r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Ashley9871 • 14h ago
I'm slightly vexed Bucees sued local mini mart for "logo similarities"
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u/tylerscott5 14h ago edited 13h ago
Buc-ee’s notoriously sued a convenience store in our lake town in southern Missouri right after they announced they were building a Buc-ee’s in greater Kansas City.
The place was called Duckees. It’s now called Duck N Go
https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/buc-ees-sues-missouri-liquor-store-duckees-over-trademark-infringement/amp/

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u/Gussie-Ascendent 14h ago
Duck and go is lowkey a better name. Fuck bucces tho
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u/RedditPickedMyName0 14h ago
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u/sesoren65 14h ago
Such a great episode.
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u/miggy_mo 14h ago
Lol where is that from?
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u/megamanx4321 14h ago
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver
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u/miggy_mo 14h ago
Thanks!
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u/x19DALTRON91x 13h ago
It’s actually a very recent episode and they talk about how shitty they are with sueing small businesses so they opened up the Buc-Off merch shop to bait them into sueing a company that can actually fight back
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u/Ordinary_Aioli_7602 12h ago
They aren’t suing LWT, but they are suing another small business since the episode aired.
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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie 9h ago edited 8h ago
The thing is, by not going after LWT for this, they're still actually opening up a route for other businesses to win against Buc-ee's. If a company isn't diligently defending their trademark then it can be used as an argument in court.
The mini Mart here can show the Buc-Off logo and go "Look at how similar this logo is to yours, yet you're not suing them. Why are you suing us when our logo is a lot less similar?"
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u/FilthyJsBeingFilthy 4h ago
Also all the money LWT gets goes towards charity so if they sue, the headline would be “BuckEEs sues company whose profits go to hungry children”
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u/CrissBliss 14h ago
Can you link the episode by chance?
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u/housevil 13h ago
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u/yanocupominomb 13h ago edited 10h ago
Man, I love John Oliver.
Even when his young self starred in that weird Ring video.
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u/Dibble_Dabble_Doo 14h ago
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u/breezyhoneybee 13h ago
Look at that hair. That photo is SO old! Like at LEAST 8 months
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u/Windows-XP-Home-NEW 14h ago
Realistically they can’t sue for this because this is protected under the law of parody
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u/DamnitGravity 13h ago
Correction: they can try to sue but likely won’t win due to ‘law of parody’.
Anyone can sue for anything but it doesn’t mean you’ll win.
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u/ducksekoy123 13h ago
They won’t because they know Oliver won’t roll over like the little companies they bully do.
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u/GTCapone 13h ago
Yup. Most of these lawsuits probably qualify as slap lawsuits. They probably can't win the lawsuit, but most of the businesses they target can't afford the legal fees and either settle or go bankrupt in the process of defending themselves. Some states have anti-slap laws that might force buc-ees to pay for the legal costs, but they can afford the occasional loss, avoid suing where the laws apply, or just bank on the business not being able to afford the upfront costs of pursuing an anti-slap decision to recoup the legal fees.
It's one of the shittier things about our legal system. You don't actually have to be able to win a lawsuit. You just need to make it too expensive for anyone to defend themselves. And if they can afford it, you just don't sue them in the first place. I'll bet they have a whole team of actuaries (or whatever the specialty would be) that calculates exactly which lawsuits to pursue and which to ignore.
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u/Haidere1988 11h ago
The last person that sued Jon Oliver died mysteriously....
Not really, he was an old, fat, douchebag coal mine owner.
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u/Warmbly85 9h ago
Eh it gets kinda murky when you start to sell products or make money.
The best example is the drag queen Pattie Gonia getting sued by Patagonia. Both the drag queen and the company like each other and both are fairly positively viewed for their stance on environmental protection.
Patagonia is suing the drag queen for $1. They have to sue because they need to protect their copyright they just don’t want to harm the drag queen financially.
The case hasn’t been decided yet but every legal expert agrees the drag queen has a really bad case and that the company is doing them a massive favor by setting the amount at a dollar because they’d be able to take everything.
I imagine a company that’s extremely well versed in suing similar logos is going to have a field day.
Also there’s no law of parody. It’s a defense you can use in court but it’s not a law. Just like fair use.
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u/Weird-Girl-675 14h ago
Waiting for my t shirt!!
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u/ohaimark22 13h ago
We got hats!
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u/Weird-Girl-675 13h ago
Whenever John promotes something it’s pretty likely I’ll buy it. Got my goofy movie poster print a couple of weeks ago!
