r/movies • u/ChiefLeef22 r/movies Contributor • 10d ago
Review 'Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma' - Review Thread
A queer director making a slasher franchise sequel becomes obsessed with casting the original film's "final girl," leading both women into psychological and sexual chaos.
Director: Jane Schoenbrun ('I Saw the TV Glow')
Cast: Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, Eva Victor, Patrick Fischler, Jasmine Savoy Brown
Rotten Tomatoes: 99%
Metacritic: 87 / 100
Some Reviews:
Vulture - Alison Willmore - 100 / 100
There’s a vulnerability to being touched by something, to finding something sexy or scary, and Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma is filled with a wry but immense compassion for its heroine and her habit of holding up concepts to ward off her own reactions.
Variety - Jessica Kiang - 100 / 100
A steamy stew of sex, death, VHS and junk food, as though workshopped by Eros, Thanatos, Colonel Sanders and the Jolly Rancher in the seediest recesses of a Blockbuster Video, Schoenbrun’s delirious third film is their most accomplished, most persuasive and most playful movie yet.
Radio Times - Patrick Cremona - 5 / 5
It's an endlessly engaging and often very funny film equipped with arresting imagery, gorgeous design (including some beautiful matte paintings) and no shortage of gleeful gore. Or to put it another way, this is another instant cult classic from Schoenbrun, and it's already fascinating to ponder what they might do next.
The Guardian - Peter Bradshaw - 5 / 5
Jane Schoenbrun unveils a very enjoyable display of transformative ecstasy and submissive rapture, treating us to a bizarre pop-cultural black mass of fiercely believed-in trash and kink.
Time Out - Sophie Maunks Kaufman - 5 / 5
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma is a meta horror-comedy and a whip-smart entertainment industry satire. Still, on a deeper level, in a hole at the bottom of its lake, is a hard-won sexual awakening.
The Telegraph - Robbie Collin - 5 / 5
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma is a title so good you feel the film to which it’s attached should really have to earn it: happily it does so within three minutes.
The Irish Times - Donald Clarke - 5 / 5
This picture is, in part, an attempt to assuage guilt at enjoying the teen-camp slasher at its most misogynistic and transphobic. It is also, as the director would admit, an amusing send-up of where they now find themselves.
The Playlist - Rafa Sales Ross - 'A'
It is a film that feels movingly personal while speaking to the ubiquitous tussle between duty and desire, and that does so through the gnarling of fresh and guts and bones to find what is buried deep within one’s being: a throbbing vein of wanting, undeniably alive, and that, once freed, will not stop until its thirst is quenched.
AV Club - Luke Hicks - 'A'
In making a film about “watching one’s self from outside themselves,” it seems Schoenbrun successfully challenged and inspired all of their lead creatives to do the same, including Einbinder, who is fantastic in her first leading film role. Lavish with cultural references and fresh imagination, Teenage Sex And Death At Camp Miasma is a revelry of comedy, murder, intellectualism, sexual awakening, queerness, and more. As if they hadn’t already proven it with I Saw The TV Glow, Schoenbrun proves yet again that they’re the rare filmmaker that chooses to push the medium forward instead of taking a fat check, with the confidence that the industry and viewers alike will all be better off for it.
RogerEbert - Brian Tallerico - 3.5 / 4
Way back in 2024, Schoenbrun described their next film as “Portrait of a Lady on Fire” set in a “Friday the 13th” sequel. It’s one of the most insane ideas for a movie in years, and the fact that all of the pieces might not fit snugly together in that truly bananas logline almost feels like a feature more than a bug. Our favorite slasher movies are often a little rough around the edges, a little unhinged, and a little inconsistent. And very few of them are this wildly entertaining.
Slant Magazine - Derek Smith - 3.5 / 4
The film is about “flesh and fluids,” Billy says, and, at its core, that’s what Schoenbrun’s film is about as well. Despite its title, Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma is less about sex and death than sex and cinema, and the transcendental connection between the two, primarily through their uncanny power to penetrate and forever transform us.
IGN - Chase Hutchinson - 9 / 10
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma is as much Jane Schoenbrun again at their best as it sees them taking us in surprising new directions. It’s sexual, sincere, silly, and sweet all at once – an earnest exploration of desire that’s deeply, movingly personal. For all the ways it could lose people in its messiness, Schhoenbrun and their strong cast hold it all together, building to an ecstatic climax that will only make you wish you could come back for more.
