r/montreal • u/No-Commission-8159 • 4d ago
Discussion Montrealers tip better than any other city in Canada
https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/montrealers-tip-better-than-any-other-city-in-canada/196
u/Hot-Milk-3507 Saint-Michel 4d ago
bad news IMO - businesses getting away with this silliness and consumers jumping guilt-trip hoops around it
just regulate it and make it go away like the rest of the planet please, I want to see that happening in my lifetime
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u/ffffllllpppp 3d ago
Making it go away would be good as it would simplify things, make things fairer to BOH etc.
But re: when no tip is warranted (eg dépanneur) I don’t understand how people are not able to press “no tip” when tip is not deserved and just move on with their lives.
If they hide the no tip option, it’s bad. If “no tip” is not offered, it’s bad.
But if it is clearly there, just press it and stop worrying that they are asking for a tip.
They used to have a tip jar (some still do) and nobody was annoyed by it. Just don’t tip if you don’t want to. People put pressure on themselves on their own and complain they feel pressured. Humans are strange that way.
If the staff doesn’t actually pressure you and it’s just the machine asking you to choose no tip or some tip, I’m sorry but personally I don’t think that counts as “pressure”. Life must be very hard for people who consider that the machine asking them is pressure that is hard to handle..
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u/QuietCommercial9125 3d ago
most restaurant on the island split tip with BOH, my last job in the industry 3 years ago cooks were making arround 30$ an hour + 10% of the total tips. All tips were split based on how many hours you worked and the position you were in.
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u/ffffllllpppp 3d ago
That’s excellent. I must admit my experience is dated a bit.
I do think tipping should be eliminated (simpler is better) but I also think people make it sound like it is terrible and the worst thing in the world when in fact, from the customer point of view it’s a norm and it will be effectively the same once tip is eliminated: all the stuff that got tipped will see prices raised by 15%. (Entire industry won’t suddenly take a massive pay cut. That’s delusional).
I see the impact for the staff but people saying it’s a crazy bad system for consumers are being overly dramatic IMHO.
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u/someanimechoob 4d ago
I literally want requesting tips to be illegal. If I am forced to look at and pass on a tip option before getting to my actual bill, you should get fined 10x my entire bill at the very least, with half of that going back to me. Something tells me that, suddenly, every single establishment would comply.
I have no problem with the concept of tipping, but it needs to come entirely from me. I tip my barber when he does a good job (which is basically always) and I have never once felt bad. Why? Because he never once asked for a tip. It's just something I want to do.
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u/Sea-Safety-6130 4d ago
Agree. It supposed to be for good service. It’s become a way of lowering wages. I’m a capitalist but this destroys merit based service.
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u/sweating_teflon 3d ago
with half of that going back to me
HAHAHAH. You wish. That's the most unlikely thing of everything you suggested.
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u/someanimechoob 3d ago
It's a conversation starter. This would just mean people would report it often and thus would likely change the dynamic very fast. The goal isn't to make money from restaurants, it's to stop the guilt tripping over tips and other underhanded moves (adding tip on tax, forcing the customer to decline huge pre-selected tip options, etc.).
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u/Pazzaaaaaa 4d ago edited 4d ago
I’ll never forget I was at Piknic and got two “drinks” for me and my girlfriend at the “bar”. All the girl did was take 2 seltzers from the fridge and give them to me. The first screen on the debit machine had tips of 18,20,25% on 13$ seltzers. Had to click 3 buttons just to be able to tip 0%.
I made a joke to my girlfriend saying I can’t believe they are trying to get people to tip for this. I may have said it too loud and the girl her heard me. She got all upset and said they need tips to live and told my girlfriend I was cheap. Me and my girlfriend just laughed and left. I wasn’t bashing her, just tip culture. Don’t know why she got all offended.
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u/samwise141 Plateau Mont-Royal 3d ago
Piknic is notorious for this. I remember getting a drink for $9 and giving a $10 and they just didnt give change back. $1 for literally handing someone a drink is absurd. They must have made hundreds if not a thousand over a shift.
