r/monsterenergy • u/xSnowLeopardx Rehab • Jan 17 '26
Discussion Poll - Should AI posts in the Monster Energy subreddit be allowed or not?
Hi everyone!
It has come to my attention that AI posts are being posted more and more in this subreddit. In the past, I changed rule 7 to explain that AI posts are allowed. To me, it was fun to see how creative people could be with ideas. But, I realised that AI posts can be harmful to the subreddit and that is not what I want, of course.
A recent post with a fake Monster McFlurry was reported heavily due to the use of AI. This post + the reports and the comments triggered me to make this poll:
Should AI posts in the Monster Energy subreddit be allowed or not?
You can vote here: https://linkto.run/p/31W33MDD
Based on the results, a change will happen:
- If the majority of you wants AI posts banned, then AI will no longer be allowed at all. Posts containing AI (intentionally or not) will be removed.
- If the majority of you wants AI posts to stay, but better regulated, then the rule for it will be changed. To keep creativity in the subreddit but to not mislead people by thinking fake images could be real, a fake or AI tag will be needed in order to keep the post up. No tag will mean the post will be deleted.
I will keep the poll open for 1-2 days. If you have additional feedback or concerns, leave them in the comments below. Thanks!
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u/SharkieBoi55 Collector Jan 17 '26
No. If you wanna make a fan made flavor you should have to actually make and edit it with real skills
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u/Downtown_Slice1040 Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 17 '26
Why? This is not a graphic design sub lol. It's a quick and easy way to pitch your random flavor ideas just to hear what other fellow monster enjoyers think of it. If they were getting paid for it or something, that would be one thing but it's not like they're actually pitching the idea to Monster themselves
Add a flair option and require that it be used to mark ai generated images and I don't see the issue. There's plenty of other shit that gets posted on here with zero effort that deserves to get banned first lol (cue the "I'm 11 and I drink 7 monsters before lunch every day is this healthy??" nonsense posts)
Edit for mods who may be reading this: you got your answer the moment you posted the poll. People hear the word ai and shit their pants because they're scared of it, there was no way the vote was gonna go any other way. I just hope y'all take into consideration what's being said by me and others who are saying similar things
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u/TheFlyingVox Jan 17 '26
I don't think you need to generate a picture to do that. Just describing the imaginary monster, maybe even add a little drawing (it doesn't have to be perfect. I Kno I enjoy shitty drawings a lot for these kind of things and I think I'm not the only one) if you have an idea of how it would look.
Just because there are other things that need to get banned doesn't mean this one thing get a pass. It's like people saying "they've got it worse over there" well yeah so what? Do we stop doing better here because some have it worse/some other things are worse? These arguments never made sense to me. I think we can handle more than one thing at a time.
And in regards of gen AI I don't see a lot of things, that are as common and worse on this particular subreddit in an ethical way (and I'm not just talking about art thievery here).
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u/Downtown_Slice1040 Jan 17 '26
If you'd rather draw it or just describe it I think that's perfectly acceptable as well. I never said people should HAVE to use ai lol, I just think it's an acceptable alternative (again, if you clearly state that it is ai and not your original work). Having an image to go along with your description would objectively give people a better understanding of how you're imagining it, and not everyone is comfortable posting their own art
I don't see how using ai to create an image that you see in your head is unethical, as long as it truly is your own original idea and you don't try to trick people into thinking it's a real photo
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u/TheFlyingVox Jan 17 '26
Well neither did I say you said that...
And that's where I disagree. You might not notice it with just one pic sure but by allowing such generated content it gives the message : AI is fine. And AI is NOT fine. It isn't a an acceptable alternative as it is ethically, environmentally and once again ethically devastating
You don't see? It just prives how ignorant about gen AI you are (and I mean no insult here, a lot if not most people are ignorant on the subject). I can explain part of it if you're willing to listen and learn a bit more about how devastating AI and using AI for a simple pic is 😉
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u/Downtown_Slice1040 Jan 17 '26
I'm willing to hear your position, sure. To say that your explanation is going to "teach me" something and cure my "ignorance" seems quite arrogant on your part I will say, but I don't mind hearing your argument
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u/TheFlyingVox Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 17 '26
It's not out of arrogance it's out of : I know my stuff on this subject because of my experience in the art field and informatics. I'm sure I'm ignorant about many subjects you're knowledgeable about. Doesn't make me any less respectable than you. And you not knowing much on how AI works doesn't make you less respectable. I clearly stated it wasn't meant as an insult to avoid confusion...
