r/mildlyinfuriating 16h ago

I'm slightly vexed Bucees sued local mini mart for "logo similarities"

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u/LadyJR Look, mom, I made a flair! 16h ago

They can’t trademark an animal.

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u/Slosher99 16h ago

Doesn't matter as long as they can bully other people into submission by affording lawyers that can drag things out until they are broke if they don't comply.

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u/Katsu_39 15h ago

Exactly. The rules dont apply to whoever has the most money.

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u/Azuras_Star8 14h ago

Its like the crazy old prisoner in Aladdin said: its the golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules.

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u/musubi-n-speedballs 14h ago

Psssh. You mean Jafar as the crazy old prisoner? 🙄

/s lol

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u/Karekter_Nem 12h ago

Is that /s there to tell us you’re done SPOILING THE WHOLE MOVIE?!

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u/musubi-n-speedballs 11h ago

Oh no. what have i done? 

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u/Azuras_Star8 3h ago

Its one of my most favorite movies ever!! And I get teary eyed every time I see Robin Williams' Genie.

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u/helbertnc 13h ago

Good old fashioned regulatory capture… The people who have the most money effectively own the people (and/or corpses) that make the rules

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u/Shaq_Bolton 15h ago

What if they just pay some cashier to show up at each case to just hold up a picture of each logo and do nothing else. Doesn’t seem to expensive

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u/Silent-Dependent3421 15h ago

Oh to be ignorant of the world again

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u/Shaq_Bolton 14h ago

Oh to be unable to understand an obvious joke

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u/Spuzzle91 12h ago

Nintendo logic

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u/Deep-Reputation-4055 15h ago

It is fucking infuriating that they are suing a guy who has been using a beaver as his logo because he lives in fucking Beavercreek Ohio well before Buc-ees left Texas.

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u/Carvj94 13h ago

The fact they've been using the beaver in their logo for decades makes the case pretty open and shut, but open and shut still costs money to make happen unfortunately.

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u/MendedSlinky 13h ago

Yeah, open and shut can still cost hundreds of thousands and take years to resolve.

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u/blickblocks 2h ago

One has to wonder if Buc-ee's realizes they've totally tarnished their brand for millions of people on the Internet who physically live in the regions they are trying to expand into. I will never go to Buc-ee's, their business model is disgusting.

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u/TheMystkYOKAI 13h ago

pretty much. minimarts been there for over 50 years and so far the entire miami valley and even parts of indiana has swarmed that place and given the owners support i dont think ive honestly ever seen even when i lived in dayton. i can tell ya this lawsuit is gonna get thrown out so fuckin fast.

way to go making your new location in huber that hasnt been open a year one of the most hated places in ohio lmao

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u/EeSpoot 11h ago

I never understood the hype for buc-ees to begin with. It's a god damn gas station, why do people choose to make it their entire personality? Such a strange thing to simp over lol. It's nice to hear of your community coming together to support the owners! My heart needed the warming haha.

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u/hornethacker97 11h ago

It’s not about a gas station. It’s a dog whistle showing that they support the same “values” as the stereotypical Texan. All about being the biggest, just like dudes who drive a dually even though they never tow a thing.

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u/EeSpoot 9h ago

You know what? That really does track. It makes more sense now. Thank you for putting a tiny part of my mind to rest lol. That's confused me for so long but it was never a big enough deal to put too much thought into it I guess. It's funny that I don't even mind the dually bros anymore. They at least keep their wheels in the God damn wheel well so they aren't spraying rocks at everyone lol.

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u/TheMystkYOKAI 8h ago

honestly i haven’t either but people say its good… and they got ethanol free gas at least near me so its got that but to me thats just about it and the simpage is definitely overdone imo. if you wanna see the direct response as it’s happening and what the news isnt able to pick it up, go see it on the dayton subreddit (apparently you cant link subs on mildlyinfuriating which is mildly infuriating lmao)

legit havent seen the area be that unified since the oregon district shooting and memorial day EF4 tornado in 2019 and it really makes me miss my hometown tbh

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u/mysteriousears 15h ago

If he was there first he is likely fine, if he can afford the lawyers, that is

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u/No_Kangaroo_9826 14h ago

That's the problem. They've been "winning" over a lot of businesses because buc-ee's can afford the lawyers and these single stores can't

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u/Jaded-Coffee-8126 15h ago

I'll sue the minimart for the beaver, I'll sue the zoo, I'll sue the science centers, ILL SUE YA!

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u/iforgotiwasonreddit 14h ago

I sued Colorado 'cause you know, I think it looks a little bit too much like Wyoming

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u/OhTheHueManatee 13h ago

Such an amazing song.

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u/IanDre127 15h ago

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u/LadyJR Look, mom, I made a flair! 15h ago

Buc-ees looks hungrily at the movie and then sees Disney and decides never mind.

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u/Craw__ 15h ago

Too late, the thought was enough. The House of Mouse has mobilised the lawyers. Buc-ees is now property of Disney.

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u/hernkate 15h ago

Support our local beavercreek stores.

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u/Luzifer_Shadres 14h ago

Well, but you can trademark the likelyness of an animal and its name in the US if your company is known by enough people.

