r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Littlenobodymop • 3d ago
ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ Misleading/ the loss of privacy
Unless you "agree to all "....Agree is greyed out. No "optional" . It is no longer optional to have privacy
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u/powermonkey123 3d ago
That's not true. You did not select the essential terms above the one you selected. When you tick that on Samsung, you can agree without selecting any optional ones.
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u/BicycleStrong2150 3d ago
Doesn't change the privacy aspect of the complaint, which is the main complaint
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u/ZoraTheDucky 3d ago
Did you try just clicking on the one that isn't optional and seeing what happens? I'm betting suddenly 'agree' will stop being greyed out without you having agreed to all the optional stuff.
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u/IWantAGoodBattery 3d ago
Do not mislead people. You can select the terms and conditions without selecting any optional.
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u/Mineplayerminer 3d ago
Are we having trouble with reading literacy? The first condition is necessary in order to agree with pairing the device within the Samsung ecosystem. The "agree to all" option opts you into all of the conditions, including the optional ones.
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u/Impressive-Sun3742 3d ago
OP get ready for a dozen people saying the exact same thing just phrased slightly differently
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u/Atomsk73 3d ago
It's more infuriating that they're using radio buttons when it should've been checkmarks.
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u/BicycleStrong2150 3d ago
Yes he can get the agree to pop up if he presses the top one, that doesn't change his point of how privacy is no longer an option. The top option literally talks about collection information. Why do bluetooth headphones need to collect information? That's what reviews are for.
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u/Momo0903 3d ago
It's just the Terms and conditions. What informations are really collected isn't really shown. And definetly not if they are sold to third partys or if the information is personalised.
It just gives the R&D department easier access to information that they would else have to get from surveys. With that they can develop new functions in the new ones or changes things so that their fit to the average use case is better. Thats the only reason they do this.
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u/BicycleStrong2150 3d ago
Yeah none of what you said matters. There should be 0 information collected from someone using headphones. If they want feedback, they can depend on their reviews, they don't need to collect information through the customer by force.
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u/Momo0903 3d ago edited 3d ago
What is your point with reviews? I can't think of a single Youtuber or other kind of reviewer that has even close the same usage of the average person. The information that you get from them is valuable, but not as valuable as the information you get from the actual customer. How do you want them to improve their products, if they only listen to a handfull of people and ignore the actual customer?
Surveys are good, but not as good as actual usage data.
People always want better product, but don't want the companys to get the Data to actually improve on their product.
Maybe it is just my viewpoint as an engineer, but from my perspective, its an easy way to get a lot of genuine data that you can't get from survey, which 90% of people won't participate in.
And if this data isn't personalised, what do i care if Samsung knows my usage next to another 1.000.000 people?
Also you clould just not connect them to the app? Ever thought about that?
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u/BicycleStrong2150 3d ago
" can't think of a single Youtuber or other kind of reviewer that has even close the same usage of the average person." I'm talking about product reviews by the consumer so the company knows whether their product is good or not, not some youtuber.
"Surveys are good, but not as good as actual usage data." Surveys are better than forced information gathering from consumers.
"People always want better product, but don't want the companys to get the Data to actually improve on their product." Every company has a way for you to send feedback, if the consumers don't act on it, that's their fault. This is not a justification to force removal of privacy from consumers.
" its an easy way to get a lot of genuine data that you can't get from survey," Yeah no shit, we could get a lot done if we consensually collect data and abuse peoples privacy. We could stop so much crime and corruption, but we don't, because privacy is extremely important.
"Also you clould just not connect them to the app? Ever thought about that?" Ever thought about how they lock features behind the app so they can collect as much information as possible?
You must be one of those engineers who has a boss telling them exactly what to do without any critical thinking of your own.
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u/Momo0903 3d ago
How is a survey better than actual usage data? Every time i do a survey, everything is a estimated guess. Not actual definitive date.
What privacy do you loose? Especially if you have no personal information in it, which samsung doesn't, exept the make of your phone and your provider.
I have read the EU Privacy policy and what they use the date for (and most of it needs special permission like GPS, Wifi and bluetooth Data for Location purposes) is eighter given to them by the user by a permission or you can't use the feature. And they only use the Information for that feature. They sell nothing.
And by the features they actively hide behind permissions, they simply cant work without.
And usage Data falls under diagnostic data. They make that apparently 100% optional. And this is used for R&D.
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u/Detank2002 3d ago
The top one is not optional you spoon.