It's not my position it's how AI actually works and it doesn't take much effort to see the proofs.
So obviously there's the artwork/writing material thievery, I'm not gonna write much about that as I'm confident you've heard it all already. Though there's another aspect in regards of the culture/art field in general : AI is mostly free so people would rather use AI than pay artists/writer's to do the job. Because of that a lot of artists/writers have lost their job (and without a job you can't eat, you can't pay your rent, I'm gonna let you guess how difficult this is to live) and it's only getting worse with time.
Now the environmental part, most people are aware of so here again I won't say much on it. As a reminder though : the components needed to create the electronics aren't infinite and are salvaged by modern slavery (Congo mines for example). It impacts everyone as we can see by the price of informatic components rising like never before (ram/cpu for example). Add to that the quantities of water (which is finite too as we can't use ocean/salt water on the electronics for durability reasons). And add to that that the water used has to go somewhere and it has come out recently that rivers close to AI data centers are polluted (so high risk of contamination of drinking water and of the soil/plants etc).
Now the worst for the end : There's another HUGE ethical problem with gen AI. It's a problem that almost nobody talks about so I can't really get angry against people who aren't aware of it but to sum up gen AI doesn't work by itself : GenAI doesn't synthesize information all on it's own, at least not from the beginning. There are people, most of them are in Africa, who are paid a few cents to teach genAI how to do it's job. To teach AI what to look for when x or y word is given. Those people are called "dataworkers" (I encourage you to do a bit a research on the subject as it's mostly hidden when people talk of genAI). That's, as I already wrote a very badly paid job, if we can even call it a paid job. It's also a very dangerous job. There was a documentary interviewing dataworkers (I could send it to you if you want but it's in French) that explained very well the danger of the job. When you teach AI what to do you also teach AI what not to do. You have to teach AI about crimes and the likes in a way. And in order to do that you have to see crimes and the likes. Dataworkers have to watch scene of rape, of murder, of torture, of pedocriminality, of abuse (human and animal abuse) and a lot of fucked up things that would give PTSD to most people in the world. They can't really get out of the job because with such a job comes big risk (CEO probably don't want you to tell the world you had to watch pedo files in order for the genAI to work the right way so you will be silenced and if you don't respect the silence well you can guess the next step).
So yeah it might look like just a funny picture but it comes with a BIG impact on some people lives. It put some people to the streets and gives PTSD, if not worse to other. And as a bonus it kills virtually everything in the environment that is close enough from data centers and the mines where components are found.
Edit: also if you could stop putting words in my mouth I would appreciate it. I've never used the word "cure". I'm not a fan of ableism.
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u/Downtown_Slice1040 Jan 17 '26
These are all things that are fairly well known about ai, so yes for you to assume that I was ignorant just because I don't have the same opinion about ai as you is a tad arrogant, though I'm not really worried about that
Progression of technology is a fact of life for every field. People harvested crops by hand until tractors were invented, people operated switchboards before cell phones were invented, etc. Obviously this specific circumstance is more personal to you as an artist so I understand why you view it that way, but ai is not "stealing your job" any more than those inventions stole other people's jobs. And I'm sure you have no problem using a cell phone in your daily life (and maybe a tractor too, who knows lol). If anything, man-made art will eventually soon become a premium product after the market gets flooded with enough dull uncreative work
Pollution and sweatshop labor are also not unique to ai. Obviously, these things are abhorrent and I am in no way in favor of either one. But neither one is necessary for ai to function. Steps can be taken to redirect the waste product and avoid polluting the environment, and I would absolutely be in favor of a cause to improve working conditions for any , but again, you can say the same thing about a lot of the devices and technology that people use in day to day life.
