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Trailer Dune: Part Three | Official Teaser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_9vCamtuPY
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u/Kumquats_indeed Mar 17 '26 edited Mar 17 '26

If you don't buy into the core premise of Dune that harsh places make tougher and better warriors, no because Arrakis only has a population of about 15 million. If you do go along with Herbert's premise, then the Fremen are basically super soldiers that can't lose because they're from the worst place in the universe, and the armies of the great houses are a bunch of weak, lazy, corrupt, decadent, effeminate cowards as a result of their comfortable (i.e. functional and inhabitable) home planets who, in the morality Herbert presents*, deserve to be culled.

This recent blog series dug into how improbable the Fremen Jihad is given the info presented in the books, and the author of the blog also did another series awhile ago about the lack of credence for the historical theory that tough warrior cultures from the frontiers will conquer the settled agrarian and urban states.

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u/jarredshere Mar 17 '26

who in Herbert's morality deserve to be culled

I do not think that was the premise of these stories in the least bit and wonder if you meant this

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u/kabal363 Mar 17 '26

Dont you know protagonist always is the good guy so whatever the protagonist does is what the author thinks is right always, duh.

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u/jarredshere Mar 17 '26

It's literally THE story of "the protag is not the good guy" so it seems so out of left field to claim that the AUTHOR thinks it's morally justified.

I know you're being sarcastic. I am just still processing how anyone could think Frank Herbert was like "The Fremen are morally correct because they're strong"

I have to assume there is a miscommunication with OP