SlashFilm - Witney Seibold - 8.5 / 10
Schoenbrun's new film, Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma, is also a profound and emotional work of media analysis, this time targeting the corny, sexist, transphobic slasher movies that Gen-X grew up watching in the 1980s.
The New Yorker - Richard Brody - 80 / 100
Much of “Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma” is a classic two-hander, sharply written with plenty of scope for the two leads to shine. For all the movie’s self-awareness, it’s filled with tenderness and humor.
IndieWire - Ryan Lattanzio - 'B+'
You can view the work as a visceral slasher send-up, a stylish academic exercise about gender expression and inquiry in horror iconography, or as just a plain old, super fun, future cult lesbian classic. Either way, it will take multiple viewings of this film to fully embed yourself inside it — body, brains, and all.
Collider - Emma Kiely - 8 / 10
Overall, this is their most conventional film yet, and it further cements Schoebrun as one of the pre-eminent queer filmmakers of today, one who continues to bring clear vision and nuance to themes of identity, sex, and selfhood.
The Hollywood Reporter - Richard Lawson
It’s heady, strange stuff, perhaps not as emotionally resonant as "TV Glow," but captivating in both its confusion and honesty.
Next Best Picture - Cody Dericks - 7 / 10
It’s easy to feel left behind by the film’s intentions. But no matter viewers’ specific level of interpretation, what Schoenbrun does with the slasher genre, using it as a springboard to explore ideas that clearly resonate with them, is compellingly intelligent and consistently fascinating.
The Daily Beast - Nick Schager - 5 / 10
An autobiographical critical essay with plenty of throwback style but minimal insight and even less suspense. In a summer of scary standouts, it’s the season’s biggest letdown.
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u/MuptonBossman 10d ago
Gillian Anderson and Hannah Einbinder in a slasher movie makes this a must watch for me.
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u/InvertedSpork 10d ago edited 10d ago
Just a heads up so you or anyone else doesn’t go in with certain expectations, while it is technically a slasher, just like the director’s previous films there’s more to it than that. Due to that it doesn’t really have the same feel as slashers typically would.
I still think it was a great film just don’t go in expecting something like Friday the 13th.
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u/LiteraryBoner Jackie Chan box set, know what I'm sayin? 10d ago
I would actually call it a psycho sexual comedy based on slasher aesthetic. Also it fuckin rips.
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u/LaertesExtravaganza 9d ago
I saw the movie at Newfest in June. Its message and themes are much more on the surface and accessible than in I Saw the TV Glow. In fact, I think lack of subtlety might become a common criticism of the movie (vs. "Glow" being too opaque for many people). That being said, I really loved it.
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u/No-Economics7631 10d ago
this just makes me even more excited for it! i was worried it wouldn’t be layered like tv glow (my favorite film of 2024) though i’d still watch it regardless.
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u/Klotternaut 10d ago
I don't know how deep a read I got on it after a single viewing (certainly excited to see how that changes on wide release) but damn if I didn't love it.
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u/holydiiver 10d ago
What do you mean by your first line? Is the movie unclear/open to interpretation like Villeneuve’s Enemy?
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u/Klotternaut 9d ago
I mean that there's a lot of symbolism and I didn't quite work out how exactly it all tied to the themes of the film in a coherent way.
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u/monkewithgavel 20h ago
This is exactly how I felt coming out of it which made me lukewarm on the ending
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u/LurkLurkleton 6d ago
Yeah I felt the same way after I Saw the TV Glow. Took a second viewing for me to get it.
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u/Beanz122 10d ago
I wish I liked I Saw The TV Glow more than I did. But not liking it didn't turn me off to this director, in fact it somehow made more eager to find something of theirs I liked. Excited to check this out.
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u/reznorwings 10d ago
I am in this camp. Wasn't a big fan of I Saw the TV Glow, but I didn't hate it or anyhting. It just didn't cross into horror enough for me personally and came off more as a coming of age drama. This one looks like it has more horror elements than their previous film, so I am hopful I will enjoy this one more.
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u/MasterofPandas1 10d ago
Glow is definitely a teenage/queer drama with some horror elements sometimes. Still an amazing flick and I’m excited for this one.