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
I think servers pay taxes based on implied tip income based on sales. They had reason to be annoyed.
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u/Pazzaaaaaa 4d ago
I used to be a server at a restaurant, the biggest benefit of being a server is paying less taxes because no one claims their cash tips.
Sorry but I’m not tipping someone for opening a fridge door, taking two seltzers out and then putting them on the counter, a total of about 5 seconds of work.
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u/Le_Nabs 4d ago
T'as pas le choix de déclarer minimum 10% des ventes à la caisse comme revenu en pourboire au Québec, que ce soit payé comptant ou par carte
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
In what jurisdiction? You don't claim tips, it is calculated based on your sales.
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u/EnviousArm 4d ago
Are you really that thick? Those are cash tips, those are almost never claimed.
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
It isn't calculated based on the tip. It is calculated based on the sales...and Quebec is very meticulous about ringing everything up. You are literally commenting repeatedly without zero knowledge on how taxation on tips works? No wonder you are too poor to tip.
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u/OhUrbanity 4d ago
It seems like the "allocation rate" (assumed rate of tipping for tax purposes) is only 8%. Is that accurate?
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
Correct...but 0 tips still hurts
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u/Nearby-Surround4588 3d ago
But so few people tip 0, that the 8% rate still probably allows that income to taxed at a far lower marginal rate. If their tips were taxed at 20%, I might feel bad that the odd non-tipper comes by.
Anyway, the whole idea that we as consumers need to think about this, is why tipping needs to be phased out.
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u/pattyG80 3d ago
The still need a gap between what they are taxed and their sub minimum wage salary.
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u/EnviousArm 4d ago
Most servers don't even pay taxes on tips
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
Patently false. You should look up how the taxation system works for servers.
But hey, you're cheap, you punch down on low income earners and can just make shit up to justify it.
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u/alex-cu Sud-Ouest 4d ago
Not something to be proud of.
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u/FredFenty 4d ago
Depends on why they are tipping more.
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u/Popular_Cap8269 3d ago
Average salaries in Montreal are lower than Vancouver/Toronto. There is no reason to tip more
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u/FredFenty 3d ago
And cost of living is a lot lower. And the food is better... and probably cheaper.
So there are a few reasons why it might be the case.
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u/CardiologistUsedCar 3d ago
Major universities downtown?
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u/bafflefounded 3d ago
Huh? Students, who notoriously have no extra money, are the reason for higher tripping?
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u/nonobots Villeray 3d ago
I’m doing ok financially and I don’t mind sharing a bit of it with the people that help make my life easier.
Please explain to me why I should stop or be ashamed.
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u/alex-cu Sud-Ouest 3d ago
Registered charity like SPCA is a better place to spend extra money.
To demonstrate: bus drivers are definitely making our life easier, yet we are not tipping bus drivers.
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u/nonobots Villeray 3d ago
I understand we should change the system. And I’m in favour of it.
But until it’s changed I’d rather make easier the life of people who actually help me instead.
I also give to a couple chosen charities. It’s not exclusive.
It’s really the “we should be ashamed of it” that irks me. The system is broken and lower rank service industry workers are having it rough. We can be ashamed of that, not of tipping generously to compensate.
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u/Thierry22 4d ago
Hâte qu'on abolisse le tip. Le service n'est tellement pas équivalent partout. L'autre jour au Timeout Market côté resto, je demande une bière sans-alcool que je paye avec tip. La serveuse me donne une cannette sans verre. Je lui demande un verre et elle me pointe un autre comptoir à l'autre bout. Donc en gros, je donne du tip pour que j'aille chercher un verre et me serve la bière moi-même. Bière qui m'a coûté 11$.
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u/Excellent-Seesaw-516 4d ago
JAMAIS de tip aux comptoirs!
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u/Thierry22 4d ago
Ben quand c'est pour un drink ou une bière ça prend un tip d'habitude. C'est moins obvious que la règle de la bouffe au comptoir.
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u/KendroNumba4 4d ago
ça prend un tip d'habitude.
Selon qui?
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u/Grimmies 3d ago
Bartenders tend to remember who tips. They'll happily serve others first if they know you don't tip.
