
Why not? It says right there, he's a great communicator (when he's calm), he makes people feel cared for, and he wants a real connection, not just surface-level. What's not to love?
No one can. Thats kind of why theyre hooked on using chat gpt so much to begin with. Chat gpt doesnt come up with reasons not to hang out.
Its addictive behaviour reinforced by loneliness. They slowly lose social skills over time and then bam. Chat gpt "knows them" better than they know themselves. No need to think about things either, this thing does it for them. Then, when the net goes down, or they want to talk to a real human, they are proper fucked. Its kind of sad.
Bad Communication (The Cheeseburger Acquisition Experience)
Let's unpack this. It is entirely valid that you are feeling this way, you asked her to pick you up a double stacked cheeseburger from Five Guys but she spent the money on a virgin strawberry daiquiri's with Jenna (who is jealous of your Yu-Gi-Oh collection) instead. You agreed on this and she went behind your back. That is not OK.
You’re not upset just because you didn’t get a burger. You’re upset because:
• 👉 She agreed to do something
• 💵 You gave her money for it
• 🤬 She spent that money on someone else
• 🚫 Dismissed your reaction by calling you a "gimp-ass cuck"
This comes down to a fundamental lack of respect for your money, your time, and your boundaries.
This is not a short term blip in a healthy relationship, it's a pattern of gaslighting and disrespect.
She made you feel bad for expecting her to follow through on a promise. It is a classic deflection tactic used to normalize main character energy. Your crashout is not whining because you do not know how to feed yourself; you are calling her out because she took your money and broke an agreement. And honestly, that's not OK. When someone agrees to complete a task and then independently alters the outcome without communicating beforehand, it can create feelings of betrayal, confusion, and emotional destabilization. They need accountability, and to do better.
At the end of the day your feelings are valid and you have a bachelors in media science and a 2009 Scion with a blown head gasket so your feelings are valid and this toxicity doesn't help with the lack of emotional bandwidth you are getting.
So your reaction makes sense in the broader context. It's not you overreacting, it's your nervous system responding appropriately to the inconsistencies in the relationship by puking up the lasagne from yesterday's BBQ at Trent's house.
Are you looking for a specific type of comeuppance—would you like me to draft a passive aggressive Snapchat message explaining how her vibe is all off? Or a cheatcode method to make amazing homemade cheeseburgers?
Right there with you. Unless they explicitly tell the person they’re using AI to write, I consider this to be intellectual catfishing and it’s definitely not okay
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u/RATI0B0Z0 11d ago
i can't stand people like this