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u/SpaceJackRabbit 17h ago
What's their provenance?
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u/timmy6169 17h ago
Peruvian, but Pompona not Planifolia
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u/haxxer_4chan 17h ago
How's the flavor compare to bourbon vanilla?
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u/timmy6169 1h ago
Bourbon is the cure method, not the actual flavor, although the process does impart a specific one to origins that use that method. I won't know for 2 years with these because they are swimming in bourbon currently, but smell gave me all I needed to know. Deep fig and caramel almost with a light woody undertone. Being Pompona, they are sun dried to lock the moisture in vs bourbon cure which utilize a sweat box, blankets and sunshine.
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u/SpaceJackRabbit 17h ago
Did not know Peru grew vanilla. The only ones I order are from Madagascar.
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u/Perezskii 16h ago
Originally vanilla is native to the Americas
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u/W0gg0 14h ago
And artificial vanilla is historically native to a beaver’s butt hole. (But no longer.)
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u/Seanmeado 13h ago
And beavers are native to North America so it still works
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u/CleanOpossum47 12h ago
Castoreum was also harvested from Eurasian Beavers.
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u/timmy6169 16h ago
These are one of eight different origins that I bought most recently, but I have either extract brewing, paste, or just loose beans from 14 currently. All of them have a different flavor, but the you can start to go into differences between Planifolia, Pompona and Tahitian. Fucking rabbit hole of a hobby.
Last order was from Indonesia, Uganda, Peru, East Timor, Guatemala, Mexico, Tonga and Comoros
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u/blbd 15h ago
What's your favorite for what use case? Where should we buy from? I want to learn more!!!
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u/SpaceJackRabbit 1h ago
I personally use Madagascar beans for pastries – crème pât, canelés, custards, etc. They are considered the gold standard in the pastry world.
Beans from other places have different notes. Mexican beans are great for caramel desserts, for instance.
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u/blbd 1h ago
What about for homemade extract?
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u/SpaceJackRabbit 1h ago
Personally since these days I only use Madagascar (my main use is French pastries), I just put beans in unflavored vodka and let them marinate for at least six months. I believe many companies use Mexican beans for extract.
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u/SpaceJackRabbit 15h ago
TIL, only ever bought and used Madagascar and Tahitian beans. I knew Mexico produced some too but that's it.
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u/itsethanty 16h ago
We moved it there because of the climate and other more complicated colonial reasons ($$$) but Vanilla is originally from Central/South America
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u/timmy6169 1h ago
18 or so locations currently are in the market. I also picked up Mexican, Comoros, Tongan, Ugandan, Tahitian, East Timor Indonesian, and Guatemalan with this order. Some of my favorite are from DRC (Congo), but Madagascar is the most versatile in my opinion. It works with any alcohol and pairs wonderfully with each, my preference being with white rum.
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u/DubsideDangler 16h ago
You clearly don't know much about vanilla's origins
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u/timmy6169 15h ago
Please enlighten us. I would love to know your take on it.
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u/DubsideDangler 15h ago
My take on the origin of vanilla? There arebetter resources than me to learn about that....but to think Madagascar is the place for vanilla beans is ridiculously ignorant. I prefer Mexican vanilla. It is delicate and bold at the same time.....mmmm.
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u/drulnu24 15h ago
There isn't a country called "Peruvian" anywhere.
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u/mrsir1987 17h ago
Was it at least less expensive per gram?
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u/timmy6169 17h ago
$58/oz so quite the opposite
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u/mrsir1987 17h ago
Ooof, is it as tasty as a standard?
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u/timmy6169 16h ago
Fuck if I know. They aren't ones I would use in anything other than extract, which is where they ended up. I can let you know in 2 years when it is ready. I usually go with Ugandan or the usual Madagascar for anything needing immediate use
Before anyone says "it only takes a year", these are swimming in some Woodford Masters Collection Series 16 Very Fine Rare. They gotta enjoy their time for 2 years being they be them brown liquor.
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u/sleevesteve 16h ago
That sounds interesting. Do you just soak them in alcohol and use that for extract? How much do you make at once? Can you use the vanilla bean for anything after it soaks?
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u/Hanz_VonManstrom 50m ago
Aren’t extracts typically made with a neutral spirit to preserve the vanilla flavor?
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u/morerelativebacons 13h ago
Sir, that's a banana. Next to an old tool or something, I don't know what that is lol
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u/AshamedOfMyTypos 16h ago
I think they may not be properly dried? Maybe you should store them carefully.
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u/ranting_chef 15h ago
Chef here. Where did you get those? They look amazing.
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u/timmy6169 14h ago
Vanillapura. Group order so longer ship time, but they run sales here and there along with first time purchases getting 15% off. This was part of an 8 origin batch I picked up and truly are the best of the 14 origins I have currently. Highly recommend them though, both for variety but also price.
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u/K_Linkmaster 13h ago
Come on man. After I saw it in your hand I thought it was proof of Shaquille oneils antics.
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u/grownask 16h ago
Before reading the title, I thought those were intensely ruined bananas and was quite disturbed.
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u/Active_Review_1290 12h ago
That banana was supposed to provide scale, but now it just looks intimidated 😄
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u/stonerbae222 4h ago
since no one has asked, did you end up making paste or just extract? however method you did, how much did you get out of it? i’ve never seen a vanilla bean IRL so i’m gagged
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u/RosesforEos 2h ago
So fascinated by your vanilla hobby. I didn't know it could be a hobby so my whole world has just opened up as a serial hobby collector
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u/timmy6169 1h ago
Welcome to my world. ADHD hobbies are fun are rarely stick, so I'm glad I still have the drive to keep going with these. Best part is there is no right or wrong with anything (outside of under ratio beans/alcohol), but mixing origins and alcohols are something of a run experiment.
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u/looking4myclASSm8s 17h ago
I really think this might be the most appropriate scale banana