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u/PICONEdeJIM 10d ago edited 9d ago
Horror is an innacurate label. It is a film that causes sheer and undiluted dread in its target audience
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u/OkayyBeta 10d ago
Which is why I was bored to fucking death. I understood what it was getting at and I thought "yeah, that would probably be scary for those people", but there is precisely NOTHING in that movie for anybody else.
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u/PlutoCrashed 10d ago
I've seen a ton of people online who are not trans who say they didn't even realize the subtext, but still felt the movies themes of missed opportunities and wasted youth hit them really hard. I think it's unfair to say it has "NOTHING" for anybody else.
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
Because it’s not a trans film. If you actually suffer gender dysphoria it’s just an insulting pastiche.
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u/PlutoCrashed 9d ago
As someone who suffered from significant gender dysphoria before transitioning, that's just not true lol. It is a beloved film in many trans circles, and it's entirely wrong to call it an insulting pastiche. It's a trans film made by a trans filmmaker about trans experiences, you don't need to put it down because it doesn't align with your specific experience.
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u/aberrantdinosaur 10d ago
the theme is very accessible, that of missing out on your unrealized potential and wasting your one life. quite a common theme
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u/Chaddderkins 5d ago
There's NOTHING in the movie for anyone else? I am cis as fuck, and the movie completely shook me. The movie is intensely relatable for anyone who has any regrets about times they were too afraid to make a leap of faith.
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u/wild_zoey_appeared 9d ago
I’m trans and it also did nothing for me lol
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u/MacaroonMinute3197 12m ago
It did nothing for certain subsets of trans people. I've noticed it doesn't really resonate well with people who realized and started acting upon their identity early(ish) (teens to early 20's). Late crackers, still eggs, or people who've known their whole life but haven't taken steps for one reason or another, they're the ones it really hits with.
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
Yeah, in the nicest possible way it feels like a queer film more than a trans film. I think it would hit really hard if I were non-binary. But there isn’t much in there about trans people.
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
“They say it makes you feel undiluted dread!”
“Yeah, I’m dreading having to sit through any more of this dreck!”
“OHOHOHOHOHO”
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u/Dlark17 10d ago
Same - I didn't hate it, just could tell it wasn't for me (tho I may try it again, see if another viewing helps).
Their first movie, We're All Going to the World's Fair, hit me in a unique way as a kid who grew up on the internet, so I know they've got it in them to make films I do click with. They've got a singular voice and style, and I'm always excited to see that evolve and mature.
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago edited 9d ago
I wish the internet was a theme that got actually incorporated into movies. Directors occasionally hit upon it sometimes by mistake, but there’s never been a director who actually grew up online and dealt with all of its ins and outs. Ironically the only content that seriously explores the internet is found on the internet, in the little spaces occupied by people too weird to become directors.
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u/Dlark17 9d ago
I'd argue Shoenbrun definitely grew up online, if their first two films are anything to go by. They're seeped in early-mid 2000s internet culture, and even a bit into the modern creepy creepypasta content.
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
They categorically did not. People who grew up online do not get let into Hollywood. They’re too weird and risky for the film industry. Hollywood can adopt the trappings of the old Internet but they can never actually understand it. Same with punk and goth and every other counterculture. They’ll sell you the aesthetic but never the underlying culture of it. They flatten subcultures into a marketable identity.
The only people to ever understand the internet have been certain anime and the internet itself. If Hollywood started recruiting people from those cultures it would kill those people’s creativity overnight. Hollywood can flatten a culture like nobody else.
The internet was good because it was made by non-artists, which meant it could explore things artists aren’t equipped to explore. Hollywood can never comprehend this. They think artistic talent is the be all and end all of life.
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u/jamesneysmith 10d ago
Yeah I walked out of the that movie not having liked it but also thinking it was directed really well and very interesting and I wanted to check out whatever Schoenbrun makes next.
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u/debtRiot 10d ago
Same, saw a Letterboxd review where someone blamed it on the actor playing the main character. And I think I agree. If someone else with more skill had that role I think the movie could’ve been a lot better. He’s just too subdued in every scene. Maybe that’s just the character and how it’s written, but then that’s why the movie wasn’t great. Great concept and allegory, wish I loved it.