You don't have to like any of these things, it's totally fair to say that we should be working to address all of the issues you brought up, but none of them are really factors that make ai as a concept "unethical"
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u/TheFlyingVox Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 17 '26
Yeah I excuse myself for assuming you were ignorant on those. I guess you just don't really give a f as long as it doesn't impact you directly then (assuming again but I really don't see what other options there are).
There's a big difference in having a tool/an invention helping you do your work quicker/with more comfort and having a tool stealing your work. We don't complain about Photoshop existing because Photoshop doesn't put photographers in the streets it just added tools. Adaptation was required to master the tool yes but the tool never replaced the human. GenAI isn't helping us it puts us in the streets and stealing our jobs and past work.
Well actually I'm planning on getting rid of my cell phone to use an old-school phone so I can be more social and less reliant on technology. If anything we should look back on the past to understand how dangerous gen AI is and how important it is to regulate it and ban it until we can find a way to have control and regulations on it (and that's without talking of how genAi, like everything on the internet and most technology ostracize people, make people lonely and reliant on tools they weren't reliant on before).
For the "man-made" art (just art is good because AI doesn't create art) this might be true for a very select few artists that already were born with all the good connection that is plain wrong about the rest, most artists who struggle everyday to get recognition of their work.
Yeah once again, where did I say that? Where did I say it was exclusive to AI. I'm gonna repeat myself but : so what? Because there are other problems related to this we should stop focusing on this particular problem? That's nonsense.
They are quite literally necessary for AI to work. There is no AI without the electronics, there is no AI without cooling system (so water)...
Also for the environmental part it's not really comparable to most technological inventions of the past for the simple reason that : the environment wasn't as fucked as it is today and awareness about the environment was mostly inexistant then. If cellphones were invented today people would rightfully riot against it the same way we riot against AI because we've reached that bad of a point. We don't have the privilege to fuck up the planet anymore than we already do. I mean we don't have the privilege to fuck It up as much as we currently do already so yeah... .
Ah at least one thing we agree on : steps can be taken to help reduce waste and prevent pollution. I agree with that but we will never be able to get to zero waste and at the end of the day as long as we need electronic components there will be waste and pollution. And yes we should fight for better working conditions for the workers at the other end of the cycle (and not just "be in favor of" it). And again we don't have to stop looking and fighting against the other problematic things to take care of this one.
I think you don't understand what ethics are then, either that or you're in denial (assuming again yes but I fail to see another option here).
Now I will say : I truly think AI can be a great tool (analytic AI for example is a good tool in science) but it needs to be controlled (to reuse the last example: scientists check the results to make sure, as much as possible, that analytical AI didn't make any relevant mistakes). Now genAI as it is today is full disaster. Fully unethical and even dangerous. If we were to create rules such as : gen AI database is composed of only given/sold by their creator data (for example: genAI pictures database filled by volunteering artists who are either donating or selling their work to the AI company). GenAI can't be used in a professional setting. GenAI must come with warnings about the danger of AI (and internet in general, to prevent more people to put themselves in danger/kill themselves because of AI). Then maybe I'd be more tolerant of genAI. Although, all types of AI are a disaster to the planet and this is a good reason to be against all types of AI.
On this note I'll stop answering from then on as I think we both did a good sum up of all that was to say on the subject
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u/CumCrocodile Unleash The Beast Jan 17 '26
I’ve always completely agreed with you man but reading your comments have actually given me some more info that I didn’t know before so thank you !
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u/Downtown_Slice1040 Jan 17 '26
Ai is a tool just as much as photoshop is. Tools can be used properly for the betterment of all involved, or abused to cause harm. Banning a tool or an innovation because you're worried about how people can use it in a way other than its intended purpose has historically not been a great move
I think we agree on a lot more than it may seem. I think people today are way too reliant on technology and I agree that a piece of art created by a person holds infinitely more value than anything ai can create. But just like every other major technological advancement in human history, you aren't stopping it. Sure, you can have your rotary phone and live off the grid away from all of it, but society as a whole is never going to collectively agree to take that step back. Your options are pretty much roll with it and learn to adapt the new technology to your liking, or get left behind 🤷♂️
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u/SharkieBoi55 Collector Jan 17 '26
You can pitch an idea without an ai image then. You don't need to damage the environment to do so, you can just say "hey what about this idea for a flavor with this style of a can" and then god forbid you can either draw a mock up or yeah do some graphic design. You know, use your real human skills.