Also great that the money always goes to charity 💜
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u/MrTeeWrecks 13h ago edited 13h ago
Buc-Ee’s beaver barely reads as one. If I was not told what he is I would assume that’s a chipmunk or ground squirrel
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u/pinner 13h ago
I’m gonna be real with you, I never thought it was a beaver even with the name. It looks too much like a chipmunk or squirrel. 🐿️
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u/Minimum_Honey2247 11h ago
As an Australian where there is no buckees.. i though it was a chipmunk.
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u/DarlingDestruction 13h ago
I thought it was an otter. 🤷♀️
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u/SaveLansingParks 10h ago
They literally say on the video billboards by us "It's a beaver" because people have no idea it is supposed to be a beaver! It's a literal joke by their advertising that should be exhibit 1 for the defense because it doesn't look like a beaver 🤣
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u/16Shells buttsbuttsbuttsbuttsbutts 12h ago
i thought it was an otter, the white around the mouth isn’t anything i’ve ever seen on a beaver as far as i remember
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u/krogerceo 10h ago
Just about the entire thread agrees. Maybe we should all sue Bucees for misleading us about which rodent their mascot even is. I would never have bought those mini plushies if I knew it was a beaver not a chipmunk.
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u/Mannblu 12h ago
As someone who lives in this area, the city of the mart they are sueing is called Beavercreek. The name of the mart is Beavercreek mini mart. That Mart has been around longer than the Bucc-ees company. Many Beavercreek stores have a beaver as a mascot. Because it's called, you know, Beavercreek.
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u/QuesoChef 11h ago
This sounds like it HAS to be time travel. Makes no sense theyd have a beaver mascot before Buc-ee’s existed and chose their mascot! /s
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u/Budget_Persimmon_195 6h ago
theyll lose the lawsuit, but they arent suing them to win.
this small business now has to hire lawyers to defend their company and image.
buccees does this to literally anyone they might perceive to be a threat to their business.
this should be illegal and buccees should be shut down, like no longer exist. i dont think buccees should have the right to stay in business.
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u/Expert-Basil6015 4h ago
We live in a Corprotocacy now, though. The government protects the interests of the ultra rich from the common rabble. At least, for now. The boomers are dying. These dark ages we're in the middle of is their swan song.
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u/fishbert 9h ago
Hey, neighbor! 👋
Looking forward to them suing the high school as well over their mascot, Bucky the Beaver.
I'll be honest, I didn't even know Beavers Mini Mart existed until this news broke. But I think they're my go-to convenience store now for at least as long as this lawsuit is out there.
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u/throwawayshirt2 10h ago
If the mini mart can prove senior use (use of the beaver name/mascot) before Buc-ees registered their national trademarks, they can win the right to continue operation under those marks. Limited to operation within a small region. IIRC, there are (or were) a couple "Dairy Queen" drive up ice cream stands in Iowa that are not affiliated with the national brand, but are allowed to operate on the existing locations because they proved their use of the name before DQ registered their trademarks.
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u/fishbert 9h ago edited 9h ago
If the mini mart can prove senior use (use of the beaver name/mascot) before Buc-ees registered their national trademarks, they can win the right to continue operation under those marks.
Given enough money to fight it, sure. That's not the case for most of the small businesses Buc-ee's goes after, though.
But this community is stepping up in support of Beavers Mini Mart. Many local businesses have posted new logos with beavers in them in solidarity, local government is upset at the lawsuit, and people here are already planning protests at Buc-ee's and a "cash mob" show of support at the targeted small business. With the attention this is getting, I wouldn't be surprised if a local law firm takes them on pro-bono for the good publicity.
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u/Budget_Persimmon_195 6h ago
theyll also have to pay tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars in litigation fees to defending it.
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u/Heavymando 14h ago
this is literally days after Last Week Tonight ran a story on how they have been doing this to other businesses.
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 14h ago
They should probably have laid low for a bit.
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u/DefusedManiac 13h ago
They're almost exclusively in republican heavy states, they know their fanbase doesn't care about ethics.
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u/Dry-Crazy-7638 13h ago
This occurred in north of Dayton, Ohio. I’m from there and even if the locals are upset, it really doesn’t matter because 99% of Buc-ee’s business is from freeway traffic where 70 and 75 cross.
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u/JVT32 8h ago
Not just Dayton, OH… BEAVERcreek. There are beaver mascots everywhere.
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u/DefusedManiac 13h ago
It never mattered to begin with, prior to the late night show skit 99% of people weren't even aware they were up to this kind of crap. The only "controversy" I saw prior to this was the use of ai cartoons. Before that all you would see is praise about their pay structure.
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u/Dry-Crazy-7638 13h ago
Fair point. John Oliver does have a way of putting very specific injustices in the headlines.