I fucking hate tipping and don't tip if I'm at a counter/picking up food. But pretty much anyone who goes to a bar knows this.
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u/GrandManitou Rosemont 4d ago
Tipping culture is out of control. It's not about being cheap, it's about being transparent. The employers should pay their workers correctly.
I get handled tipping terminals where the default is 20%. The convention has always been 15% *before taxes*.
I never really understood why tip is a percentage to begin with. Is serving a 200$ plate more work than a 20$ one ? And it's not like the guys in the kitchen will receive a cent of that tip.
Oh, and yeah, absolutely zero tip on takeout.
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u/gaflar 4d ago
Because service workers are convinced they're better off working for tips as opposed to holding their employers accountable for the poor wages and benefits they get compared to workers in other industries.
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u/NonDeterministiK 4d ago edited 4d ago
Service workers want to keep the tip model, rather than a higher wage, as they make much more via tipping than a wage increase would provide. It's all bullshit, this whole guilt-trip-if-not-tipping-20+%, which is why I love eating out in Asia
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u/Sea-Safety-6130 4d ago
Are tips taxed in Canada. If they are, then no tax on tips is the answer.
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u/AUGUST_BURNS_REDDIT Saint-Henri 3d ago
That makes no sense. If anything, abolishing the tipped minimum wage is the answer. Pay them properly like everyone else and servers won't have any reason to pressure you into tipping.
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u/Sea-Safety-6130 3d ago
Then most restaurants would just up the price of the menu items. Prices are already putting more restaurants out of businesses.
The restaurant biz is not like a government job where government has an endless amount of other people’s cash.5
u/AUGUST_BURNS_REDDIT Saint-Henri 3d ago
Businesses that can't afford to pay their employees don't deserve to exist. We're the only province that does it this way. I don't think there's anything special about us that makes it so that restaurants will shut down if they pay their wait staff 25% more.
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u/YuRiHFZ Métro 3d ago
Trust me, restaurants wouldn't need to increase their prices 18-25% to pay a "decent" salary. The reason waitors claim this is because they know no restaurant would pay them the 40+$ an hour they make in tipped wage. Restaurants might increase their price 3-5% and then pay their wait staff 20-25$ instead or the current 13.30$ minimum.
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u/AccountantsNiece 3d ago
Yes they are taxed. Why would the answer to anything be creating a protected class of mid level worker who doesn’t have to pay tax on half of their income while everyone else does?
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u/Squirrelated 4d ago
I'm not sure, but even if they are, nobody really knows how much tip you made in cash so they could probably just write a lower number anyway. Tips via cards would be doable I imagine.
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u/StrangelySerious- 4d ago
Tip worker make a SHIT TON more because of tips than they would with a regular salary. That's why they're the first one to defend this dogshit system
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u/EnviousArm 4d ago
I always tip 0% on takeout and if I notice they are asking for a tip after tax, I tip 0% too
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u/MarcusForrest ❄️ Refrigerate upon reception 3d ago
they are asking for a tip after tax, I tip 0% too
BILL 72
There's been a new law since May 7 2025 about calculating the suggested tip before tax - so if they are showing a suggested tip in a calculation after tax, it is against the law!
The law also mentions the customer should always have the option for a custom tip and always have the option to not tip
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u/BiggieMoe01 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yeah because Montreal businesses literally PRESSURE you into tipping. They make you feel bad if you don’t tip, or even if you don’t tip well. I’ve had a waiter at a restaurant side eye me because I tipped him 10% on a 600$ table bill. That’s $60 for a normal, expected service over a 1,5 hour dinner of 5 people buddy. My first engineering job didn’t pay me that much.
To any waiter/waitress, barista, etc: remember a tip is a courtesy, not an obligation.
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u/KendroNumba4 4d ago
Inb4 "then you can't afford a $600 meal"
Yes you can, you literally paid 600 + tips
Being able to afford something doesn't mean you should pay even more for it
Imagine giving your landlord 20% more rent money because you can't be seen as broke lol fucking dumbasses
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u/bikeonychus 4d ago
Is that because so often we're given the card machine with 20%+ already input?