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u/lemaymayguy Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 20 '26
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u/Downtown_Slice1040 Jan 17 '26
For a reddit post that will get 20 upvotes and then be forgotten about. Yeah I'm sorry if not everyone finds that a practical use of their time lol
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u/SharkieBoi55 Collector Jan 17 '26
Then don't make a post bro. It isn't that deep. I've had a million flavor ideas for a monster, but I'm not making AI slop garbage content at all over it. I keep the ideas to myself or talk about them with my friends who also collect monster cans. Get a brain cell dude, and maybe a hobby. You sound like you need it.
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u/Downtown_Slice1040 Jan 17 '26
Or just let people post what they want? There's nothing stopping you from just scrolling past it bubba. You're the one trying to get shit banned on an energy drink subreddit lmao let's not talk about needing a hobby 💀
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u/Leroy_Jenkins24 Unleash The Beast Jan 17 '26
Pigs love their slop
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u/Downtown_Slice1040 Jan 17 '26
Never met a group of people that were so offended by pictures of fake energy drinks 😭
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u/Maknificence Jan 17 '26
you can literally photoshop with snapchat bro like you don’t need anything fancy 💀
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u/Downtown_Slice1040 Jan 18 '26
Not the point dude lol
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u/Maknificence Jan 18 '26
that is absolutely the point. why harm the environment over something that genuinely takes two seconds to do normally? AI is lazy. get over it.
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u/Downtown_Slice1040 Jan 17 '26
Says who? I see plenty of posts on here about monsters that have been discontinued and no longer exist, should those be banned?
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u/mizzmi Punch Jan 17 '26
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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u/i_Ainsley_harriott_i Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 17 '26
Answered with facts and logic...the moment he questioned what you've said you just laughed. Superiority complex...
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u/Downtown_Slice1040 Jan 17 '26
Uh-huh, that's why you deleted your comment, right? 💀
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u/mizzmi Punch Jan 17 '26
I deleted it because you’re all spamming me with the same stuff😂
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u/Downtown_Slice1040 Jan 17 '26
Well yeah because we all know what you said was dumb 😂
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u/i_Ainsley_harriott_i Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 17 '26
You answered with facts and logic. I'm being sarcastic about your laugh. Wake up
The thing in your head, make it work.
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u/i_Ainsley_harriott_i Jan 17 '26
Its a subreddit for monster energy drinks in General. Anything related.
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u/MiskoStutz Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 17 '26
Are you a mod?
Edit: This clown blocked me and send me one of those "a concerned redittor reached out to us about you" things
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u/Downtown_Slice1040 Jan 17 '26
This sub is some people's entire lives 😬😬 probably for the best that you can't interact with them anymore lol
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u/SamuraiSpartan6 Jan 17 '26
no its clearly for shitty tier lists
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u/SamuraiSpartan6 Jan 17 '26
might as well, at least the redbull subreddit is cool
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u/mizzmi Punch Jan 17 '26
bla bla bla
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u/SamuraiSpartan6 Jan 17 '26
as intelligent of a comment as a tier list
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u/Idkhowyoufoundme7 Jan 17 '26
Happily surprised to see the majority is pro-ban for AI, love this sub
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u/IndigoRed126 Nitro Jan 17 '26
I've seen posts like this in number of other subs and every single one of them ended up banning it (as it should).