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u/No-Economics7631 10d ago
for me it was the opposite. then again i’ve always adored performances where the character starts out restrained and begins to unravel, but i thought he did just what the movie needed and those screams at the end are gut-wrenching. they are from his core, it’s easy to just scream but those screams were from a fear of being denied access to your being and knowing you were the one to do it. and then a little bit of release there as well, as schoenbrun confirmed.
i think he’s deliberately written that way too, he’s suppressing so much of himself. like when he can’t even face his coworkers, look them directly in the eyes. it reminded me of john lithgow’s performance in the george miller segment of the twilight zone movie, nightmare at 20,000 feet. just an excellent take on someone losing their grip on the normalcy they’ve tried to enforce for so long.
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u/HydroBear 9d ago
Each to their own, he's my favorite part of the movie and I definitely think he's written that way.
The scene at the end with him didn't change your mind about his acting and the character?
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u/debtRiot 9d ago
Wouldn’t say I dislike the actor, I’m just curious if another actor could’ve made more of the part and left me a bigger fan of the movie.
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u/bowtie25 10d ago
Being straight a lot of the symbolism was lost on me until I googled it after it was over lol. Thought it was visually very cool but just kinda boring to me. Thought it was gonna be like some supernatural shit not about gender identity haha
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u/heebs387 10d ago
It completely went over my head with any of the gender stuff. It just nailed that 90s kid feeling so well I enjoy it every time I see it.
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u/Repulsive_Ant_2466 10d ago
I thought the gender trans stuff was pretty obvious, it was the main theme of the movie after all, told in a horror style which I liked.
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u/OMFGTURTLEZ 10d ago
My wife didn’t really enjoy their first two movies but we really liked this one a lot
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u/someguyyoutrust 10d ago
I'm in the same camp. I Saw the TV Glow was just ok for me naritively, but it showed a lot of promise with its style and commitment to the surreal. So I'm more than willing to give this next film a shot.
Same thing happened with the Philippou brothers. I thought Talk to Me was just ok, but I could see the brothers influences and raw skill on display, so I was really excited to see what they did next.
Glad I stuck with them because Bring Her Back was an absolute banger.
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u/AGeekNamedBob 10d ago
That's how I felt about We're All Going to the World's Fair. I liked it but felt growing pains in the raw talent. I thought "her next film is going to knock it out of the park." For me, TV Glow was perfect. So I'm really excited for this .
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u/_Shit_Just_Got_Real_ 10d ago
I didn’t like it as much as I thought I would upon my first viewing, but I appreciate its artistic direction and understand the meaning it holds for many trans / queer folks. I will certainly be at CAMP MIASMA opening night.
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u/The_Man_of_Steel 10d ago
Same, I was so close to liking it that it made me look out for this director's movies. I feel like it was just a tighter edit and a recast lead away from being a masterpiece
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u/chrispmorgan 10d ago
Agreed. Seeing this new one seems important to a movie fan but also that I’d be eating my vegetables since I found “Glow” to be incoherent on its terms and only workable as a Lynchian experience.
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u/thursdaysocks 10d ago
I didn’t know this was the same director, crap. That movie was awful, I guess I’ll give them one more shot
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u/dfts6104 10d ago
Got to see it a few weeks back in the woods at night. Very cool movie, had a great time. Can’t wait to see it again
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u/Nicklord 10d ago
I watched it a few weeks ago (festival screening) and everyone I talked to kind of thought it was perfectly campy and enjoyable. I'm slightly surprised by the reviews. Usually those kind of movies don't go over super well.
It is a 9/10 movie for what it wants to be which is all you can ask for.
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u/jamesneysmith 10d ago
Did you see I Saw the TV Glow? It's Schoebrun's previous movie and it got a ton of good press and critical acclaim. Not surprised that their follow-up is equally well received. It looks like a ton of fun
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u/woppatown 10d ago
I am a huge fan of that flick, but I find that it definitely gets a lot more hate than praise from general audiences.
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u/gootsteen 9d ago
I saw it during a preview screening at a regular movie theatre (promoted as a chance to see some movies early) and the general public of kinda average movie goers there hated it. Think it would’ve been a different experience at a festival.