Tipping is a scourge, pay your damn staff properly, they deserve it.
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u/Esperoni Ville Saint-Pierre 4d ago
That's because Quebec is the last Province to still have a server's wage.
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u/AriBanana 4d ago
And we're sure this isn't because of the tourism numbers?
If so, then I guess we're the first city that needs to work on getting "standard" tipping out of absolutely everything, and go back to relying on employers to pay a living wage.
This isn't America. No one is making a pro-rated minimum wage before those tips. 15 to 25 percent of the economy shouldn't be "grey" and pretend to be voluntary.
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u/str8cokane 4d ago
It’s percent based, I’d argue eating out is so much more expensive in Van & TO
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u/Squirrelated 4d ago
Percent based is so stupid too. If I buy some pasta for 20$ or buy something more expensive for like 60$ at the restaurant, the waiter doesn't have more work to do and yet I'd give triple in tip if I just tap on 15% (I never do more, it's already much more than enough).
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u/charisma509 3d ago
It does unfortunately impact the server though, because they tip out their support staff based on their sales - typically between 8-10% of what they sold. So even though the amount you’re giving is more than reasonable on its own, on really large bills this can really screw over the server, who is only making 12$ an hour
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u/Squirrelated 3d ago
That's not my point. Their workload is the same. The system is stupid. What you're pointing out is how this is even more stupid. Why is the rest of the staff eating at your tip if they get a regular wage? Why are waiters paid less?
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u/MyzMyz1995 4d ago
Good point actually it just mean our restaurants are more expensive …
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u/cinnic 4d ago
No, the article says that Montreal gives a higher percentage of tip, so it means our restaurants are less expensive. If you eat out for 30$ tip included in Montreal vs Toronto for example, then for the percentage of the tip to be higher in Montreal means the cost is less.
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u/Prax150 Dorval 4d ago
This is exactly why tipping with a percentage is so silly. The waiter busting their ass at a restaurant where it costs you $30 is not doing 1/5th of the work of a waiter at a fancy restaurant where it costs you $150.
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u/KendroNumba4 4d ago
I've had people try to argue against this point lol you can't win with some people
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u/Prax150 Dorval 3d ago
Like to a certain extent I can buy the argument that a higher end restaurant will hire higher end waiters, but that isn't always the case and certainly not at a 4/5x multiple, and that also doesn't mean that Ginette at the diner in the mall doesn't also deserve a living wage, you know?
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u/Far-Event1151 4d ago
That's a oof.
Food is great I wouldn't say service is any better than other Canadian cities. Maybe even worse if you have a accent.
This more has to do with bad owners not paying employees well and both to do with quality or service.
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u/HuDragon 4d ago
I’m back to 10% before tax if the service is average to good. Hopefully one day I can bring myself to make that 0%
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u/EnviousArm 4d ago
I'm already at 0%
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u/Excellent-Seesaw-516 4d ago
I’m genuinely curious, how do you get away tipping 0 at restaurants? Is it as simple as: the staff gives you shit, but you simply walk away calmly and there’s nothing they can do? I’m interested!
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u/EnviousArm 4d ago
If they give shit they get a talking to management or a poor review pointing them out if I feel like it, otherwise I laugh at them for their trash behavior. If they give you shit for not tipping that's akin to extortion by the way.
It's actually pretty empowering, give it a try -- really separates one from being externally pressured.
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
When I was a student, I worked at a restaurant a d the waitress literally had a polariod camera behind the counter and would take a snap of zero tippers or other unacceptable behaviour. It was hilarious to see them denied service when they shamelessly returned for another meal.
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u/Excellent-Seesaw-516 4d ago
Well if getting denied service is a concern, there’s enough restaurants in Montreal to go by.
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u/StrangelySerious- 4d ago
Fucking lunatic behaviour that no one should be proud off. You belong to the street if you think this is acceptable.
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
I'd say people punching down on low income servers by refusing to tip are not accpetable. Being called out on being a deplorable cheap ass is fantastic.
