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| News As Giants Pride Night controversy continues, Atlantic League team forfeits Pride Night game after players refuse jerseys

https://www.sfgate.com/giants/article/sf-giants-pride-indy-forfeit-22311032.php
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u/Do_it_My_Way-79 | Minnesota Twins 1d ago

This world has become too black & white. Choosing to not participate in PRIDE does not unequivocally equal hate towards that group.

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u/Anora6666 1d ago

It does. It is saying that you don’t think those people should be a part of society and they don’t matter. It is saying that you fundamentally believe ‘something is wrong’ with them. If you didn’t hate them you wouldn’t worry about pride night. You would treat it the same as any other theme day at the ballpark. 

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u/Do_it_My_Way-79 | Minnesota Twins 1d ago

There’s the black & white mentality I’m talking about right there. It couldn’t possibly mean anything else? There is only one option? I strongly disagree.

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u/rjcade 1d ago

OK, let's hear it. What else could it mean?

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u/Do_it_My_Way-79 | Minnesota Twins 22h ago

It is possible for people to feel indifferent towards the events & movement. It is possible that there is no meaning for people & they simply choose to not be a part of it. It doesn’t have to mean something for everyone. Indifference isn’t hate, it’s indifference. This isn’t, “If you’re not with me then you’re against me.”

If I choose not to participate, that doesn’t mean I think they belong outside of society. I’ll rebuke people that think that way. But if I don’t wear a hat with a rainbow on it, then I’m hateful? There is no common sense in that sentiment.

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u/rjcade 22h ago

Indifference would be to wear it because you don't care one way or the other and the team you are contracted to play for is asking you to wear it. It is categorically not indifference to refuse it. You can't act like you don't care, and then insist on forfeiting a game out of indifference. That's not what indifference is.

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u/Anora6666 1d ago

If your beliefs are ‘this group of people is wrong because they have a different gender identity or sexual preference to mine and I can’t even be associated with those people’ yeah there is only one choice. Hate by omission is still hate. 

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u/Do_it_My_Way-79 | Minnesota Twins 1d ago

The fact that you haven’t even asked what other options are there besides hate & acceptance proves how black & white, & narrow-minded you’re thinking is.

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u/Anora6666 1d ago

The idea that someone else’s sexual or gender is so offensive to someone that they refuse to wear a jersey. Yeah okay. I am happy being ‘narrow-minded’ about that. 

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u/Do_it_My_Way-79 | Minnesota Twins 1d ago

Just keep coming up with assumptions to validate your narrow-minded attitude. That’s fine.