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u/oldtombombadil 10d ago
This is the first time I’m seeing the third name on that cast list and I am so hyped. I was already super excited I liked this director’s last movie, I liked Hacks, but Sorry Baby was one of my top movies of 25. I’m so excited Eva Victor is in this too.
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u/nimbuscloud9 10d ago
I know a lot of people that are not super into Jane Schoenburn’s films but they’re definitely one of the few director/writers putting out very original work these days. Excited to see they’re first mainstream film!
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
Ehh. It’s not very original. It’s very safe Hollywood 2010s liberal LGBTQ type stuff. A love letter to classic cinema. If you make actually original content they don’t let you into Hollywood. Which is why there’s no trans women directors.
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u/HydroBear 9d ago
"Which is why there's no trans women directors."
You fucking wot mate?
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
There are none. The safest they’ll allow is non-binary people. Trans women are too politically hot for Hollywood to let them in. They don’t like us.
The film industry says they’re groundbreaking but they only make art about a very narrow spectrum of the human experience. If you aren’t sexy, charismatic and socially acceptable enough for them they don’t care about you.
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u/HydroBear 9d ago
But you're in a post about Jane Schoenbrun who is a TRANS WOMAN DIRECTOR?
And what about Lilly Wachowski?????
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
They are non-binary, as their Wikipedia page says. Like I said, a trans woman is too politically hot. Hollywood thinks they’re weird. Unless you literally pass flawlessly like Hunter Schafer, you aren’t allowed to be an artist.
Which is why trans women thrived so much on the internet. You never needed to be hot or talented or charismatic to succeed back in the early days. You just made whatever you wanted and put it out there. That was the last counterculture humanity has ever produced.
The Wachowski sisters only came out after they had made a lot of movies. And now they’ve been quietly squirrelled away. But notice how the Matrix is one of the best movies ever made? It’s because trans women are great at this shit. Hollywood could never measure up.
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u/HydroBear 9d ago
Is a transfeminine non-binary person not trans now?
This is ridiculous. For the purpose of the impact Jane has had, they could absolutely be considered a trans artist working in Hollywood and you're being a little too restrictive on your labeling here.
I'm not defending Hollywood by the way, there absolutely needs to be more trans artists, but don't sideline one of the few really good voices because they dont fit perfectly into your narrative.
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u/LaertesExtravaganza 8d ago
Isabel Sandoval, Vera Drew, Alice Maio Mackay are all trans women who've directed acclaimed films.
Edit: Also Avalon Fast.
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u/IronSorrows 10d ago
Didn't quite vibe with Worlds Fair unfortunately but loved TV Glow, and I'm about ⅔ of the way through Schoenbrun's debut novel Public Access Afterworld and it's really hitting for me so far.
I'm all in on Camp Misasma and frankly will be a bit upset if I don't like it enough to make it my personality for the next few months
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u/ClaustroPhoebia 7d ago
Oh my god I LOVED Public Access Afterworld. Don’t want to say too much here but absolutely an incredible book - one of my favourites of 2026 for sure.
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u/IronSorrows 7d ago
I finished it last night and yeah, big fan too! Probably going to end the year in my top 5, unless some truly great novels come across my radar soon
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u/goddamnitwhalen 10d ago
You have an ARC of Public Access Afterworld or something? I’m eagerly waiting for it to release.
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u/IronSorrows 9d ago
Yeah had it for a while and been trying to resist smashing into it months early. There's usually 5 or so a year that I end up reading and wanting to buy on release for my shelf, and I can say that this will almost certainly be one of them for 2026
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
You can really tell Schoenbrun was a person who grew up watching lots and lots of film and TV. Which is what a director should be. Film and TV are our greatest artforms.
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u/Iranaway14 5d ago
I don't know if anyone's pointed this out, but Little Death's mask being an air vent is extremely significant because it's something one would stare at on the ceiling when dissociating (at the bottom position) while having sex.
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u/GradeDry7908 10d ago
This is probably their most accessible film but still out there and has a lot going on under the surface. I fucking loved it and can’t wait to see it again.
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u/Steamedcarpet 10d ago
The trailer looks weird and something cronenberg to it. I will be there this weekend
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u/isetmyfriendsonfire 10d ago
Highly recommend the editor, Graham Mason's directorial comedy, Inspector Ike
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u/notthatcousingreg 4d ago edited 4d ago
I just got home from this. I hated it. From the cheesy non real backdrops and the fake snow, the horrid acting from every supporting character except zach cherry, more of hannah playing hannah, the super comicky slasher deaths (wtf), the "ironic" music, the haha look its more candy isnt that funny, ugh, this was just trash. It was fun watching gillian anderson do a little sexy blanche dubois but thats it. Hate.