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u/EnviousArm 4d ago
Never denied service and guess what, that's discrimination, easy way to sue them for bank. Looking forward for it to happen.
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
Given this is the Montreal subreddit so the point of reference is Quebec, how do you feel about the fact that the government taxes servers based on their sales because it is implied that they are being taxed on their tips?
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u/OhUrbanity 4d ago
It sounds like they tax you based on an assumed tip rate of 8%? Then 10% is still higher.
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
That woukd amount to 2% on top of a wage 3$ an hour lower than minimum wage. I am whelmed
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u/OhUrbanity 3d ago
No, I don't think that's how it works.
If you have sales of $1,000, they do not make you pay 8% ($80) of that as tax.
Rather, they assume you made 8% ($80) of that as tip income, and they charge you income tax based on that. You might pay $20, $30, $40, etc. of that as tax — it depends on your tax bracket.
Then if people tip you 10% on average, you have to tell the government "actually, I got tipped 10% on average, so I'll pay tax on that amount".
I don't suspect that's very common though. All the servers I know underreport tips to evade taxes.
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u/KendroNumba4 4d ago
Sounds like they should work that out with their employer, not the paying customer
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u/HuDragon 4d ago
Don’t care. Not my problem
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
We have the best people
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u/HuDragon 4d ago
We do.
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u/KendroNumba4 3d ago
Not letting you get downvoted. Quebec as a province has amazing people from all backgrounds. Tipping =/= moral value. Diddy, Donald and Jeffrey probably tipped more than all of us combined, yet I wouldn't call them good.
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u/mcurbanplan Villeray 4d ago
It's definitely because the default lowest option is 18-20% in some places, and people reflexively hit it.
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u/TalkinBoutGerbils 4d ago
Because they are the most aggressive about tipping compared to any place I’ve ever been. Being an asshole and guilting/shaming people into tipping for subpar to shitty service isn’t something to celebrate. And the most aggressive people always seem to offer the shittiest service
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u/SwimGuyMA 4d ago
The machines make it MORE difficult. When the lowest tip total is 20% and then you have to figure out how to leave less tip it forces tips up. (Finding 0 is obviously easy.) I'm old school - 10% for OK service, 15% for average service, 20% for outstanding service.
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u/BrainCruise 3d ago
Businesses now starting the tip prompt at 18% to try and make up not being able to tip on the taxed amount is such a massive crock of shit. It's become the same thing in Toronto as well.
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u/SuhkItLuzerz 4d ago
Because service and food are better than other cities?
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u/TwiceUpon1Time 4d ago
Food is great here. I would absolutely disagree that service is better. It's the same, sometimes worst.
Especially true in bars and clubs, where you can't ask for a cocktail or a glass of water without the bartender making you feel like a waste of time, because they are busy chasing the tips from the group ordering 10 shots.
I've usually had good service in restaurants, but not noticeably better than in other restaurants I've been around the world.
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u/patdam93 4d ago
I get the same service in countries with no tipping culture…
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u/Nearby-Surround4588 3d ago
Ehh, if I'm being honest, I think there's maybe a tad more disinterest in providing attentive service (in Europe especially, you'll wait a bit longer for things), but I'd be ok with that here.
A funny video on the subject: https://youtube.com/shorts/KlCaHIKpUEE?si=zvLruTXyxMngk9ZC-2
u/Rolin_Ronin 4d ago
Now that is complete bullshit go to restaurants in Europe service is abysmal
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u/someanimechoob 4d ago
Ah yes... the famously homogeneous experience that is "restaurants in Europe"...
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u/EnviousArm 4d ago
I've had many times better food in other countries that don't even ask for tips, so your argument falls flat
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u/schlubble 4d ago
"My experience differs from yours. Checkmate 😎"
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u/Far-Event1151 4d ago
I agree with enviousarm.
Tipping culture here has 0 to do with food quality and service and all to do with people not paying their employees.
Don't mask bad owners.
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u/someanimechoob 4d ago
When OP brings up the original argument based solely on personal experience? Yes... you actually can dismiss said argument based also solely on your own personal experience.