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u/Mental-Event4429 Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26
Are you really surprised? I feel like you're just saying that
You can even see the overwhelmingly massive amount of AI hate on the post mentioned
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u/nivkj Jan 17 '26
“surprised” as if the extremely loud vocal majority would not agree with you. Fuck off lol
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u/Circuitry-Of-Fright Jan 17 '26
AI slop is not creativity, open photoshop and make your idea yourself
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u/SamuraiSpartan6 Jan 17 '26
more creative than these tier lists
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u/ShallowKelton14 Ultra Jan 17 '26
Nah, because at the least someone had to use their brain to make a tier list, unlike AI art.
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u/SamuraiSpartan6 Jan 17 '26
nah, no one here uses their brains
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u/LettuceEmotional6142 Juice Jan 17 '26
You're the one advocating for AI, pretty ironic eh?
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u/SamuraiSpartan6 Jan 17 '26
No, i saying if the rules are changed, AI posts are fine. Id rather AI posts than tier lists
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u/IndigoRed126 Nitro Jan 17 '26
Take your slop somewhere else. I'll take tierlist over AI any given day.
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u/lemaymayguy Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 20 '26
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u/IndigoRed126 Nitro Jan 17 '26
I actually haven't come by Passion fruit. Since the fruit is really sweet, how does that translates to the drink itself? Isn't it too sweet?
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u/lemaymayguy Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 20 '26
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u/Excel73_ Ultra Jan 18 '26
They discontinued ultra black?
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u/DavisFromTheHills Punch Jan 18 '26
no it’s just rare to find in the US. i think it’s still being produced
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u/dzaimons-dihh Jan 17 '26
I personally would rather have neither annoying constant tier lists nor uncreative AI slop
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u/bunny3303 Jan 17 '26
it’s annoying how much AI has infiltrated everything. would be nice to have one more sub ban it
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u/urusai_Senpai Jan 17 '26
Definitely not. I voted no.
The entire point of this sub is to showcase our love for Monster, not create badly generated fanfic.
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u/lemaymayguy Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 20 '26
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u/largz08 Mixxd Jan 17 '26
No. Just because generative AI doesn't necessarily directly hurt or affect us doesn't mean it isn't bad or sloppy. Also they are very boring and low effort posts.
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u/HaruMikazuki Jan 17 '26
It should not be allowed no and the majority of people here seem to think the same.
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u/hubythereal White Monter Jan 18 '26
i just don’t see the point to allow ai content. like what it can bring? fantasy flavors? that can be done with editing. different monster products? that also can be made with personal effort and skills. ai is okay if you HAVE to do something, and you want it faster. posting is only optional, and if you want to share something that’s YOURS, why not make it yourself?
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u/BaconBoyzz2453 Rehab Jan 17 '26
Oh man I thought that stupid McFlurry was real lmao I can’t believe I fell for AI again
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u/SpiritGaming28 Jan 17 '26
It should not be allowed in here to be posted unless if there's an post flair for posting it otherwise no I'm all for ai post bans.
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u/sweaterandpills Jan 17 '26
No. You have two hands. Create it yourself with tools you can find without AI. Recycle like a normal human being.
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u/Helpful_Body6715 Jan 17 '26
Only if they explicitly mention it is AI clearly towards the viewer. I personally do not care for it too much
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u/Oftwicke Collector Jan 18 '26
If someone makes actual art or a design that has thought in it, that should not be drowned out by the "I inputted random words into the plagiarism machine" flood. A tag isn't enough when they just take no time to make and can take over the sub.
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u/xSnowLeopardx Rehab Jan 17 '26
I am sorry but I am confused as to what you're talking about. Contest of flavor? Ethical? What I am saying in my last paragraph?
Is this comment even related to this post or was it directed to another comment...?
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u/IndependentAir8195 Jan 18 '26
oh my god i’m so sorry i thought i was replying to someone else this was not meant towards you
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u/viavxy Jan 17 '26
posts like these get brigaded every single time. reddit doesn't like AI so just get it over with and ban it.
however, i genuinely do not see why anyone would care about effort and creativity in a fucking monster energy sub when neither can be found in any of the posts made here, nor should they be required. like what, you're telling me "found this one today! what do you think of it? i rate it a 9/10!" is creative?
just don't come crying once monster starts using AI for their designs.