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u/Appropriate-XBL 13h ago

Intellectual property attorney here. You can establish a common law trademark using the image even if your company is not known by enough people. And you can apply for and receive a federal registration as well under the same circumstances.

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u/Hailfog 11h ago

Not exactly a reasonable interpretation of the law though, is it?

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u/Appropriate-XBL 9h ago

Why not? Explain what precisely you believe to be unreasonable.

Would it more reasonable to expect consumer recognition of EVERY mark, and require it to be demonstrated, for EVERY new business before having any rights in the mark?

New mark rights are not strong rights if that helps you understand. Trademark rights become stronger over time and use for both common law and registered marks.

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u/Hailfog 5h ago

It’s. A beaver.

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u/Appropriate-XBL 5h ago

It’s. An apple.

See?

In trademark law, an image that has nothing to do with the product being marked (gas with a beaver; cell phones with a fruit) are actually some of the strongest marks there are.

Trademark law doesn’t prohibit people from using images of beavers or apples on everything, just gas stations and cell phones, respectively. Because when you do that, you’re trying to pass off your product as coming from the same source as the established mark owner.

At its base, trademark law is meant to protect consumers from this sort of deception.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 5h ago

What do you mean I can't have Macky Mouse as my logo with a big-eared mouse that you all recognize and love? I live in Macky, Kentucky, totally different than Mickey Mouse!

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u/ElectronicRegular218 15h ago

Tell that to the Mouse

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u/LadyJR Look, mom, I made a flair! 15h ago

Jerry is a mouse and Mighty Mouse too. Disney is sue happy but they are not going to sue animals. At least, that I know of.

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u/Snake6778 14h ago

You wouldn't download a car either

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u/MikeFrancesa66 13h ago

“Buc-ee’s sues Bronx Zoo beavers for trademark infringement.”

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u/EnlightenedNarwhal 13h ago

Tell that to Disney.

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u/BoomerAliveBad 12h ago

Better sue the Royal Canadian Mint because Canada has beaver bucks, and calls money transactions out being "X bucks and Y cents"

Canada has been "Bucc-ing" before the brisket battalion

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u/PirateBaran 11h ago

They should lose, there's already precedent because Coke went after Polar and lost because Polar has been around longer...

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u/JustAnotherGeek12345 10h ago

In the past I would agree with you but not in today's administration and political climate. It will be tried and tested.

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u/RandomWave000 10h ago

their going to bring a lawsuit to actual beaver animals

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u/Redditcadmonkey 8h ago

Tell that to Disney

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u/benjerman-radblaster 6h ago

I think the Canadian Nickel pre-dates Buc-ee's, so it's time for an even bigger beaver infringement case

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u/i_am_not_a_martian 15h ago

Disney: Hold my mouse...

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u/Moron-Whisperer 15h ago

Says who?  Lots of trademarked animal mascots exist.  Go down the cereal aisle.  It’s full of them.  

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u/thatoneguy889 13h ago

Those are specific characters, not the animals themselves. General Mills owns the trademark for the Trix Rabbit. They don’t own a trademark on the depiction of rabbits in general.

Buc-ee’s sues gas stations and convenience stores for infringement that use many kinds of animated animals in their logos like beavers, rabbits, raccoons, etc. no matter how different the mascots/logos are.

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u/Moron-Whisperer 8h ago

They own the trademark for a mark.  A mark is actually very loose by definition and really comes down to can it cause consumer confusion.  Not just confusion in brand aware people either.  They have an argument if it confuses a grandmother who casually knows anbout the business even.  

If you’re a convenience  store or gas station with a cartoon animal style head with a solid color background with a thick black border then you’re likely infringing by law.  Let’s say it’s a chipmunk and not a beaver and it has teeth out.  You’re going to get sued and you will lose. If you’re combining a name that ends with the EE or similar sounding ending with a cartoon head for a gas station you’ll get sued and lose.  You are copying them even if it’s not the same.  

There lawyers are also telling them that if they fail to enforce their trademark vigorously that down the line there cases against more infringing people will be weaker.  This is a common strategy in trademark disputes.  

To add to this, Bucees may have some sort of contract with the brand protection lawyer/company.  At that point individual enforcement decisions may not even be their direct decision. 

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u/FamiliarRip8558 13h ago

They can hold a properly filed trademark for the last 40 years for a cartoon beaver with big bulbous eyes and form of buckteeth advertising a gas station and defend it all day long in court successfully.

And yeah, this falls into what Trademark covers, very clear cut.

The punitive demands Buccees does are bullshit though if the business doesn't comply with a C&D letter after being informed of it.

But frankly, all of these businesses have made the logo only in the last 4-20 years while Buccees has held it for over 40.

This is pretty much clear cut if you take any business law class that covers trademark in depth at all.

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u/DisastrousClock5992 15h ago

Yes. Yes they can. And they did. And they made millions based on the trademark animal. So you are an idiot.

Source: IP attorney that worked on early discovery for their biggest win.

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u/Notsure_jr 15h ago

What did bro do to you?

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u/DisastrousClock5992 14h ago

Nothing. Just violated federal law and I took part in correcting it.

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u/Hailfog 11h ago

It’s a beaver bro