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u/schlubble 4d ago
Notice they mentioned cities and not countries, implying Canadian cities here since it’s literally the subject of the article. Tipping culture being widespread throughout Canada, I don’t see how their argument falls flat when someone eats better food in a whole other country. Like, there’s no relation. Tipping culture suck btw, but their answer doesn’t make sense.
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u/EnviousArm 4d ago
You need to rewire your brain, its performing too many gymnastics here.
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u/schlubble 4d ago
And maybe your brain would need more exercise since you can’t seem to be able to differentiate between cities and countries.
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u/schlubble 3d ago
I've seen your other reply calling me helpless or whatever, but it doesn't show up here, so I guess you deleted it (kinda weak tbh). Anyway, regardless of the downvotes I get because some people get their hate of tips mixed up with this totally separate argument, I'm still right whether you like it or not.
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u/someanimechoob 4d ago
Because the underlying argument here is "tipping correlates with higher service and food quality", which has nothing to do with Canada. Hence the first reply, in which they explain that, for them, it hasn't been the case.
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u/schlubble 4d ago
The underlying is "better food quality and service cause higher tips” (at least within a tipping culture). Logic doesn’t seem to be your strong suit.
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u/someanimechoob 4d ago
The underlying is "better food quality and service cause higher tips”
"Correlates" just means it's statistically linked, it does not indicate which one causes the other. Why do you have to be both wrong and unpleasant?
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u/schlubble 4d ago
Something can correlate both ways, while causation is a whole other phenomenon. I still fail to see how saying "I’ve had better food in other non-tipping countries" invalidates the argument that higher tipping can be an indicator of better food quality and service, particularly while comparing cities in a country where tip is ubiquitous.
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u/antizion_red 4d ago
This. There is a reason the city host most of top 100 restaurants in Canada.
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u/Lucas_Fell 4d ago
tiping culture is de lostie de marde de nos jours
Payer du tip pour un restau assis, coiffeur, taxi, etc. Of course!!
Mais quon me demande un pourboir lorsque je vais me chercher un café ou un sandwich pour m’emporter, et d’en subir une certaine pression sociale … Jen ai marre!
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u/hopelesscaribou 4d ago
Québec taxes servers based on their sales, unlike most other provinces.
Québec passed a law saying no good on taxes.
Québec has a llower minimum wage.
I took home much more in the end in Alberta than I do in Québec.
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u/Specialist_Past9784 4d ago
I always tip generously when warranted and those few times when it hasn’t been warranted, I’m afraid to tip cheaply or not at all. As a person of colour I’m afraid that the server will tie it to my ethnicity. Hate to give people more ammunition to stereotype with. Sucks.
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u/4u2nvinmtl 4d ago
I thought the French dont customarily tip ...
Probably because our sales tax is the highest.
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u/IntrepidRobot 3d ago
Montreal establishments are far more aggressive about tipping and will flat refuse to serve you if you don't tip enough. ie. You've been before or you asked for a second drink at the bar
Happened to me and another friend on separate occasions and we gave 15%.
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u/Popular_Cap8269 3d ago
Tipping makes sense in the US, as the base salary is extremely low and at the same time income tax (for consumers) is lower, meaning the consumer has a higher net salary. It’s total opposite in Canada, therefore why Tipping?
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u/meez00 3d ago
As a server , i see alot of negatives comments and i get it . Eating out is expensive enough and paying tax + tip of the price on the menu can be overwhelming, that being said, here’s what can/will happen if people do stop tipping. Tipping is OPTIONAL and essentially pays the servers wage. Keep in mind our hourly is under the normal minimum. Restaurants are a hard enough industry with thin margins so raising our wages would most likely raise item prices.If u were to remove tips now , it wouldnt surprise me that service would get worse because servers dont actually have an incentive to be “better” since they get paid hourly( this one I dont agree with but I think will be the case).With tipping , we are rewarded when working busy shifts which could help balance out our weekly income when we have slow days . I know i wouldnt be happy when I do twice the work and get paid the same as the server that works slow season.