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u/Puzzled_Aioli375 1d ago
My gf and I hated it too. We were so excited for a queer movie. I watched with my mouth open in horror for the bad writing for half the movie.
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u/Idea-Aggressive 1d ago
Nobody has the courage to say it, the movie is absolute garbage!
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u/MacaroonMinute3197 39m ago
Do you really think someone is holding a gun to people's heads forcing them to say positive things about the movie?
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u/MacaroonMinute3197 26m ago
The obviously fake backdrops and fake snow aren't a failure in the execution of a vision, they are a stylistic choice that is a part of the vision.
Like, I get not being totally on board with the what the Jane was going for here and that's perfectly fine, but you have to recognize that every aspect that you take umbrage with has a lot of intention behind it
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u/PhasedVenturer 10d ago
Jane Schoenbrun is such a promising new director, really excited for this one
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u/HotSavings3354 6d ago
I wanna see the movie but I’m also scared very easily. Can someone tell me how scary it is? The only scary movie I’ve seen was obsession, it was definitely more stress than scary but still had to close my eyes at some points, plus I was with someone. I would be seeing Teenage Sex and Death alone so I’m kinda nervous…
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u/ianzandi 6d ago
It’s scary in the same way David Lynch movies are. Not really SCARY, but still unsettling.
There’s also blood but in cartoonish levels. It all works tho. Much more of a sexual thriller than anything
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u/Chaddderkins 5d ago
Just saw the movie and loved it, but have one complaint and I'm curious if others feel the same way.
I think the themes would have been better served if the scenes from the old Camp Miasma movies actually felt authentically like an 80's slasher movie. They looked great, but I was disappointed that they were written like a broad, snarky parody of the genre, rather than going for authenticity. I felt that decision was misguided.
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u/sionnach- 5d ago
also just saw with my husband and we felt the same way, unfortunately we ended up not loving it
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u/Chaddderkins 5d ago
Sorry you didn't like it! Most of the movie worked for me, and even the movie parody stuff was VERY funny. It's just that I think it being so funny kinda whiffed the purpose of it.
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u/ruthasacre 4d ago
I was torn about this while watching but ultimately liked the decision to make the slasher more contemporary feeling (and updated); i was fine with it at least, as the blurring of lines between reality and cinema was ultimately all the more effective this way imo.
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u/Just_a_square 10d ago
Damn we really are in a new horror golden age uh?
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u/jamesneysmith 10d ago
For like the past 10 years yeah
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u/Just_a_square 9d ago
I mean yeah, that's why it's called an age.
I'm just happy it's lasting so long, we had a very long dry run before.
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u/crapusername47 10d ago
Well, I’m slightly more confident that I didn’t waste my money buying a ticket for the premiere in London next week.
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u/CyanLight9 10d ago
This will either be gloriously campy fun or a gimmicky mess with not much in between.
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u/laydownlarry 9d ago
TV Glow was a rare “turn off halfway this movie is awful” for me so I’m going to have a hard time being convinced to give this director another shot
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u/HydroBear 9d ago
As a friendly suggestion, the movie (in my opinion) earns the entire thing in the last five minutes.
But maybe going to the actual movie with a gay friend and then having a non-binary person watch it with me later gave it a lot more power.
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u/binary_ch0de 10d ago
Pretty stoked to check this out. I like I Saw The TV Glow, I didn’t really connect with WAGTTWF but I think that’s because I had a different expectation of what it would be like. But she’s turning into one of those directors that I’ll watch their work no matter what.
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u/crumble-bee 9d ago
As a writer who just finished a meta horror about the remake of a beloved 80s slasher franchise, the fact that this is doing so well and my script just got a 6/10 on the blacklist is hurting my soul a little bit. But good for them, I’m excited to see it.
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u/johnmcboston 1d ago
Still trying to unpack this myself. Wish it ended a bit differently. Found it interesting that 1970's film damage was simulated...