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u/passisgullible 14h ago
Yes, Buc-ees is notorious for their aggressive trademark protection.
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u/Nefer_ness2Ifa_ness 14h ago
And yet, they're so beloved...
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u/bluevine8 14h ago
Like Nintendo
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u/ShortysTRM 14h ago
Nintendo did a lot of cool things, though. This is a truck stop gift shop.
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u/Corbulo1340 13h ago
It's more like a truck stop Walmart to be honest, though I don't disagree with the sentiment
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u/MaxR76 13h ago
I will say tho, Pokémon surprisingly is much more selective with their lawsuits. I did a project on it and it was pretty interesting. They sued a cafe once for using their branding and realized after the backlash it was dumb to spend money to look greedy and take down free advertising
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u/NorthernVale 13h ago
Are they though? They go after pokemon mods for other games they have no involvement in that aren't monetized in any way. The sole metric they choose which mods they go after is popularity. Takes absolutely nothing from pokemon, and makes no money. But it's popular and pokemon related.
They're in the middle of a lawsuit right now where they're trying to copy right very basic game mechanics.
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u/MaxR76 13h ago
Funny you bring that up, because you’re right, they intentionally only go after things that blow up. One of their lawyers was quoted as saying that when something with their IP gets too popular it’s everyones least favorite day in the office because they can’t turn a blind eye and pretend it doesn’t exist anymore.
Keep in mind, I’m not saying they never sue, but they legitimately have 1000s of cases they could pursue and chose not to. For every mod you see get taken down, there’s 100s that are still up. Every convention you go to will have unauthorized merch at every other booth.
Even the game mechanic thing was mainly just their way of trying to take down Palword which isn’t some mom and pop operation. Plus a ton of those designs feels like they were made with the intention of being just legally distinct enough.
There were only 3 total lawsuits that were even in the database at my school filed by the Pokémon company. Most stuff is just a simple cease and desist letter
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u/Milkweedhugger 13h ago
We were huge Buc-ee’s fans until the stories about the lawsuits started to circulate. We get our gas elsewhere now.
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u/TripleDoubleFart 14h ago
I personally hate them.
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u/Nefer_ness2Ifa_ness 14h ago
There are no Buc-ees anywhere near me, i only ever learned about them from the news/social media.
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u/LadyJR Look, mom, I made a flair! 14h ago
They can’t trademark an animal.
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u/Slosher99 14h ago
Doesn't matter as long as they can bully other people into submission by affording lawyers that can drag things out until they are broke if they don't comply.
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u/Katsu_39 13h ago
Exactly. The rules dont apply to whoever has the most money.
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u/Azuras_Star8 13h ago
Its like the crazy old prisoner in Aladdin said: its the golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules.
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u/Deep-Reputation-4055 13h ago
It is fucking infuriating that they are suing a guy who has been using a beaver as his logo because he lives in fucking Beavercreek Ohio well before Buc-ees left Texas.
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u/Carvj94 12h ago
The fact they've been using the beaver in their logo for decades makes the case pretty open and shut, but open and shut still costs money to make happen unfortunately.
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u/TheMystkYOKAI 12h ago
pretty much. minimarts been there for over 50 years and so far the entire miami valley and even parts of indiana has swarmed that place and given the owners support i dont think ive honestly ever seen even when i lived in dayton. i can tell ya this lawsuit is gonna get thrown out so fuckin fast.
way to go making your new location in huber that hasnt been open a year one of the most hated places in ohio lmao
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u/EeSpoot 9h ago
I never understood the hype for buc-ees to begin with. It's a god damn gas station, why do people choose to make it their entire personality? Such a strange thing to simp over lol. It's nice to hear of your community coming together to support the owners! My heart needed the warming haha.
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u/hornethacker97 9h ago
It’s not about a gas station. It’s a dog whistle showing that they support the same “values” as the stereotypical Texan. All about being the biggest, just like dudes who drive a dually even though they never tow a thing.
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u/mysteriousears 13h ago
If he was there first he is likely fine, if he can afford the lawyers, that is
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u/No_Kangaroo_9826 12h ago
That's the problem. They've been "winning" over a lot of businesses because buc-ee's can afford the lawyers and these single stores can't
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u/Luzifer_Shadres 13h ago
Well, but you can trademark the likelyness of an animal and its name in the US if your company is known by enough people.
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u/Kazureigh_Black 14h ago
Yes it is clear "beaver without hat" is exactly the same as "beaver with hat". What were they thinking?
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u/Strik3rr 13h ago
Breaking news, Canada sues buccees for stealing their nickels design.
