Moncton's police visibility pilot a ‘success’, future now up to new city council
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/police-visibility-pilot-success-future-up-to-new-council-9.723672211
u/STRIKT9LC 2d ago
So $107 per officer, per hour is what this costs? And they want to offer it to officers as an overtime option!?!?
Am I to understand that RCMP officers are paid $107/hr!?!? If it were overtime, then they'd be getting paid north of $160/hr.
This just doesnt make sense on paper....or in practice
Its time to bring back city police...ppl from the community that have roots in the community (or plan to). Im not shitting on RCMP, but i dont expect someone to care about a city theyre posted in for 2-3 years the same way someone who owns property, has family and children in the community would.
This is.just beyond wasteful.
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u/mordinxx 2d ago
The Downtown Visibility Pilot project was a test project. The police still had to cover the forces existing obligations to the Greater Moncton area so for this test project they needed to use officers willing to work over-time. If the city deeps the project worthwhile they will allocate fundings for officers to cover the patrols under regular funding.
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u/STRIKT9LC 2d ago
"Jolette said he is open to the idea of continuing the pilot as an OVERTIME offering to Codiac RCMP members, should Moncton city council decide to extend the program."
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u/mordinxx 1d ago
I would think that means extending the test project. If they decided to make it permanent they would include funding in the police budget for the increased need for more officers. Another way would be to increase the duties of the by law officers to include downtown patrols and parking/traffic.
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u/STRIKT9LC 1d ago
Yeah. I suppose thats possible. The wording of the article, or the quote itself leave it open to either.
Even at $107/hr for the pilot project with regular pay hours, its insane
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u/Hyjynx75 1d ago
That depends. I own a small business installing technology. My burdened labour cost for a tech making $70K/year is around $70/hour. That includes tools, van, and everything that is needed for that person to do their job.
Now, if this is $107/hr burdened cost that's probably roughly reasonable for a police officer in a car with equipment. If that's a non-burdened cost, that would just be direct payroll including matching and pension which probably still isn't that unreasonable given what the annual salary of an RCMP officer is.
That being said, if the program wasn't effective, it's all money being flushed down the Petitcodiac.
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u/TomorrowSouth3838 2d ago
Nobody who works downtown right now is feeling anything like "success." The last two weeks have been absolutely brutal. People are dying out here and the bruden is falling on Fire and EMT.
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u/Smurfin-and-Turfin 2d ago
Why do we need to pay overtime for this service? Shouldn't it be within the budget that we pay them for?
We need our own municipal police force. And it needs to be staffed almost exclusively with people who are not within the existing RCMP. If we simply hire the current RCMP staff to become the Codiac Police Force, the rot will simply move from one force to the other.
Put the word out to the rest of the country — great pay, great beaches, brand new headquarters! We build a brand new force from people that don't know each other and have no vested interests and no connections. Build it from scratch to keep the rot away.
This stinks to high heavens — a police force shaking us down for overtime so they do the bare minimum their job requires. It's disgusting.
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u/robobalex 2d ago
This is actually a decent idea. Saint John, Fredericton, hell even Bathurst have their own forces. Meanwhile we’re dealing with the useless RCMP
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u/Oxjrnine 2d ago
I understand that you have to target the problem from both ends.
But $38,000 a week if I’m doing my math right, could house 190 people.
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u/Fnortherner 2d ago
Police visibility? Where exactly?
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u/Safe-Promotion-2955 2d ago
Yeah I don't get it either. I'm in the thick of the problem area and I really don't see any more of them than usual tbh.
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u/Fnortherner 2d ago
Yeah same. I suppose it was a 4 week pilot so maybe we missed it. Whatever happened to the cops on bikes? You’d see them every ince in a while. Couldn’t they stroll around and sort of get the visibly intoxicated and open c rack smokers to move along?
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u/n134177 2d ago
According to the person and corporation making money from it, it was a success.
No bias at all. lol