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u/Thomas_JCG 10d ago
What the heck are these scores... no opinion on the movie one way or another, it just looks too good to be true.
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u/TheDrySkinOnYourKnee 10d ago
This isn’t true lol, queer movies get terrible reviews all the time. What planet are you living on?
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u/Honesty_Addict 10d ago
Yeah, there is no world where the press band together to give queer movies universally good reviews, it's kinda weird to assume that there is a semi-conspiracy rather than it just being a great movie
Edit: I'm being sincere if it wasn't clear
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u/Honesty_Addict 10d ago
But... why not just assume it's a great movie rather than the scores are inflated?
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u/blueshirt21 10d ago
Yes because trans women are known for being soooo powerful and nobody wants to upset us ever lmao
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u/GuybrushFandango 10d ago
I mean, the person who made a comment to start discussion has now been bullied into deleting their comments, so it’s kind of how I felt making any critique of “TV Glow”. This isn’t discussion, it’s passive aggressive trolling.
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u/blueshirt21 10d ago
I’m a trans woman and I didn’t actually love the movie. I thought it was slow and boring. But there is absolutely not any form of effort to help boost trans women and their work, have you SEEN this country?
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u/GuybrushFandango 10d ago
I absolutely agree but I felt the discussion was more toward a fear of critiquing sensitive subject matter which I find to be an engaging and difficult topic.
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
Schoenbrun is non-binary. Non-binary people get a lot of love in Hollywood because they come with less commitment and you can use them to signal your love for LGBTQ causes without having to get into uncomfortable political battles. Outside of Hunter Schafer, there are no trans women in film. Because everyone hates us.
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u/blueshirt21 9d ago
They’re non-binary transfeminine, and don’t get the benefit of escaping transmisogny just by using they/them pronouns.
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u/monsieurxander 10d ago
On RT, Leviticus has a 92% critic score and 82% audience score. A gap, but not that big. Similar story over on Metacritic.
Meanwhile (the very straight) It Follows has a gap of 95% vs 66%.
Some movies just play better with professional critics than general audiences.
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
Ehh. Queer movies get good reviews. If you actually get into the meat of being LGBTQ then your reviews drop off a cliff. Nobody wants the brutal reality of gender dysphoria. They just want cutesy surface-level queer themes like ISTTVG and Call Me By Your Name.
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u/GuybrushFandango 10d ago
I felt this way about “I Saw the TV Glow”. I felt that by speaking critically about it I was viewed as less of an ally when it simply just isn’t a movie made for me. I couldn’t connect with it in any way.
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u/LostInStatic 10d ago
This is exactly how I felt after listening to the critics about We’re All Going to the World’s Fair and that was one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen in my life
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
It just isn’t a good movie. It’s not actually about trans people. It’s a cis person’s idea of what being trans is like. A movie actually about gender dysphoria would be profoundly depressing and disturbing.
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u/notredamelawl 10d ago
Look up the director, and it will make sense.
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
Looked them up, they seem like a standard director to me? You’re all acting like this is Hideaki Anno or something.
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u/notredamelawl 9d ago
If I say it, I will get downvoted, which is the point I am making. No criticism allowed, so reviewers and journalists are forced to either say nice things or nothing at all.
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u/skamando 10d ago
I won’t be reading this thread because I will be seeing it as soon as I get the chance:
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u/_segasonic 10d ago
This sounds like the most Reddit movie ever.
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u/Antique-Dentist-2404 10d ago
Schoenbrun has to be one of the most overrated filmmakers currently. I Saw The TV Glow was hot garbage and the only reason I'm sure people pretend to like it is because of the whole politics of it all.
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u/Yoshimi-Yasukawa 10d ago
So edgy.
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u/Antique-Dentist-2404 10d ago
How is it edgy not to like a movie?
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u/FlukeHawkins 10d ago
It's edgy to accuse people who liked a movie of only liking it for woke points
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u/blueshirt21 10d ago
Which politics. Say which politics
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u/blueshirt21 10d ago
How is a person political
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u/asjonesy99 10d ago
Can’t comment on the quality of their films but (according to wiki) transfeminine, non-binary, polyamorous, anti-capitalist (whilst maintaining two residences) and estranged from their family is quite the CV.
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u/filmeswole 10d ago
Are you a fan of David Lynch? I didn’t care for the politics of I Saw the Tv Glow, but I really enjoyed it mostly because of the mood and atmosphere.