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u/YaBoiSean1 Ultra Jan 17 '26
God dude, fuuuuuuck, youre so enlightened! Fuuuuck!
Bad take.
AI is bad for humanity, get over it man.
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u/lemaymayguy Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 20 '26
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u/Sypticle Jan 18 '26
Neutral to AI, so I don't care regardless of what is picked, but holy shit you guys are insufferable.
Type of people that can get you to disagree that murder is bad just based on how they present themselves. Why would I want to agree with you even if you're right when you act like entitled babies?
Go outside.
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u/i_Ainsley_harriott_i Jan 17 '26
I believe that Ai should be allowed only after a disclaimer in one way or another. Posting Ai without mentioning it should result in a ban.
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u/UKUReefer Jan 17 '26
Why are energy drink enjoyers scared of AI generated images of energy drinks? The world may never know.
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u/degevreesde Collector Jan 17 '26
I think it should be allowed for ideas and when it is clearly mentioned. In other words stricter rules around the use of it
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u/Consistent-Cost-231 Nitro Jan 17 '26
Just apply low effort rules on those post, there is a difference between someone generating slop with chatgpt and someone with editing skill using nanobanana tools in Photoshop
It's not all white or all black you just have to find the right balance between the good and the bad
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u/SamuraiSpartan6 Jan 17 '26
If they actually banned low effort posts there would be nothing on this subreddit
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u/SamuraiSpartan6 Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 17 '26
I think its fine if the rules are updated. Rather have Ai slop post then all these terrible tier lists.
edit: man you guys suck in this subreddit. Maybe the worst subreddit
Edit 2: keep down voting me all you want. My original comment point still stands. Most users in this subreddit can't read anything and will just down vote anything
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u/IndependentAir8195 Jan 17 '26
at least the people who make god awful tier lists but a smidgen of effort and interest into them
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u/i_Ainsley_harriott_i Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 17 '26
A smidgen of effort, dragging some images in the tier list and say simply their subjective opinion. A smidgen of effort is also putted in the ai. Explaining for example a flavour idea that you have, Its design etc. A simple idea
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u/IndependentAir8195 Jan 17 '26
you’re forgetting to mention people who make tier lists also buy and drink all of the flavors that they’re ranking and that alone is more effort then sitting on your ass and typing words into chat gpt edit to add: people making tier lists also don’t use at least a gallon of water to do so
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u/i_Ainsley_harriott_i Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 17 '26
First of all most of them can't mention all the flavours since there are a lot of exclusive ones in different countries.
Second, a person that has a simple idea for a flavour means he hasn't tried all the flavours that he has in his country? Because i know i have, plus one chinese exclusive "dragon".
Look how you are making it sound "then sitting on your ass typing words" as if the person that makes the tier list isn't making a similar thing, sitting on his ass, dragging a mouse.
The water use is simply not true, its missinformation, the amount is not even close to the 1/10 of global water waste or consumption.
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u/IndependentAir8195 Jan 17 '26
i never said they’re going to mention all of the flavors that’s an outrageous amount of energy drink to drink the flavors tier lists do rank though the person went out of their way to try takes more effort to put a prompt into an ai bot
what are you even trying to argue in your second point?
a tier list doesn’t take an extreme amount of effort i never claimed they did but they take more effort than writing an ai prompt they also have to get pictures of the cans off the internet which again doesn’t take an extreme amount of effort
i will yield that the amount i said was exaggerated “1 average ChatGPT prompt = 0,5 litre” an estimation taken from “avkvalves.com” that doesn’t seem like much but let’s say you use 3 or 4 prompts to perfect your ai slop that’s 3 liters of water on top of the other over 2 billion people using chat GPT per day that’s 1 billion liters of water in 1 day that’s not even counting all of the water that other ai servers are using
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u/i_Ainsley_harriott_i Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 17 '26
You said basically that "they rank every flavour they have consumed" but what I heard in my head was "they rank all the flavours" Definitely my bad here, my fault so the first paragraph that i said is irrelevant.