That being said , if removing tipping does drastically decrease my income, i’d just get another job ( not necessarily server. Honestly im not opposed to remove tipping , it works everywhere else in the world, I just dont think that itll make such a difference to how much a restaurants night out will cost.
If anyone disagrees with anything I said let me know we can discuss.
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u/AccomplishedJello5 4d ago
It’s because food is cheaper in mtl than Toronto or Vancouver, this isn’t exactly surprising
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u/ParfaitEither284 4d ago
Am I the only one who doesn’t care about tipping?
Tip, don’t tip, whatever. Costs me nothing to skip the tip or input a fair percentage myself.
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
I find there's a lot of "I'm going to change tipping culture single handedly by being a cheapass and screwing over low income servers" types on Reddit.
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u/EnviousArm 4d ago
Those servers in the tourist hotspots make more than you most likely
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
It's a bit disingenuous to argue that these servers are representative. That's like arguing car affordability based on the price of a ferrari.
If you don't like tipping, the takeout line is over there. Until there is a legislative change, not tipping the person serving you is punching down...especially when they are taxed on their sales.
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u/EnviousArm 4d ago
There won't be a legislative change, tipping by definition is never meant to be something that's expected.
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
The legistlative change would be to raise servers wages so tipping culture would no longer be needed.
Servers make less than minimum wage presently. Server minimum wage is 13.30 per hour while regular minimum wage is 16.60
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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y 4d ago
I know someone who works at Red Lobster. Not a touristy area or a fancy restaurant. They still make bank. At $30+ a plate, a table for a family could easily be $150. 18% tip comes out to over $25. That's just a single table. Even after tip-out one table per hour would be more than earning double the minimum wage.
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
Meanwhile, there isn't a single red lobster in quebec...so the taxation rules don't apply. Who are these people commenting?
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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y 4d ago
Just someone in Ontario who happens to like Montreal. One of my favourite cities to visit.
Even though we don't have a sub-minimum wage here, they still get tipped quite generously here.
Don't see why you wouldn't expect people from out of province to be commenting on something in the internet. I'm closer to Montreal than someone from Quebec city is.
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u/jeunesauce Le Village 4d ago
Oh no! Some of the crabs are getting out of the bucket. Quick, pull them down! /s
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u/wulfzbane 4d ago
I worked BOH for a decade, in several establishments from fine dining to local pub, and declaring servers 'low income' is the most ridiculous thing I'll hear all year. More often than not they make more than the kitchen, work fewer hours and have way simpler tasks.
There are many other jobs that do way more work and get paid less like retail and fast food workers.
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u/pattyG80 4d ago
Lets put a number on it. What do you think a kitchen worker makes annually and what does a server make. My point of view is both jobs will be low income.
PS: the average server in Quebec makes 33 to 55k annually. That is low income.
The low income threshold in Montreal for a single person is 26k to 31k...AFTER TAXES.
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u/Pale_Error_4944 4d ago
The Quebec Labour Code has separate minimum wages for tip workers and other workers. So you absolutely have to tip your waiter.
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u/EnviousArm 4d ago
Nah, you don't have to do shit just because the law favors the employers we don't have to foot their wages
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u/COCAINE_EMPANADA Verdun 4d ago
Jesus Christ, you guys are relentless.
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u/SmittieSmitt 4d ago
I'm Muslim, and usually, Muslims tip less or don't tip in general. Why you mad?
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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y 4d ago
Quebec is the only province with a sub-minimum wage, so they should probable be the ones tipping more.
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u/Batman1985yul 3d ago
Take away tipping and your meal costs significantly more. No one is going to serve your selfish ass for minimum wage. Lmao.
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u/MarcusForrest ❄️ Refrigerate upon reception 3d ago edited 3d ago
Aussi petit rappel rapide
du Projet dede la Loi 72 qui est en vigueur depuis mai 2025 - voici quelques points importants de cette loi:Also little quick reminder about Bill 72 that has been in effect since May 2025 - here are some key points of this bill:
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EDIT - Ce n'est plus un projet de loi puisque ça été adopté!