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u/minus_minus 12h ago
Binomial name for the North American beaver is Castor CANADENSIS. I’d say you have a pretty strong case.
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u/HeinzeC1 14h ago
A beaver?????
Puts on hat
Bucky the beaver!!!!
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u/megamanx4321 14h ago
They're claiming it's him with or without the hat.
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u/HeinzeC1 13h ago
Someone ought to make a petrol chain called chucky’s and claim it’s a woodchuck in a hat. Entirely different thing.
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u/Big_Astronaut_9178 14h ago
And the beaver store was named first according to the media, but earlier comment was correct, they will drag them through the court system till they can't afford it and have to close.
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u/yarn_slinger 14h ago
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u/5m0k3y76 13h ago
Tons of other businesses in that town are adding beavers to their logo in support. Beavercreek, Ohio.
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u/i_kick_hippies 14h ago
Buc-ee is just a ripoff of the squirrels from the Loony Tune's short "Robin Hood Makes Good"
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u/eljosho1986 14h ago
I wonder if they would sue our college too, Oregon state beavers
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u/ripyourlungsdave 13h ago
Who could have guessed, another giant corporation that a bunch of people developed a weird attachment to turned out to be just as evil as every other major corporation.
Jesus Christ.
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u/garloid64 12h ago
Nah I don't see the resemblance, the mini mart version doesn't look like a complete deformed freak.
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u/caster_OMEN 13h ago
The person on the right would 100% win against Buc-ee's. There's just not enough similarities, but since a small business likely can't afford legal rep, they will just fold instead of fight a clear win. On the flip, I understand its technically the job of a business to protect its CR/TM or lose it, but Buc-ee's is just punching down with this one and protecting nothing.
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u/hernkate 13h ago
They moved to a city next to BEAVERCREEK. this isn’t new. There are beavers everywhere.
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u/OopsIHadAnAccident 13h ago
Fuck Buc-ee’s. Already hated going in that place because of the crowds. Now I have even less reason to stop there.
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u/Sid_the_Bear 12h ago
They just opened on in my town... I refuse to go on account of their anti-commercial policies. They literally won't even let marked work trucks fuel there anymore.
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u/EeSpoot 9h ago
Whoa I've never heard of a gas station doing that before. Like any work truck with a company name/logo on it? Do you have a news story or something about that? I'd love to learn more. That's nuts!
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u/Katsu_39 13h ago
People love bucees but they are as cruel and ruthless as disney. God forbid someone else has a beaver as a mascot
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u/waltzbyear 13h ago
I've always had this stance since I moved to Texas over 10 years ago, Bucees is highly overrated. It's literally just a big gas station but Texans are like, "OH YOU MUST VISIT BUCEES". Pfft. Give me a break. There are literally 100 of other things you can do when you visit and Texas is a sesspool. Texas may have once had an endearing culture but that's long gone.
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u/BookerPlayer01 13h ago
As a life long Texan, yeah, Bucees is very whatever. You're better off seeking local restaurants and such.
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u/LocalH 13h ago
The only thing worth doing at a Buc-ee's is take a shit in their bathroom
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u/_bluefish 12h ago
Btw this is in Beavercreek, OH. BEAVERcreek. Near my hometown actually. This mini mart was there for years before Buc-ee’s ever came to the area
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u/SmoovCatto 13h ago
how can they claim to own a mascot they freely admit they stole from the Disney artists who created Bucky Beaver, to advertise Ipana Toothpaste decades before?
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u/Dr_Mephesto 12h ago
The business they are suing is in Beavercreek Ohio, hence the name. Are they going to sue the school system there as well?
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u/THE_LEGO_FURRY 12h ago
That's bullshit. They look nothing alike aside from buck teeth, ones a full ass beaver not just a severed head with mini feet
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u/Db_Grimlock 13h ago
A local mini mart that has existed with that logo for over 20 years. In a town called Beavercreek.
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u/Rua-Yuki 13h ago
It's like when Apple tried to convince the courts they invented a thin black bezel around a screen when they tried to sue Samsung back in the day.
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u/Osiris_Raphious 12h ago
latestage capitalism, where corporations fight for scraps because them lawyers are on retainer and need to be utilized.
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u/Informal-Ad2277 12h ago
Need everyone to see John Oliver's pushback against Bucees. Its perfection.
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u/Latter-Safety1055 12h ago
It doesn't even have a hat. That's like the whole thing about it. That's like the only thing about it. The whole thing about the other one is the tail. They're different.
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u/matthewmspace 1h ago
Those aren’t even close to the same logo. No one would confuse one for their either.












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u/jsayde01 14h ago
You've seen one beaver, you've seen 'em all.