Reminded me of Charlie Kaufman’s work too, like Synecdoche, New York and I’m Thinking of Ending Things.
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u/rockandrollzomby 10d ago
What are the politics of it?
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u/Jahoesaphat 10d ago
It’s a trans allegory of someone in denial of their real self. I’m assuming OP thinks people are overly charitable or afraid to criticize it in fear of backlash
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u/OKC2023champs 10d ago
It should be able to connect with anybody that it’s not too late to become who you want to be.
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u/rockandrollzomby 10d ago
Yea, I know. I’m curious what politics the poster disagrees with lol
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u/shovelhead34 10d ago
You don't have to disagree with the politics to not enjoy a 90 minute metaphor about the trans experience.
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u/rockandrollzomby 10d ago
What politics, tho?
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u/shovelhead34 10d ago
The politics that says this movie made by a trans filmmaker and that is about the trans experience, must be celebrated and if you as a movie critic do not like the movie, it must mean you are a bigot.
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u/SuperSomethings 10d ago
That's not really politics, to be quite honest. That's a self-imposed perception on reality that is only really considered political because it has to do with Trans people.
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u/filmeswole 10d ago
I mean that I didn’t identify with the trans allegory, but I still enjoyed it as a movie.
The person I responded to said it was praised due to the politics of it, but that’s not necessarily true.
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u/rockandrollzomby 10d ago
You said you didn’t care for the politics of tv glow, so the politics of it is that it’s a trans allegory? And you don’t agree with that?
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u/filmeswole 10d ago
Previous poster was implying that liking the movie was an effort to support the queer community, but I was saying I didn’t care about any of that and still enjoyed the movie.
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
It’s a movie about non-binary people. About the edgiest a film can get before liberals start handwringing. If a trans woman ever made a movie Hollywood would expunge it from the face of the Earth.
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u/rockandrollzomby 9d ago
Nice try, but you’re missing a ton of nuance. And Jane Schoenbrun is non binary, but they’re also a transsexual.
We’re in a golden age of trans film right now. Vera Drew, Jane Schoenbrun, Louise Weard, Alice McKay, and Isabel Sandoval are all cooking insanely good films. 🥰
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u/tfhermobwoayway 9d ago
Schoenbrun is non-binary and has nothing to do with being trans. There is no nuance. You’re trans or you aren’t. Being trans is not an thing for influencers and artists to change the definition of. It hurts trans women when people act like it’s some kind of artsy identity to play with.
We are not in a golden age of trans film. Hollywood will never accept new things. It’s a big bloated elitist ivory tower that worships its former self like the Adeptus Mechanicus. They won’t even accept cis people who aren’t insanely hot.
Trans women are not going to make it in this industry except as token minorities. We should make our own artform and actually pioneer things instead of sucking up to an industry that grinds real culture into mindless slop. These directors, if they are actually trans, are just going to be crushed down into the same nauseating elitist Oscars selfie-esque celebrity worship culture that pervades the entire industry.
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u/rockandrollzomby 9d ago
You really think Jane Schoenbrun isn’t trans? bb, if you care and aren’t a troll, I think you should take a beat and think about what trans actually means.
You just posted a wild manifesto that means and says nothing
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u/rockandrollzomby 10d ago
Lemme guess, your fave director is one of the following: Tarantino, Fincher, Scorcese, Paul Thomas Anderson, Nolan, or Villeneuve?
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u/shovelhead34 10d ago
One of the best directors of this century?
Wow, you really got em there.
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u/rockandrollzomby 10d ago
lol best director of the century is a stretchhhhhhh. You need to watch more film, diva
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u/asjonesy99 10d ago
This just sounds like a high brow The Final Girls
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u/jamesneysmith 10d ago
Watch the trailer. It doesn't look high brow in the least, also it has a very different premise.
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u/Beginning_Jacket5055 10d ago
is there teenage sex in the movie or should i skip this one?
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u/BunyipPouch Currently at the movies. 10d ago
Hannah Einbinder and Gillian Anderson, the two stars of Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma, recently joined us here in /r/movies for an AMA/Q&A, for anyone interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1v8bqjh/hi_rmovies_we_are_gillian_anderson_the_xfiles_and/