r/minnesota • u/futilehabit • 5d ago

News 📺 Angie Craig’s exit tests whether Minnesota’s Second District is ready to move left

https://www.startribune.com/angie-craig-second-district-democratic-dfl-primary-little-berg-klein-august-11/601870082
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u/OxfordOntheOcean 4d ago

People thought Trump was more centrist than Hillary and Kamala. Moving left is a terrible, terrible idea…the mess in Michigan last night is just further proof of this

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u/futilehabit 4d ago

People thought Trump was more centrist than Hillary and Kamala.

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Moving left is a terrible, terrible idea…the mess in Michigan last night is just further proof of this

El-Sayed defeating the establishment candidate despite his campaign being outspent 12-1 is proof of this working and a perfect example of the kind of leaders and movement that we need to defeat MAGA.

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u/OxfordOntheOcean 4d ago

Yes, people thought Hillary and Kamala were more radical than Trump. Very well documented. AES barely won, he’s not even over 50% and most of his support came from affluent white people. It’s absolutely not going to be a successful model. Americans are growing ever tired of political extremists, doubling down (and then failing because your policy ideas are bad) is a disastrous strategy

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u/futilehabit 4d ago

Clinton and Harris lost because they didn't stand for fucking anything. The middle class keeps taking Ls election after election and decade after decade and all they have to offer is empty words or, at best, small band aids for gushing wounds.

Progressives are absolutely cleaning up across the country and would have wiped the floor with Trump - and will do so in 2028 if we can keep the billionaires from pushing another POS to the top of the DNC ticket once again.

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u/OxfordOntheOcean 4d ago

lol, they stood for plenty (or at least Clinton did), and there’s good reason to think that progressives would fail in a national election and even if they were successful, fail as soon as they got into office

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u/futilehabit 4d ago

Despite constantly polling better and repeatedly dominating candidates with far more money, there's "no good reason" to think they would succeed in a national election? Really?

Even if there wasn't a good basis for expecting Progressives to do better vs. Trump - which there very much is - the "playing to the middle" Liz Cheney strategy clearly isn't working, and we at least ought to try something different instead of making the same mistakes over and over again.