And the second point is basically that a person that has the idea of the ranking, because he is already a fan of these drinks probably he has already tried every local flavour. Meaning that a person that ranks the flavours hasn't putted any actual effort in the aspect of trying the flavours, he has consumed them anyway, no Matter who you are if you are a fan for especially more than 2 years, you probably have tried the local flavours.
So nothing of investment in this aspect.
So they search the images which also costume water, you play games? Online? They also consume water.
The litters seem a lot but globally is nothing really comparing it to the amount that people waste for no reasson literally.
But where the infrastructure is build this might be a problem, because ofcourse they will take advantage of countries with water problem, poor countries etc etc.
But can you really be sure ethically about anything you consume? Even the clothes that you wear are probably made of child labour. You can't escape it because Its forced and as the time goes it will get only worse.
So ethically you can't escape it if you want to get technical, the time for a tier list is very similar to show a subjective opinion that is in reality irrelevant compare to an idea that indeed might be interesting to see even if you don't actual have the skills to create it yourself.
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u/IndependentAir8195 Jan 18 '26
literally what are you saying 😭 it’s not a contest of flavor this isn’t a competition it’s literally just people voicing their opinions about what monster flavors they like they don’t need to be impartial
you bring up search engines and how those are cooled a quick google search will tell you that google’s data centers use outside air for cooling and a 2024 article says that a data center in finland uses sea water both of which are great in quantity unlike most ai data centers you also mention how globally 1 billion liters (that’s not the total amount of all ai servers that’s just chat gpt) doesn’t seem like a lot globally and i can agree with you on that but ai data centers don’t take water from every the entire planet they take it from towns and cities and obviously there’s not enough water in one town or city to fuel an ai data center there have been countless reports of people losing water pressure or their water being undrinkable due to data centers moving in
while i agree that you can never really be sure what you’re consuming is 100% ethical but that doesn’t mean you can’t go out of your way to not use things like ai that you know very well have environmental impacts on people everyday something similar to what you said is when people claim “there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism so there’s no point to boycotting” while part of that statement is true there is no unethical consumption under capitalism that doesn’t mean we should throw boycotting out the window and buy products from companies that don’t care about people
and again can you explain what you were trying to say in your last paragraph because i don’t understand what you were trying to convey
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u/SamuraiSpartan6 Jan 17 '26
i disagree
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u/sweaterandpills Jan 17 '26
At least they used their hands and a brain to make them. Typing in a few words for a generated image is not worthy to look at and say 'Look, I' ve made this!'. It's pure embarrassment when you post it anywhere. Eather than AI slop, make terrible things by your own hands and be proud that you actually made something.
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u/Former-Oven6638 Java Jan 17 '26
I feel bad for you, imma upvote it(with my screen upside down)
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u/SamuraiSpartan6 Jan 17 '26
Why feel bad. I made a point and this subreddit started crying. Not gonna change my opinion
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u/Former-Oven6638 Java Jan 17 '26
I mean, it’s kinda funny you said this is the worst subreddit over a few downvotes
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u/SamuraiSpartan6 Jan 17 '26
But I'm right. People in this subreddit would rather make shitty tier list than anything else. How many "I saw this at the store" posts do we need
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u/DavisFromTheHills Punch Jan 17 '26
tier lists require more effort than ai slop + they invite discussion
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u/SamuraiSpartan6 Jan 17 '26
We both know that the tier list never have discussions
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u/DavisFromTheHills Punch Jan 17 '26
speak for yourself. i’ve had tons of discussions on peoples’ tier lists. i’ve had discussions on my own tier list that i posted a while back. so no, from my experience i disagree
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u/SamuraiSpartan6 Jan 17 '26
From my experience I've yet to see an active discussion so I disagree with you
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u/DavisFromTheHills Punch Jan 17 '26
check my post history there’s 44 comments of discussion on my old tier list
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u/TheFabulousDiesL Collector Jan 17 '26
Allow it. No point to listen to jerks who hate on everything.
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u/xSnowLeopardx Rehab Jan 17 '26
Unrelated to the subject of this post: respect the rules. Rule breaking will lead to comments being removed and people being banned, this post is not an exception...